Asperger's syndrome

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Cybrvanr

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Since Toggle requested, I'll write a bit about my life as an "Aspie" as those with Aspergers tend to call themselves...sounds a bit better at least!

Asperger's syndrome is a mild version of Autism, or sometimes called at Autistic spectrum disorder because symptoms vary a bit in magnitude from person to person. One of the most siginificant and outwardly apparent symptoms is problems with communication and social skills. For me, I always have had issues reading someone's feelings and body language, it's just something that doesn't come naturally for me. I rarely ever receive the "undertones" in a conversation. For example, someone could outright say that they are satisfied with my service, but in reality, they aren't, and might complain. Unfortunatley, I can't pick it up. Lack of eye contact is a common factor in this I guess and is a common sign of someone who is Aspie. When it comes to myself, I must conciously remind myself to look at the person whom I'm speaking with. Conversations are slow with me, as I must think about what I am about to say, and I have a terrible time making it "flow". Along with other Aspies, I have a rather monotone voice when I speak, and I am generally quiet, and don't speak an enormous amount. Oddly enough, despite my terrible verbal communication skills, my written skills seem to be rather good, as many have complemented me on my writing in the past.

I am a very cold, honest person, and many times this rubs others the wrong way, as I don't want to, and don't like to lie. Although we tell our kids not to lie at a young age, modern society tends to encourage lying, both in the business world, and in general social communication. You've all probably gotten the question from your significant other asking you if you like a particular garment or something...To a neurotypical person, a nice little white lie is ususally the correct response. For me, I must really bite my tongue to hold back the honesty, and then I'll end up feeling alkward because I've led this person into believeing I like something. Likewise, the honesty goes both ways, as I try to treat everyone I meet in my life with the utmost fair and balanced attitude that I can. In my life, typical relationships with others start out good, as others like my calm demeanour and good manners, but eventually sour, as my honest side sort of shows up, and most women aren't confortable with it. The communications aspect has also given me trouble when interviewing for jobs I was truly qualified for, but becasue I didn't posses the presentation skills, they didn't happen. Luckily, my current boss saw through that and gave me what has been a very good, and enjoyable career at his company.

The other big factor I have with communications is with feelings. I typically don't show intense feelings, and in fact am pretty neutral. It's something that has caused me issues when it comes to getting along with many women, as they tend to be rather emotional beings that make decisions based on feeling, not on logic. The feelings that another person may be experiencing typically don't transfer over to me, or at least, I don't show that that I am receiving that person's "vibe". My trouble with relationships may also have to do with the fact that my conversation topics are of no interest to most women, and even many men, as I tend to talk about technical stuff, instead of gossiping, which I find very rude. I am very concrete in my communications and don't like metaphors, or vague, ambiguous words...they don't mean a thing to me, but may to others, for example the word "upset" can mean everything from a nausous stomach, to anger to whatever you want it to!

Another big factor in Asperger's syndrome is an intense, obsessive interest in certain topics similiar to someone who is OCD. This is definitely me, as I have picked up a fare share of technical interests throughout my life that I've gotten pretty intense with. My all-time obsession has been audiovisual equipment, and this has brought me into a ludcrative career servicing and installing professional audiovisual gear. This interest also spreads into Automobiles have been an intense interest too, as I enjoy the engineering and technology that goes into them. Appliances, of course have always been a lifelong obsession, as I was always intrigued by the fascinating machines we use to carry out our lives. I remember looking underneath covers as a kid, and being curious as to what was going on inside. I asked technical questions about things. For example, I remember as a kid, when others around the neighborhood were playing baseball and into He-Man masters of the Universe, I was content to hang out in my Dad's garage taking apart old appliances I had collected out of trash piles around the neighborhood...I never have understood sports... I imagine

In school, I was relentlessly picked on I imagine because of my terrible social skills, and the fact I couldn't "read" the other kids, and figure out their little schemes to trick me and stuff. One of the other factors is that I just don't seem to get this bit where the typical male relentlessly competes with others around in an attempt to "prove himself". This, of course, shows up in sports, but also in everyday life, as men subtley and blalantly try to be better at something than another. While I believe it's good always set goals and try to achieve them, my goals are more logical. For example, let's build a building that's 1500 feet tall, not a building that's bigger than the next city's. I believe a lot of worthwhile energy is lost by the typical male trying to prove himself, versus working together for the better.

