Great article on a sad ending..the entire company should of, and could of still existed today as it once was as it's demise was completely self-inflicted.
Article: 100th Anniversary of Westinghouse in Mansfield
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norgeway
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I will take
That whole row of appliances brand new thank you!
That whole row of appliances brand new thank you!
Interesting read
I want to go through the House Of Tomorrow!
I wonder how many years the Westinghouse refrigerator was made in Columbus, OH.And I did not know White Consolidated was Cleveland based.
I want to go through the House Of Tomorrow!
I wonder how many years the Westinghouse refrigerator was made in Columbus, OH.And I did not know White Consolidated was Cleveland based.
corvairgeek
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WCI Columbus
I believe the last thing assembled in the Columbus plant was dishwashers, but I could be wrong. I recall at least some sort of small WCI presence in the plant for many years.
I recall in the strike around '69 that the name WESTINGHOUSE, that was spelled out in big letters at ground level in front of the Columbus plant, had some of the letters broken off during the picketing / protest.
I believe the last thing assembled in the Columbus plant was dishwashers, but I could be wrong. I recall at least some sort of small WCI presence in the plant for many years.
I recall in the strike around '69 that the name WESTINGHOUSE, that was spelled out in big letters at ground level in front of the Columbus plant, had some of the letters broken off during the picketing / protest.
arbilab
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Makes me wistful. We were a W family. Westinghouse was the first long word I could spell. Dad worked there (apparatus) straight out of WW2 until he retired from nuclear in the 80s.
Westinghouse pritmuch invented employee benefits, starting with the 6-- later 5-- day workweek. They took care of their own. Only a regional sales manager, Dad sent 4 kids to college, cash, and stepmom still lives on the sale of W stock.
This is why it galls me so when legacy brands get diluted, defamed, destroyed by "new-age" management or whatever the expletive they call themselves. It undermines the very structure that made us the economic, productivity, world-standard powerhouse we were.
Some compense that I got to see/live it, countered by appreciation for the depth of loss. Who killed Westinghouse? Here's a multi-chapter article titled exactly that, from Pittsburgh Post Gazette. If they're still in business that is.
Westinghouse pritmuch invented employee benefits, starting with the 6-- later 5-- day workweek. They took care of their own. Only a regional sales manager, Dad sent 4 kids to college, cash, and stepmom still lives on the sale of W stock.
This is why it galls me so when legacy brands get diluted, defamed, destroyed by "new-age" management or whatever the expletive they call themselves. It undermines the very structure that made us the economic, productivity, world-standard powerhouse we were.
Some compense that I got to see/live it, countered by appreciation for the depth of loss. Who killed Westinghouse? Here's a multi-chapter article titled exactly that, from Pittsburgh Post Gazette. If they're still in business that is.
WCI
@corvairgeek - I'm from a small town near Pittsburgh and left to go to school in Columbus. (DeVry 1981 - 1985). The apartment building I lived in had shaded harvest gold Westinghouse appliances. The electric range was BOL.The dishwasher was POS. You had to virtually wash the dishes before placing them in the DW. The refrigerator won me over. It was very well built. I wanted to take it with me when I left.
@arbilab - "step mom still lives off the sale of W stock". Damn I'm envious. But regarding historic appliance brands, nothing stays the same. What are we to do? (Assemble vintage appliance museums in our basements.... I suppose)...
@corvairgeek - I'm from a small town near Pittsburgh and left to go to school in Columbus. (DeVry 1981 - 1985). The apartment building I lived in had shaded harvest gold Westinghouse appliances. The electric range was BOL.The dishwasher was POS. You had to virtually wash the dishes before placing them in the DW. The refrigerator won me over. It was very well built. I wanted to take it with me when I left.
@arbilab - "step mom still lives off the sale of W stock". Damn I'm envious. But regarding historic appliance brands, nothing stays the same. What are we to do? (Assemble vintage appliance museums in our basements.... I suppose)...
That Post-Gazette article was really sad but true. We were a W family too.
golittlesport
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we were a Westinghouse family too
Grew up in Pittsburgh where Dad worked at Westinghouse's Bettis plant as an engineer. He received a nice discount on Westinghouse appliances and so just about everything in the house was Westinghouse. There were a few exceptions, mostly gifted items - like the Electrolux vacuum that was a wedding present. My mom's parents were General Motors all the way, cars or appliances, so our dishwasher and clothes dryer were Frigidaire - gifts from them. When the Frigidaire dryer expired, it was replaced with a Westinghouse.
