Anyone know what year this KA Dishwasher is?

[user 3941]

I finally found a KA locally! It doesn't have a window but it's awesome lol.

I'm going Saturday to pick it up. The owner said it works great and has no rust. Just not sure how old it is?

Also are panels easy to find for these? I'd rather have black or stainless (if I could find it). I know some have a different color on the opposite side too...

Any comments and suggestions welcome!

Thanks !

 

[chachp]

I have one very similar.

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I swap my KDS20 with it from time to time.  I think it's a very well performing machine and is fairly quiet.  I think it's mid 90s machine.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I have stainless panels on mine.  I got them on eBay.  I found them under part number B-241677 and they do show up on some of the replacement sites but eBay was a better deal.  I would set up a Followed Search with this number and when they pop up you'll get a note. </span>

 

[yogitunes]

I have a Monterey model too......Hurricane in a box!

there should be color panels behind it, if not, you can make your own....

seriously nice find.....

I was thinking Diamond Plate for the next change out.....

 

[whirlykenmore78]

You've found a good Dishwasher:

These came with reversible color panels but as others here have said you can make them also.
As far as the age I want to say late 80's.
Wk78

 

[user 3941]

Cool thanks! I'm pretty excited. I'll have to install it myself. Can't imagine it's terribly complicated but I've never installed a dishwasher before lol.

Hopefully it will have at least black panels in there. I found a stainless set online for $100. Yikes

 

[user 3941]

Also... Where is this model in the line up in terms of features. Is it a Superba? I don't know how these washers were ranked...like what the difference is between the models?

 

[DADoES]

 
It is a Superba.  The "Monterey" Superba model has black/gray trim across the panel instead of brown/woodgrain as on the "Classic" Superba model.

 

[stevet]

Took the words

right out of my mouth, DADoES! Same machines just different trim! Chach, yours is a later version. Hobart never used the term Whisper Quiet.
The later Monterreys built by Whirlpool using PURE Hobart designs had the thick mastic pads on the whole tank. Top, sides, back and bottom and were much quieter than the original Hobart built units. Then with the 22's they cut down on the mastic and dis the top, back and half the sides with nothing on the bottom.
But great cleaning machines.

 

[user 3941]

Very cool! Guess I'll have to wait until I get it and check the serial to see

I'm very excited actually. I've wanted one of these since I was a teenager. Always thought they were cool.

I do remember my friends parents bought a new one and it seemed old lol. I guess because the basic design didn't change much!

 

[delaneymeegan]

As for color panels of SS.

Just an idea I've used: Home Depot, and the like, typically offer "back splash" panels, that go on the back wall behind a stove and the rangehood above.

These can be cut to size with a tin snips.

Have fun with your new toy.
I hope you have a dolly or a studly toy-boy to help you move it. They've been known to double as yacht anchors when someone doesn't know how to fix them properly.

http://www.homedepot.com/s/stainless%20steel%20backsplash?NCNI-5

 

[user 3941]

Great idea, thanks!!

Haha no studly boy toy. Just my burly lesbian friend lol.

How much do they weigh? My Amana and Frigidaire were super light. I was surprised. I imagine this tank will be more lol.

Easy to move by hand with 2 people?

 

[chachp]

A burly lesbian friend will do the trick.

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">They are heavy but not like a refrigerator.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">As far as the panels are concerned those Home Depot options look good.  I was lucky.  I got the actual KA Panels on eBay for right around $30 or so I think.  There was a seller that seemed to have a stock pile of them because every time one sold another appeared from the same seller.  I think they started the auction in the $20 range and I just lucked out.  If you want to go that option I would still keep on eye on them.  You never know what might pop up.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">That diamond pattern Stainless could be fun depending on the rest of your décor.</span>

 

[askolover]

it's all metal

with a real motor so it's pretty hefty.  Tony and I moved ours but it wasn't too bad just cumbersome...and it's a WP built one (still porcelain on steel though).  Weighs much more than my previous Jetclean does.  Just don't forget to remove the hydrosweep before you turn it on its back or side because the hydrosweep might slip off and chip the porcelain.  It just lifts off, no screws or anything.  I looked at a few that people were selling and didn't know about that and the interiors were chipped badly.   I wrestled ours into the cabinets by myself (tweren't easy tho).  Wear gloves, I found several sharp edges that could have cut easily had we not.

 

[user 3941]

Awesome...thanks for the tips. She has a Honda Pilot so I think it will be just fine in the back of that. The Hydrosweep is the lower wash arm I assume?

 

[johnb300m]

I've always wondered......

How on earth Hobart was able to finalize a design for that Hydrosweep wash arm where it needed NO fasteners to hold it down?

 

[user 3941]

Gravity? Lol The lower arm on my Frigidaire just pops off too.

So will my current connections fit the KA? I was just planning on unhooking my Frigidaire and hooking up the KA.

 

[a440]

Nice dishwasher!

Your current connections should fit fine.

Does anyone remember if the first design of this Hobart's / Whirlpool cross over have 2 rinses? I can't remember.

 

[delaneymeegan]

Joe, you have a Dyke coming to move and install this.

You can't get any better than that. She will know not only the best way to move the dishwasher, but all the best fittings to install this. Sit back and enjoy the help. If you're lucky, she'll re-grout your tub, too.

Some of us aren't lucky enough to have someone of such..... wait a minute. Do you know for a fact she's a lesi? You only want an ACTUAL dyke. Ask for her card if you don't know. I've seen hetero. married mothers of three, try and pass themselves off as a lesi., but that's a NO GO. Insist ONLY on the best.