One of the last biggies for me that is pretty apparent is sensory perceiptions. My sensory input is very acute. I don't like a lot of direct glaring light, or odd-order harmonics in sound. In fact, I don't like a tremendous amount of noise and commotion and try to avoid those situations. I also cannot stand strong scents. You will find unscented soaps, detergents and cleaners around my house as I think the scents are too intense. The sensory issues however have helped me excell at my job as an audiovisual tech however because it involves being able to hear distortions and abnormalities in sound systems, as well as being able to see variations in pictures and color. I have found I can see and hear many things that others can't. The drawback of course is that I cannot listen to music on anything but the nicest sounding HiFi equipment, especially after working with some nice stuff all day!

Some other Aspies have issues with motor coordination and can be clumbsy. I am somewhat like this, but my fine motor coordination is an exception, as I have excellent handwriting and can draw very well. I also am very good with a soldering iron and tools. I do tend to run into furniture and trip over rugs as I walk through cluttered areas. This is probably also a reason why I hate sports...I simply am terrible at them! Another aspie trait is having to be very routine in life. That's definitely me, as I don't like to deviate from a pattern . This can be simple stuff, like my daily ritual of what I do and when I do it, to bigger things, like getting rather disturbed when major changes happen in my life, especially when I have no control over them. It even disturbs me sometimes to see progress around me like when a building or house that's been around for years gets demolished to make way for something new. Luckily for me, my parents and family have lived in the same area my whole life, and I haven't had to suffer with moving from place to place as a child as my parents chased a job or something.

My diagnosis came a few years ago, and sort of capped off a string of labels that were placed on me as a kid, everything from being ADHD (which seems to be a generic label for any kid that has trouble in school) to OCD, and even learning disabled. None of them fit. I was working at a psychology education center at a local school when one of the professors picked up on my demeanour. After investigating what he had mentioned it all fit, and I was officially diagnosed after past records were examined, along with interviews and other tests.

I hope I wasn't too long-winded here. Just that this discovery has really been a great revalation to me in my life, and I can now work to fix things that I consiously know are deficient. In reality, I sort of like being Aspie, as it has brought me a great analytical mind that enjoys tinkering with all things electrical and mechanical. I like being very fair and open-minded, as well as being very cool-headed. My intense thirst for knowledge and intense obsessions have brought me great enjoyment as well. Asperger's syndrome was just recently "discovered" and that's why it was never picked up on as I was a child. Many people throughout history though are believed to be Aspie as well, like Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein, among many. I believe I share a unique gift with the world's brightest!
 
thanks soo much for writing about this! i know a guy I work with has Aspergers and i dont think he knows it. i hope everyone here reads this.
 
My ex must have, it~ as his father certainly does. He is the kindest most innocent most child-like (and child-ish) person that I know. He is nearly 40, but loves music videos and television and CD's and movies. He gets scared if he sees me in a room where he does not expect me. (When he doesn't see me move). There is no concept of doing the chores and yard work and any other adult-oriented goal. In many ways he is 16 years old. for example, I get daily instructions as to how to cut a salad. I have over 20 years of experience cooking, he has none. Nice thing is, being divorced, I can say get the F out of the kitchen, (with knife in my hand and waving in ari) and 10 minutes later it is all forgotten.

When watching a comedy show of stand-up comics, I frequently have to *translate* the play-on-words in jokes till he gets the meaning. They can be VERY literal. Others take him for *slow* because he can't read between the lines, understand tone-of-voice or read body language. He is methodical and deliberate. There is a propensity to have piles of cr*p everywhere.

His heart is pure. His thoughts are un-tainted. It is impossible to stay angry with him.

I can say after 14 years of *marriage* I never really had a partner. It was more parent-child. I have not really lost a partner but gained the love and permanent respect of a teen-aged son. We have managed to peacefully live together for a year after our *divorce* and look forward to selling our little house and moving on.

I truly believe the universe gave him to me to be able to understand my father who is an Aspie as well. Armed with this information I began to understand my father. I began to see his need for order and structure and routines (Heavens no, don't break routines.

