Ariel Colour 3in1 Pods

[liberatordeluxe]

Just curious to know how others have found these? I find them ok but only get them on special offer. Regarding rinsing if there are water droplets on the door glass of the washing machine does that mean the detergent has fully rinsed out?

 

[liberatordeluxe]

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[liamy1]

Ariel,

Yes I really like these, I know to the dismay of some here Ariel happens to be one of my favourite detergents (probably just beaten/tied first place with Fairy).

I don't know all that much, but yes, I would think droplets would indicate that the soap has been rinsed out adequately enough, as there is no longer the same concentration of "wetting agents" in the solution, so the water starts to bead again.

I have used practically every detergent we have on sale currently.

I know how much rinsing is important to you, so here are my experiences.

Gels/Pods and liquids are foamier and harder to rinse out than powders, I have found this regardless of brand -

This may go someway to explaining why fabrics feel softer when washed in liquids than powders, as it isn't fully rinsed out so the of the fabric softening agents remain in the fabric.

That could be total baloney, but the reason I say the above is that, I did read somewhere, a comment from someone who used to work at Unilever in the labs. She said that because liquid detergents are denser than water, it was harder to fully rinse from fabrics as opposed to powder. She also said she uses only powder; any branded one that was on offer, but she wouldn't use the colour versions, as she said they were unnecessary and a gimmick made up by P&G. She also said that fabric softener was the work of the devil and no-one who worked at the Unilever labs would use it. I wish I could find the link to this again, I may try tonight.

Anyway, in terms of powder, I find by far, the cleanest rinsing is Surf, closely followed by Persil.

The P&G lot have got much, much better at rinsing out though, there as a time in the not so distant past that with Ariel especially, getting the dose wrong would mean rinsing forever.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Liamy, That would be helpful if you did find that comment from the person who worked at Unilever. I have a Bosch washer which I got in 2013 and I know it rinses well providing you get a low sudsing detergent. I did use Tide HE liquid and found that it worked quite well but I have found there is never enough anti foam in powders especially branded and its been known for the suds to come half way up the door on Bosch and activated anti foam sensor!

I am too 'scared' to use standard powder on my best clothes as would hate to damage colour and I don't really want optical brighteners on colours. Standard powder seems to have OB. I remember it was only 1992 I think? we got colour detergent.

 

[liamy1]

Found some of it...

It was on Mumsnet, the posts from the user rabbit123, she used to work for Unilever (as it explains in the thread).

Washing powder or liquid | Mumsnet

Is liquid bad for washing machines I've got some but someone said. It wrecks machines I do towels with non bio on 60 Bedding with non bio on 60...

www.mumsnet.com

 

[liamy1]

Found rest of it

From the 2 threads I have linked (one above and the one below), you will see the recommendations from user rabbit123

Best non bio for eczema | Mumsnet

Any recommendations? I have eczema and usually buy liquid detergent :) thanks all

www.mumsnet.com

 

[liamy1]

1992,,

Yes I think you're right, it was around that time, and it does seem Ariel was first with it.

I too use colour detergents, whether it makes an absolute difference, I don't know. As for the amount of times my clothes get washed, after time, just the friction alone will start to wear the fabric.

To be honest, I can put up with a bit of fade over time, and for the "mid" colours, not too much of a problem.

What drives me absolutely nuts however, is the dusty-white hue on dark-dark like blacks and navy's, so use coloured without OBs to stop that.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Thanks Liamy! Makes a lot of sense and very informative. If I went back to bio powder it would have to be Persil Bio or Surf as the rest smell dreadful. I like the smell of purple box surf and that smells like how Ariel used to smell.

 

[liamy1]

Don't know...

How long it has been since you smelt Ariel, but the scent was changed about 6 months ago.

Surf can be a surprisingly good detergent, it's only let down is that the powders only contain one enzyme. Some of their liquids (especially the newer scents) contain 3, but that would defeat the object, as surf's liquids - especially the capsules, are really foamy.

 

[hoovermatic]

What puzzles me is that I can do a regular wash load and there is very little in the way of suds during the wash part of the cycle and yet when the rinsing starts the suds seem to go off the scale - only when the last rinse starts do the suds really appear to have been eradicated. Is it something to so with the water temperature?

 

[liamy1]

I tend....

to find that the opposite is true, i.e. more foam in hotter temperatures. Of course this could vary by brand of detergent, agitation pattern of machine and fabrics being washed.