Frankly, when you said this was the first DW you've installed, I feared you'd have a medium build, hetero guy friend with a 'my-first-tool-box' in hand, try and help you. Like that idiot from the show home improvement (rolling eyes).

But you're safe. We NEED Pictures of the install, Mr. KitchenAid.

http://https//youtu.be/MfYYIDTWMQ0

 

[askolover]

honda pilot

should be fine, I brought mine home in the back of a GMC Jimmy (aka Chevy Blazer) lying on its back with no problems.

 

[rp2813]

If she's 100% L-word

She will know it ALL.

 

She will also be delusional in that regard.  Lucky for you, installing a dishwasher is fairly easy.

 

At 6'/200# and out of shape, I was able to load that same Monterey machine onto my truck by myself.

 

[user 3941]

LMAO

hahaha, you guys crack me up!! lol. She won't be helping me install it. She did show me the faucet she installed (but it leaked), so I don't know if she has good Lesbo-Powers hahahaha.

Of course being gay, I will want to clean and polish it like new before I even attempt to use it myself. I got rid of the Amana that came with my condo because it smelled and had stuff stuck in the sprayer. Yuck!! Like omg. hahaha ;-)

I should be fine installing it. I watched a YouTube video and it is pretty straight forward.

 

[chachp]

I remember my first time....

<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva;">....installing a dishwasher.  It was surprisingly easy.  The connections on your present machine might be a little more upgraded that the older one but those are a very easy fix.  My house had a hardwired installation which was an easy fix.  I put a plug on the end of it and bought an appliance cord for each dishwasher I was going to install so now I can litterally unplug one and plug in another.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva;">My plumbing had already been converted from a copper tubing to the Stainless braided type hose that screws on easily on each end.  That may be the biggest challenge but again could be an easy fix you'll just have to wait and see what your present dishwasher has vs. the Kitchen Aid.  If the KA has the copper tube installation and your house has the connection for the braided hose you can get an adapter to connect the two.  No biggie.  Otherwise you may have to get an elbow type adapter to connect to the inlet valve so you can connect the braided hose.  Either option is very easy.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva;">The drain hose should be a pretty easy connection just be careful it won't kink on you once the hot water starts running through it.  I had that problem once.  It looked like it was well placed but then when it softened with the hot water it kinked at top.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva;">All in all, you will be amazed at how easy it is and you'll be so proud of what you did when you're finished.  Take it from one gay boy to another you likely won't even chip a nail.  Let your burly lesbian friend watch.  She'll coach you with rude comments about how you're holding the screwdriver and how your hand flips up when you bend over.  You know how it goes.  No different than when I call a good lesbian friend of mine Sir (they love that by the way ).</span>

 

[user 3941]

Thanks Chach! I'm sure it will be easy too. Probably be a week or so before I install it so I'll have time to look at all the connections. I think I'll keep my Frigidaire so in case I move I can take the KA with me lol

 

[delaneymeegan]

Just a suggestion. Don't know your set up electrically.
If all there is, is a wire coming out of the wall/floor and going to the dw, you may consider putting a standard 3 prong appliance cord on the dw, and pull that wire into the sink cabinet and put a surface mount outlet into which, the dw would get plugged in. (mount the outlet on the wall, not on the floor of the cabinet)

This is good if you should need a quick emergency disconnect.
Also, if you do move, all you have to do in unplug.

Another thing I've done is to use a standard washing machine hose for the plumbing connection. Some dishwashers use a fill valve that has hose threads on it already. Then all you need is a stand faucet under the sink.
Again, if you move, just disconnect like a washing machine.

 

[user 3941]

Cool thanks for the tips!! The water supply is the SS braided hose and wiring is hard wired. I don't have a plug under the sink :-/

 

[user 3941]

So....

Now I need recommendations for cleaning it. I downloaded a manual and it stated to use "Bon Ami" on the inside of the dishwasher...I have "BarKeeper's Friend" which I think is the same as "Bon Ami". That would be for staining and such on the porcelain enamel. They also mentioned using a water conditioner for a final polish, such as "Calgon". I've never used that before...what do they mean by final polish? Will it make it shiny inside? LOL.

I was going to run a full cycle (after I clean the surfaces) with some STPP and what ever else I should add in..either vinegar, bleach, or just dishwasher detergent?

Any ideas?

 

[chachp]

Drain hose.

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Be careful with the drain hose though.  If I remember correctly SteveT recommends only using the drain hoses that came with the dishwasher or that style and not some of the newer ribbed ones.  Seems I remember him saying those types of hoses somehow impeded the drain function.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">If he sees this maybe he can confirm.</span>

 

[user 3941]

I got it!

She's finally in her new home. It was a lot lighter than I was anticipating and we had no trouble loading/unloading.

The woman I bought it from said she hardly ever used it. It's a bit dirty and dusty but the underside looks brand new. Tub is nearly spotless...just needs some touch up clean up.

There was only 1 panel in it. The almond that reverses to white so I will order the stainless panels for it. I'm taking off all the trim to clean it up real good.

The date on the tub sticker says 2/4/85, so it's built by Hobart! That's what I figured based on other pics I saw.

It has very thin insulation on the outside so I will buy some thicker ones to put over it before I install.

I'm so excited! Can't wait to give her a whirl ;-)

 

[chachp]

Congrats.

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Can't wait to see pictures and hear how your installation went.</span>

 

[user 3941]

So far I've wrapped the outside. I bought some metallic rolled insulation. It was really the perfect thickness. I just had to trim it. Put it right over the yellow fiberglass insulation. I also replaced the cardboard behind the door panels with this stuff too. I only did the top door so far that's why the colors are different lol.

I will cut a piece to go on the back too.