My dad came up from Florida to vist a few weeks ago. There we were in a restaurant when dad ordered from the waitress a side-dish of fava beans. Well, when the four of us at the table had ordered the same thing, she delivered them on a platter family-style. The man made such a fuss! He wanted them literally on the side of his plate. I had to calm him down (after he complained to me bitterly four times) and simply scooped some off the platter and put it on his plate.
At that very moment I KNEW he had Asperger's and relaized he was exactly liek my ex.
When his expectations of the world equalled the reality of the world, he was calmer. In my youth I read him as a control-freak. Now I see what the real deal is.

There are no accidents I life. When Rob broke up with me ("I'm not happy"~ no details) I began conversing with someone whose mother is an Aspie. Lo and behold, it all fell into place and right-quick!

A fortune-teller long ago told me my mission in life was to learn to get along with my father and mother. All three of us have been coming back to this life repeatedly to get it right. My father is now probably terminally ill (we'll know soon) and I am happy to say he and I have made peace due to my understaning of Asperger's.

Here is the biggest truth you will probably ever hear. We are ALL a little bit *off*. Love with all your heart. Be patient. Forgive forget, overlook. Don't have expectations. Man's only perfection lies in his imperfection; it is called character.

Thank you all for sharing your marevelous insights!

LOVE is the glue that holds the universe together, Nothing else really matters.
 
Little white lies

I am very aurally stimulated. (That is sound, dumkopft). I have spent nearly a decade-and-a-half trying to get my ex to be even a tiny bit diplomatic and use language SOFTLY and creatively so as not to offend. Not an ounce of progress *SIGH* Luckily the world *GETS* that he (my ex) doesn't mean to be rude.

Autism comes from the word *AUTOS* or self. Many can not see the needs of others, or udnerstand that others have feelings, they are unto *themselves*.

When he speaks to me I have to say flat out "What do you really want/need" to get a direct,straight answer. He has a REALLY hard time getting to the pont and expressing himself. many Apsies run on anxiety; OCD in some form sometimes accompanies this way-of-being.

Make no mistake, I love my Aspies dearly, please don't infer, *see* or conclude judgement in my words/posts, there is none.
 
Take it from a Moebian

That's what us people with Moebius Syndrome call ourselves. There's a small community on the internet for Moebians, but most of them are very ANGRY and BITTER like I used to be.

I do display alot of the characteristics of Asperger's. The poor verbal skills but good writing (sometimes) skills, the monotone-like voice that I use sometimes, the child-like obsessions with a certain object, thing, or person, inability to socialize and I have a hard time discerning if someone's joking with me or not. I used to think I had ADD but I can focus on things that are challenging or on something that I'm obsessed with, such as watching a washer or watching a Harry Potter movie. But I can NOT sit in a business meeting for more than 15 minutes without going spaced out and wishing it was over. So I don't know if that qualifies me as an Aspie but I do show alot of the signs of it.
 
Bitter in aisle one.

I tried bitter/angry/ sardonic. Too much work.

JUST KIDDING:

Does that make you a homo-lesbian? (a man who likes women) also known as a moebian?

(Ducks and runs from the torch-wielding crowd). WHOOSH.......
 
have also come to understand that some Aspies don't like to be touched. Espeically in the head-hair area. There was no spooning, no hugging no touching for years. Let me tell you how much fun it is to have affectionate gestures be rejected CONSTANTLY for years. Eventually, you learn to take matters into your own hands.

Any normal physical demonstrations of intimacy were mechanical, rushed and needed to be analyzed immediately afterwards. I got to the point that I said, *This is not an olympic event, and I will not hold up a score-card. Let's discuss this tomorrow*.

Apsies tend to be slow; they have one speed. Can't rush them. But their work is excellent and thorough when it gets done.

I get yelled at~ to this day~ if dinner varies from the standard 8:00 pm time, even by a few minutes. (Think about it, am I obligated to feed you at this point?).

I get grief if laundry is done on a day that is not on the schedule. He will assist me with ONE chore a day. Never more.