It could be that it is just the way supposed to work, of course, in the rinse phase the job is to get as much soap out of clothes as it possible (so it maybe more water in the rinse phase, different cycle patern). Or it could be as I am sure seen mentioned here before, as the product starts to leave the tub, the detergent (along with the suds suppressing ingredients). So until a 2nd or 3rd rinse is done, you see more suds.

Funnily enough, Persil said they could make a detergent that did not suds whatsoever, however, they won't as they know primarily, we equate suds to cleaning power.

http://https//www.persil.co.uk/laundry-tips/much-detergent-use-matters/

 

[hoover8pulse]

That's interesting liamy1 about Unilever workers, considering they manufacture Comfort and Persil in a colour variant. I have found though that colour powder doesn't work very well, to me there seems little point in buying it when colour liquids or even a standard liquid do better imo. As far as I know also, optical brighteners don't fade clothes, for most of them it enhances how they look but on some items apparently it can made them look dusty, like on dark jeans.

I really like Surf, currently on a box of the tropical lily and also the Sunshine Lemons which is my fave. I've used the latter without conditioner and it seems to soften clothes okay, it certainly doesn't leave them rough or scratchy at all and the fragrance left behind is pleasant and noticeable. Also, the only stain Surf hasn't shifted is pasta sauce, it's removed every other stain that has been on my laundry. This is very good for a detergent that only contains one enzyme, methinks they still secretly ensure the formula removes 99 top stains but don't put this on the box.

 

[liamy1]

It is...

Really interesting, as you say. On the same forum, I think the Unilever worker said, that Persil responded with the colour care, to of course not lose market share to P&G.

On softener, I think she said something along the lines of it being completely unnecessary, and it coats the fibres and the machine, something like that anyway.

Interestingly, she said she would use any branded stuff that was on offer (even P&G stuff lol), but I do clearly remember her saying she would not use colour stuff, liquids or non bio.

Got to admit, I love my softener, there was a period a few years back where I did get out of using it for a bit, as I am in a soft water area, and truth be told, I probably don't need it. But I do like it.

Detergent is my thing, so I have used all of them, and probably have way more than I should. As you say, the reason I use colour stuff, is I hat the dusty hue on dark clothes, but other than that, I can cope with a bit of fade.

Yes, I did like surf when I was using it, and I can't recall a stain it did not shift.

There has never been a specific reason, but I will normally choose Ariel over others.

And Fairy, I so wish this was a Bio without changing anything else. I love the stuff, I probably sound like an advert, but it really is the softest non bio, everything washed in Fairy is softer than any other detergent, bar none (especially towels) and if you combine it with Fairy fabric softener, the smell is out of this world.

And Fairy Liquid non bio and Lenor spring awakening, has always been my favourite scent combination.

 

[aquacycle]

That's interesting about the inside info from Unilever, Liam! It does seem to correspond to as Lever Bros/Unilever have only responded to changes that have been driven by other manufacturers - the didn't launch a biological detergent until 1983 and only on the back of Ariel launching Ariel Automatic in 1982. Even the launch of Bold in the early 70's didn't push Persil to go biological, so it obviously was a direct result of the success of Ariel Auto.

And the same with liquids - Ariel liquid came out in 87 with Persil liquids following in 88.

I'm with you on the fabric softener. I don't use any of the ridiculous scents - infusions, exhilerations or those awful unstopables - I only use the original ranges. It's one of those things that I use but think I probably shouldn't lol.

I haven't used colour detergent in years. I used to use both bio and colour powders but the colour detergent just wasn't shifting underarm wiffs from being in a stuffy office on a hot summers day, so I ditched it completely. I use Persil Bio powder for almost everything and haven't noticed fading any more so than when I used colour powder. The only exception to that is jeans, but I do have a bottle of Ecover Non-Bio liquid in for washing woollens and jeans.

I used to really like Surf and my Mum used it for years when I was a kid - in the box blue boxes with the wave on the front. It seems to have gone the way of Bold in recent years with less focus on cleaning and more focus on smell, although I still think it washes better than Bold.

 

[aquacycle]

Edit: I completely forgot, Wisk was the first laundry liquid available in the UK (I think!) from 1986 and it was a Lever product. Shame it was utter rubbish lol

 

[hoover8pulse]

That makes sense that they have Persil colour as a response to Ariel colour, but they're not needed imo at all. I have actually found though that the best thing to keep clothes longer lasting is to use a decent detergent and a good 40c wash (for most things) and this will get them clean, get all stains out and keep them fresh.