Dad stayed with Westinghouse his whole career, ending up in New Mexico working on storing nuclear waste in the salt caverns.
When Westinghouse sold their appliance division and there were no more discounts on appliances for employees, there were no more Westinghouse (or White-Westinghouse I should say)appliance purchases for us. Mom's next refrigerator was General Electric and she turned to Kenmore for laundry appliances.
A few years ago Mom remodeled her kitchen and the contractor put in a Frigidaire dishwasher and stove. She was excited about having Frigidaire, considering them a premium brand in the day. I didn't have the heart to correct her impression. (Although I have had favorable experience with Electrolux/Frigidaire front load laundry appliances. My son and daughter-in-law still use the 2006 set I gave them.)
Grew up in Pittsburgh where Dad worked at Westinghouse's Bettis plant as an engineer. He received a nice discount on Westinghouse appliances and so just about everything in the house was Westinghouse. There were a few exceptions, mostly gifted items - like the Electrolux vacuum that was a wedding present. My mom's parents were General Motors all the way, cars or appliances, so our dishwasher and clothes dryer were Frigidaire - gifts from them. When the Frigidaire dryer expired, it was replaced with a Westinghouse.
Dad stayed with Westinghouse his whole career, ending up in New Mexico working on storing nuclear waste in the salt caverns.
When Westinghouse sold their appliance division and there were no more discounts on appliances for employees, there were no more Westinghouse (or White-Westinghouse I should say)appliance purchases for us. Mom's next refrigerator was General Electric and she turned to Kenmore for laundry appliances.
A few years ago Mom remodeled her kitchen and the contractor put in a Frigidaire dishwasher and stove. She was excited about having Frigidaire, considering them a premium brand in the day. I didn't have the heart to correct her impression. (Although I have had favorable experience with Electrolux/Frigidaire front load laundry appliances. My son and daughter-in-law still use the 2006 set I gave them.)
norgeway
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Westinghouse
And Frigidaire were considered top shelf products in NC where I grew up, The most expensive stores in town sold them, Funny, I never thought of GE or Hotpoint being anything but cheap stuff because in our town all the cheaper homes had them, but Frigidaire and Westinghouse stuff you saw in the high dollar neighborhoods
And Frigidaire were considered top shelf products in NC where I grew up, The most expensive stores in town sold them, Funny, I never thought of GE or Hotpoint being anything but cheap stuff because in our town all the cheaper homes had them, but Frigidaire and Westinghouse stuff you saw in the high dollar neighborhoods
corvairgeek
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My WCI
I can't recall if any of the WCI products actually said Columbus, or if they all said Dublin, OH. I checked our BOL garage unit that replaced our beloved '50 Westinghouse, but it says Dublin too.
We had a MOL WCI dishwasher about the same vintage that was awful.
I can't recall if any of the WCI products actually said Columbus, or if they all said Dublin, OH. I checked our BOL garage unit that replaced our beloved '50 Westinghouse, but it says Dublin too.
We had a MOL WCI dishwasher about the same vintage that was awful.
justjunque
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Springfield, MA
Sorry. I don't know what they did there, or when it closed, but Westinghouse had a big factory complex in Springfield MA.
The only thing remaining is the brick building that was the offices.
The rest of the complex was torn down, and they built one big factory where a Chinese company builds train cars.
Barry
Sorry. I don't know what they did there, or when it closed, but Westinghouse had a big factory complex in Springfield MA.
The only thing remaining is the brick building that was the offices.
The rest of the complex was torn down, and they built one big factory where a Chinese company builds train cars.
Barry
jeb
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Westinghouse strike
The 50's strike what a major event , that got very violent. Cars were overturned, property was damaged and you could be visited in the middle of the night and threaten if you didn't support the strike. Families were going without food (most were a one paycheck household). My grandmother, worked in administration , said there was a line worker who had to bring his lunch and hang his coat in the executive rooms for years after the strike because he crossed the picket line. He said his family needed food. After the strike he found "things" in his lunch and coat(I heard dead animals) and he was afraid he would be poisoned. My grandmother had a little side business hanging wallpaper and that's how they made it through.
The 50's strike what a major event , that got very violent. Cars were overturned, property was damaged and you could be visited in the middle of the night and threaten if you didn't support the strike. Families were going without food (most were a one paycheck household). My grandmother, worked in administration , said there was a line worker who had to bring his lunch and hang his coat in the executive rooms for years after the strike because he crossed the picket line. He said his family needed food. After the strike he found "things" in his lunch and coat(I heard dead animals) and he was afraid he would be poisoned. My grandmother had a little side business hanging wallpaper and that's how they made it through.
arbilab
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Does anyone know the motive for the strike? Sometimes unions were necessary as employees were being bullied to the point of inhumane; Ford comes to mind, once his megalomania took hold. Other times unions WERE the bullies.
