supremewhirlpol
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Controls. Timer looks a little small
Ariston machines in the US?
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supremewhirlpol
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Water valves are part of the dispenser system, looks cheap.
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Back off, I'm not seeing a heater
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It's got a board! I presume for motor control and cycle functions. Motor is part Induction, part Brush
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Time to run the machine and see how it acts.
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The motor is brushed.
I dont know how you came to the conclusion that it is part induction part brushed as I wasnt aware both could be combined??? Maybe im wrong but doubt it. Especially as these were relatively cheap when they were around circa 2000/2001.
As for seeing no heater you actually wont. The heating elements for the dryer are contained in the fan chamber and the water heating elements are hidden away in the actual wash tub.
A friend of mine had one of these machines that cost her £299 from Curry's, it barely lasted her 18 months after having had 2 timer repairs.
There was a common fault on these that meant it would continue to click the dial around even after the wash cycle ended.
I dont know how you came to the conclusion that it is part induction part brushed as I wasnt aware both could be combined??? Maybe im wrong but doubt it. Especially as these were relatively cheap when they were around circa 2000/2001.
As for seeing no heater you actually wont. The heating elements for the dryer are contained in the fan chamber and the water heating elements are hidden away in the actual wash tub.
A friend of mine had one of these machines that cost her £299 from Curry's, it barely lasted her 18 months after having had 2 timer repairs.
There was a common fault on these that meant it would continue to click the dial around even after the wash cycle ended.
hooverkeymatic
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???
Why does it have a Whirlpool-ish drum? I thought they usually have Indesit drums.
Why does it have a Whirlpool-ish drum? I thought they usually have Indesit drums.
cfz2882
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drum
the drum is exactly the same as the drum in my splendide as
is the air heater.Other details are different though.
My splendide is antonio merloni from 2002.
the drum is exactly the same as the drum in my splendide as
is the air heater.Other details are different though.
My splendide is antonio merloni from 2002.
What a cute machine, they dont look to be too badly made remarkabley.
Rob, the old Miele's had a combined Brush/Induction motor. It was how they provided multiple speeds without computer control. It has a single shaft with the induction motor at one end and the brush motor at the other. My W423 manages 3 speeds with no clutch and no electronics.
Tumble, 900Rpm and 1100Rpm
Rob, the old Miele's had a combined Brush/Induction motor. It was how they provided multiple speeds without computer control. It has a single shaft with the induction motor at one end and the brush motor at the other. My W423 manages 3 speeds with no clutch and no electronics.
Tumble, 900Rpm and 1100Rpm
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Yes, It is a cute machine,BUT there just has to be some part that is of poor quality. The door is plastic, inner is glass, outer window looks to be plastic. The fill valve assembly, poor quality, but I have to say it actually does a decent job washing and drying, granted you don't overload it, and leave enough room in the machine so you can see the back. I've done 3 loads now and it does take 3-5 hours to wash and dry each load, but it works pretty well. The machine is pretty quiet. The other thing is that is uses next to no water. I'm not used to seeing the clothes just wet and tumbling. With that being said, how much soap should I really use if the machine uses hardly no water? I want to try to keep the spider in the best condition possible.
Regarding the motor:
It is either Brush only, or Induction/Brush. The machine has 600/1200 RPM spin speed, so it does need a brush component to spin that fast. The motor is not Inverter Duty, because the control board doe not look like it can support the IGBT's required for the modified sine wave. The machine does have spin bursts, but it also has a few speeds that are slightly faster than the tumble speed. I have not taken the motor out and examined it yet, and I have not taken a close look at the control board either. Oh, and there is a small capacitor that is connected to some of the wires that go to the motor. There are relays that click every time the motor changes direction though. I'm still thinking the motor is Induction/Brush.
Regarding the motor:
It is either Brush only, or Induction/Brush. The machine has 600/1200 RPM spin speed, so it does need a brush component to spin that fast. The motor is not Inverter Duty, because the control board doe not look like it can support the IGBT's required for the modified sine wave. The machine does have spin bursts, but it also has a few speeds that are slightly faster than the tumble speed. I have not taken the motor out and examined it yet, and I have not taken a close look at the control board either. Oh, and there is a small capacitor that is connected to some of the wires that go to the motor. There are relays that click every time the motor changes direction though. I'm still thinking the motor is Induction/Brush.
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That Ariston machine here in Italy would be a 5/3 kg or 6/4 kg wash and dry. Usually when drying a full load after the wash, you simply take half of the clothes and dry half at a time.
As for detergent use, I'd say that you need less than half than a standard topload (anybody confirm?).
With an European detergent the standard dose is anywhere between 100-150 ml of diluite liquids or 25-35 ml of concentrated.
Or 80 g of powder detergent.
As for detergent use, I'd say that you need less than half than a standard topload (anybody confirm?).
With an European detergent the standard dose is anywhere between 100-150 ml of diluite liquids or 25-35 ml of concentrated.
Or 80 g of powder detergent.
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Well....
.....seems that avoiding chlorine bleach is what you MUST do if you want the spider to last.
As for load....fill 'er right to the top if you just want a wash and half way up the door if you want to do wash-dry in one cycle...
Now, as for the plastic doors...Just because it is plastic, doesn't make it bad/poor quality...the outer plastic piece in the inside of the 'dish' part of the door is to stop children and stupid adults from scalding themselves on the door-glass when the machine is drying - it gets VERY HOT...
As for detergent quantity...I would suggest using 1/2 the amount you would use in a Neptune which here is rated at 8 or 10kg....make sure it is the lowest sudsing, best quality powdered detergent you can find and AVOID chlorine bleach!!!
.....seems that avoiding chlorine bleach is what you MUST do if you want the spider to last.
As for load....fill 'er right to the top if you just want a wash and half way up the door if you want to do wash-dry in one cycle...
Now, as for the plastic doors...Just because it is plastic, doesn't make it bad/poor quality...the outer plastic piece in the inside of the 'dish' part of the door is to stop children and stupid adults from scalding themselves on the door-glass when the machine is drying - it gets VERY HOT...
As for detergent quantity...I would suggest using 1/2 the amount you would use in a Neptune which here is rated at 8 or 10kg....make sure it is the lowest sudsing, best quality powdered detergent you can find and AVOID chlorine bleach!!!
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As someone mentioned the timer on here i thought i would mention it aswell. My mate bought that exact same model and hers last barely 4 months and the control board burned out, then the timer kept advancing. 4 Repairs in 12 months and it broke again with the same problem just after the warranty ran out. She used to use the dryer a lot with having 2 kids and maybe that contributed towards the control board burn out.
In the end i used the machine for parts for my indesit as the motor had burned out on it. good luck with the machine, maybe the one you have may be ok if its lasted this long
As someone mentioned the timer on here i thought i would mention it aswell. My mate bought that exact same model and hers last barely 4 months and the control board burned out, then the timer kept advancing. 4 Repairs in 12 months and it broke again with the same problem just after the warranty ran out. She used to use the dryer a lot with having 2 kids and maybe that contributed towards the control board burn out.
In the end i used the machine for parts for my indesit as the motor had burned out on it. good luck with the machine, maybe the one you have may be ok if its lasted this long
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I am I little concerned about the control board, as when one of the relays are fired, the LEDs in the front dim. Tim did say that the timer does stick from time to time. Given the issues that others have posted about this machine, it may be best not to use it very often. There may come a time where I may really need to use this machine, before I can redesign the control board. Thanks guys for the advice on how much soap to use.
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