I do like my conditioners too, but I've several bottles of super stinky Lenors, like the Amber Flower, Emerald and Black Diamond ones, that when I bought them smelt lovely in the bottle but vile on dried clothes! So now I just stick to Spring Awakening and Summer Breeze for Lenor, and Tropical Comfort as these leave a nice smell on finished washing. I'm also currently loving M&S Ocean Fresh and Aldi's range too. I also went through a phase of not using it and barely noticed the difference apart from the scent, dried laundry still felt quite soft and that was line dried washing, plus it felt good not having the chemicals in the clothes! I do use it because I think it does help to protect clothes, but recently I've been on Anco So Soft in the big bottles from Aldi, when using it it's like going back in time as it's diluted so you can just slosh some into the drawer!

Years ago when the washer repair man came to fix my parent's LG washing machine he asked what detergents we used, and he said the same thing regarding conditioners. Goos up the drawer and the machine, especially as some love to overdose on the stuff, he said it more or less keeps him in business! So he said it was unnecessary and it was a con, but it's there if you want to use it.

Blue Lenor is my favourite though. When I use it it reminds me of when I used to go shopping with nan when I was little as she would always ask me to run and grab a bottle from the shelf. Plus I did some bedding today with Almat Bio and Lenor and the scent is so lovely!

I will either chose Ariel or Surf these days, but normally it is a biological powder I will go for, and I have tested Sainsbury's Bio recently which was very very good (also got a Which Best Buy I think last year). Also purchased Almat Bio powder yesterday too.

 

[liamy1]

Colour detergent

I am wondering now, whether to use it as par for the course, or just use a bio powder. I have instinctively always used a colour detergent for colours.

As laundress said, if something is capable of removing coloured stains (coffee, tomato etc) then over time, it is also capable of removing colour dye.

BUT, I've been on that Mumsnet some years, and I have seen various threads where the Unilever employee has commented, and her opinion has always been consistent, that colour detergents are a gimmick made up from P&G. Along with the advice of not using liquids, non bios, or fabric softener.

And thinking about it, only Persil, Ariel and store own brands have remained with a "colour" product.

I know Fairy, Daz, Surf and Radion did come out with colour versions, but they never stuck.

As mentioned on my other thread "colour powder soon to be gone?" Surf are coming out with a specific coloured product, but they are only coming in liquids, and besides the removal of OBs, I can bet it is not going to be different to any other liquid.

In terms of softners, Yes some of them have hideous scents, that are headache inducing. I tried one from comfort last week, called tuberose and vanilla, it brought me out in an instant rash just unloading clothes from the machine. Another - Tesco's Lavender one, smelt ok in bottle, smelt like nit lotion on washed clothing

Don't shoot me, I love the lenor unstoppables, they are really handy on stuff that you're not supposed to use softener on, I like all the scents except the gold (lavish i think) one.

Infact that had just reminded me of another product that Unilever has launched to respond to P&G - Comfort Fragrance Burst, exact same as Lenor Unstoppables. They come in a blue and a pink version. They been out about 3 months now. I have them, only used them once, still prefer Lenors

http://carejohnson.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/product-review-comfort-fragrance-burst.html

 

[hoover8pulse]

I've read several threads where that poster has commented also and agree with what she says. It's better to buy one detergent with all of the technology in it as opposed to separate products. I used to use colour detergent also, but found the powders left clothes smelling a bit 'off' and the liquids are identical to the biological version, minus the ob's and a different scent.

For jeans, I use liquids or a pod, but I posted a thread on a forum about black jeans fading and what can I do to prevent this and there was a really helpful reply. The woman who replied said that she buys a big box of Ariel Bio and on jeans/coloured washes uses a slightly lesser dose, so 75-80ml as opposed to 115ml (at the time the dose was 102ml) and that works too.

Ooh I'll check out your thread, not really on here much these days as I prefer the FB page.

That Comfort stinks! I smelt a really odd one, called Snapdragon and Patchouli and freshly washed clothes do not smell freshly washed, they stink of horrible chemicals!

I like the Unstoppables too, but use them sparingly after finding out about the horrible chemicals in them. The Comfort ones are not good, I tried them on a towels wash with Comfort Blue and Persil Non-Bio and they did not smell nice.

TBH I find using Surf powder leaves a nice fragrance on laundry, tried the Sensations Golden Blossom powder and it's quite nice actually, but I do not understand the need for washing to smell like Amber Flower or Posy Passion.