I get a complete blow-by-blow rundown of every itme bought at the supermarket. And the logic behind every purchase. (We dont need it or like it but I have a coupon!*). I dotn want to know, really!

Their sense of humor and the way the mock you is a bit rough to deal with. (OMG I must have it too!)

Best of all is that they can NOT do a poker face. You can read distaste on their faces a mile away. (Everything causes distaste).

If I had only known all of this years ago. I could have adjusted my expectations. NOTHING beats the forgiveness and love Aspies have to offer. Their sweet innocense shines through. I will never forget holding hands under the pillows in bed after a fight. I knew all was well in the world, I was loved. And those puppy dog eyes always proved it.
 
I have Asperger's also

Cybrvanl,

What you have described about yourself is exactly what I have lived with for 49 years. Started to school when I was five. The teachers could not get me "under control". I could not read what they were trying to tell me. I have problems to this day with strict routines. Can't break them no way no how. My main items of intense interest are 1) Washing machines 2) Fans 3) Mechanical cash registers. Cannot stand loud sounds, noisy crowds, don't really like to be touch. All the labels, sterotypes, excessive nervousness per our doctors all of them. I found out by accident what this was called in summer in 2004 when I read an article about Autism. When I read the article it all made sense and gave me a better understanding about myself. Gave my wife the article she read it and now understands my strict routines I have. I will be married 20 years this year and my wife understands I have a little mental flaw but helps me thur it each day. People with Aspergers are proned to suffer from depression as I am on medication for. But at times I still have problems with communications skills. I usally stand alone at parties and observe.

Thanks for posting this thread. I think a lot of people are unaware of this disorder.
 
Cybrvanr,

I assure you I am not the hypochondriac type of person that instantly identifies with every single syndrome or disease he reads or learns about. Anyhow, I can assure you I have totally identified with your excellent description of your condition. I am 54 Y.O. and consider myself a happy man. I guess have managed to led a "normal" life, but struggling every step of the way due to exactly the same symptoms you have described. I have always considered myself a "loner", but now after reading your post I guess I will have to review this simple description of my personality.

Emilio
 
Best of all is that they can NOT do a poker face.

Hell, I can't do any kind of face, so I bet I'd be pretty good at Poker.

But for all the crap I got in school and the rejection in social situations, seriously dislike my face. BUT when confronted with the alternative (SURGERY, been there, it didn't work) I think I'll just keep it. Tried faith healing too, not that I don't believe in it because God can do miracles, but it wasn't for me to get "healed".

I do exhibit the "getting out of routine" affects. Since one of my addictions is the washing machine, I set days out of the week for laundry. In fact, I used to revolve my whole week around laundry. For a while, Friday nights was pizza and Sir Frigemore. Then when I moved back from Massachusetts, it was usually Sunday afternoons with my friend Henry's Kenmore 90 series. Post-hurricane and living with parents, I have a 3-compartment laundry basket which I had sorted to a perfect 3-load wash every week. One of the reasons my mom drove me nuts was she'd wash the clothes for me (and hang them wet) and I missed my chance at enjoying using the washer. Nothing irked me more than seeing an empty compartment in the laundry basket. It threw the system all out of whack and it was like chaos to me.

Now that I have a wife, I'm trying to bend and let her do her laundry when she wants as well as establish a new laundry schedule. Washing for 2 adds twice the laundry so now it's about twice a week. Mainly Thursdays and Sundays. Miss a day and I'll have 3 Bob Loads to deal with. I also have to give up alot of my "me" time and turn it into "we" time. At least I found someone patient enough to put up with my quirks. She gives me my "washer" time no questions asked and I give her the love and affection she needs. Perfect. Not bad for a guy with a rare birth defect that nobody understands.
 
My Time with laundry

Jason,

Funny you should write about doing the laundry. My wife rarely does laundry because me the Aspie does all of it. It drives me insane when Lisa does the laundry and I see the washer or dryer not set on the proper settings. My laundry schedule is Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday morning. My wife cooks most of the time I clean up. WOW! I get to use all the cool appliances. I really have to be careful of my time versus our time. I will get so in grossed in something about washers or something mechanical and completely shut out the world which is not good for a marriage. I've had learn to time how to divide my me time with our time.

Later!
 
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