are you sure you are using the 100% of the capacity of your washer?

[kb0nes]

Malcom,

Does you local SQ dealer sell all brands? I'd wager if you look at sales through the SQ lens that they are selling TONS of top loaders now. They are about the only remaining decent option for those that want an old school conventional wash machines.

My hunch is that the TL / FL debate will largely be over in 15 years or so, but my crystal ball is out for polishing currently.

 

[volsboy1]

They are selling tons of them Speedqueens and this guy here gets old top loaders and rebuilds them because they have mechanical dials and metal gears in them for 800$ for the SQ and $125 bucks for a rebuilt washer and he gives you a year warranty his business is booming big time.

My Sister and brother go through these new front loaders every 3 years and buy another, which for the life of me I do not understand

is it not more wasteful throwing out these machines than one that uses more water but lasts for 15 years or more.The water is not like gasoline the water goes to

the septic tank and filters out on the way down to the water table.

 

[foraloysius]

Full capacity

Here is a video of somebody washing 75 t-shirts in a Duet:

 

[NYCWriter]

There's really not enough "tumble" action ...

... going on in this washer to wash those t-shirts effectively.

 

[foraloysius]

A lot of European frontloaders tumble like that and they get A-ratings for cleanability.

 

[mrboilwash]

There`s still penty of tumble action, we have been doing so sucessfully for about 60 years in Europe.

But to be fair you really cannot compare US FL with EU front loaders.

Unlike most US FL machines the Duet gives at least a somewhat decent washtime for a full cotton load, but still there is the lack of a cold start. Guess the "warm" water is barely lukewarm 5 minutes into the cycle.
No, I wouldn`t fill it up to capacity and expect top results. [this post was last edited: 10/4/2013-05:23]

 

[chestermikeuk]

At Last

A decent machine load on film, there`s enough tumble in that to get them clean with the right amount of powder HE detergent!!, You only have to focus on any of the green / orange t-shirts to see how they move from the middle to the side of the load, and the load on the outside will certainly get a good wash action...

Our detergents are formulated to work best with a cold to selected temperature profile wash by the use of a 240v heater , I guess its one way not having a heater is that the US government and eco bods have to cover themselves in case everyone started using 240v heated front loaders, which would just overwhelm household supplies and the national grid infrastructure!!

I love using top loaders but the trade off for me in terms of energy used, water and detergent costs - a front loader it will be - each to our own circumstances!!

 

[DADoES]

 
Per request, a brief clip of my Calypso running a large load of towels/cottons (check the video description at YouTube for details on what is in the load).  Sorry for the rather low video quality.  I didn't use any additional lighting, and this is a new camera so I'm not yet onto its quirks.

Anyway, the clip shows how the Calypso does rollover and rotate the items.  Watch some of the items as the clip progresses -- the salmon-colored towel, a sock, red-striped dishcloth, etc. -- to see how items roll from outside to center as the load simultaneously rotates counterclockwise through the recirculation stream.

 

[washman]

Yes

I am.

 

[logixx]

The tumbling action in that Duet is sufficient, if the cycle time is long enough. This is how European machines work (larger load = longer overall cycle). Naturally, the fact that European washers must heat their own water increases cycle time as well. My Duet could wash a medium load at 40C in 40 minutes - with two rinses - had I connected the washer to warm water. However,  its relatively weak heater at 2000 watts (given the size of the machine) forces me to use longer cycles. I have washed loads as large as the one in that video and got perfect results - I just needed to select a long enough cycle.

 

Alex

 

[electron1100]

Miele Video On Youtube

Talking about people who don't like to overload there machines have a look at this video it is priceless

 

[chestermikeuk]

"Not The One I'd Have Chosen"

Oh - Don't Miele' do Multi- Fabric Washes Then?

 

[a440]

Dadoes that for the awesome video!
The circulation of the towels is very impressive!
Brent

 

[a440]

*thanks* for the awesome video...