"Does anyone know the motive for the strike"
Apparently what it always comes down to; management wanted (and or needed)to save labor costs, and the union said "not on our members backs you won't".
https://newspaperarchives.vassar.edu/cgi-bin/vassar?a=d&d=miscellany19560516-01.2.21
http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/?a=d&d=CDS19551018.2.7&
https://www.leagle.com/decision/1955680383pa2971629
http://russenzor.blogspot.com/2016/02/a-strike-at-sixty.html
In a basic nutshell Westinghouse wanted to conduct a limited time study to see if worker costs could be brought down. Unions feared (likely rightly) that Westinghouse would use any results of said study to further automate plants and thus reduce workers.
As others have stated the 1955 strike was bitter, nasty and harmed both Westinghouse and employees/union.
Apparently what it always comes down to; management wanted (and or needed)to save labor costs, and the union said "not on our members backs you won't".
https://newspaperarchives.vassar.edu/cgi-bin/vassar?a=d&d=miscellany19560516-01.2.21
http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/?a=d&d=CDS19551018.2.7&
https://www.leagle.com/decision/1955680383pa2971629
http://russenzor.blogspot.com/2016/02/a-strike-at-sixty.html
In a basic nutshell Westinghouse wanted to conduct a limited time study to see if worker costs could be brought down. Unions feared (likely rightly) that Westinghouse would use any results of said study to further automate plants and thus reduce workers.
As others have stated the 1955 strike was bitter, nasty and harmed both Westinghouse and employees/union.
arbilab
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...harmed both...
Two more victims of human greed and folly. [Pphr from Morbius in Forbidden Planet] Primate posturing. [Running theme in 2001 ASO]
Folly all the more egregious looking at where we are now, a figurative pile of bricks. Done is done, but given to wonder if we learned anything.
Two more victims of human greed and folly. [Pphr from Morbius in Forbidden Planet] Primate posturing. [Running theme in 2001 ASO]
Folly all the more egregious looking at where we are now, a figurative pile of bricks. Done is done, but given to wonder if we learned anything.
Around 1955 Was The Turning Point For WH Major Appliances
After this time quality and reliability just got worse and worse, I can't think of one really good appliance that they produced after this time, which is a real shame because they did have some great designs and styling.
WH rapidly started losing the builder business to GE, FD and WP and by the mid 60s few builders would take a chance putting WH appliances in their new homes, so the major appliance sales dwindled away.
John L.
After this time quality and reliability just got worse and worse, I can't think of one really good appliance that they produced after this time, which is a real shame because they did have some great designs and styling.
WH rapidly started losing the builder business to GE, FD and WP and by the mid 60s few builders would take a chance putting WH appliances in their new homes, so the major appliance sales dwindled away.
John L.
All my thoughts! Human progress...
And although still I’m impressed with everything I have read, for all that time and workmanship, Union strikes, labor strife, and all the while making decent appliances, of which if only THAT tradition could continue through today...
— Dave
And although still I’m impressed with everything I have read, for all that time and workmanship, Union strikes, labor strife, and all the while making decent appliances, of which if only THAT tradition could continue through today...
— Dave
During the 1956 strike, Mom was working at the East Pittsburgh plant in the Power Generation Business office, since they were not on strike and were working on advance contracts for utility companies, her office boarded a PRR train in nearby Wilmerding to the East Pittsburgh station, which was practically on W property, snuck into the plant, got their work and office equipment, re-boarded the train to nearby Wilkinsburg, where they worked in the Penn-Lincoln Hotel until the strike was over. But back to Imperial content...we always had Kenmore appliances, even with Dad's W discount because she believed the quality in the 60's and 70's wasn't what it once was.
norgeway
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I disagree
I thought Westinghouse was at their very best in the late 50s thru about 65 or so, My 59 Range tells me that, Its as heavy and well insulated as anything I ever used, I DO agree that the late 60s saw a sharp decline in quality.,But it did for many manufacturers.
I thought Westinghouse was at their very best in the late 50s thru about 65 or so, My 59 Range tells me that, Its as heavy and well insulated as anything I ever used, I DO agree that the late 60s saw a sharp decline in quality.,But it did for many manufacturers.
