awn412

[maytagmike]

hi fellow club members, at the store meeting this morning our manager talked about bring in a speed queen top loading washer. he asked about the awn412. I jumped all over that, He is going to bring it in but wanted to get feedback from my fellow members. I have a Speed Queen wringer washer from the 50's that runs beautiffly.

Thanks, Maytagmike.

 

[jeffg]

The AWN412 is current BOL and lacks some very useful/popular features. Since they have only three residential models I'd recommend getting a TOL (AWN542) instead. Much better for selling purposes imo.

 

[washman]

Agreed with JeffG

But ANY SQ is a wise choice.

 

[billiedyer1954]

awn 432

I had my choice of the 3 models, and chose the 432. the top of the line had features that were unnecessary and the 412 did not have an extra rinse. for me the 432 was just right.

 

[yogitunes]

not uncommon business practices to bring in one model, and get feedback from customer interest....its not like the higher up models can't be ordered in as a special request....I am sure there will be brochures if a customer wants to compare with something more.....

would be better to have the middle model though, then they can choose going one up, or one down....

besides TOL may not always fit everyones needs or budget

 

[nmassman44]

Mine is the one speed wonder AWN 311 and it does what I want and I just use basically one cycle and that's Regular. If I want an extra rinse I just spin the timer back to the rinse cycle and let it do it's thing. I don't need a setting for 2nd rinse. So my thinking at the time was this...why pay more for stuff I won't or don't need?! I rarely use a gentle speed but of I have something I need to wash on Handwash/Gentle I have a cycle like that. It acts like a Maytag FabricMatic. They don't make my washer anymore.

 

[jeffg]

For selling, it's much easier (and more effective) to point to parts and explain their absence on BOL models, than to try and imagine parts on TOL models that nobody can even see. Also, any good salesperson will know the full functionality of these extra features and be able to explain it to customers. An extra rinse or handwash/gentle cycle doesn't begin to cover it.

 

[yogitunes]

the MAIN thing is, no matter what model you choose.....its all the same inside....

stainless tub, metal outter tub, same size no matter what model
fabric softner dispenser
same durable tranny, motor and pump quality....

while others, for lower cost, start cutting quality as well.....

some used plastic tubs, less effective agitators, or even painted enamel tops....

a good example was GE's Profile lineup.....or Maytag's Performa series...

 

[washman]

I'm frankly amazed

that SQ is selling well these days. Given the oft noted fact that most sheeple have been inbred to believe that when in doubt, cheaper is better, these machines seem to sell well in spite of that.

Alliance's annual report noted the 2 recent expansions at the Ripon facility to accommodate small chassis (read: home washers) production is certainly proof of this.

Secondly, with virtually NO advertising or marketing be it regional or national, it amazes me that SQ sells anything outside the commercial lineup. But I'm not complaining, just wondering how all this happens without the usual corporate marketing resources?

Perhaps there ARE some out there with a brain and an eye for quality over the lowest possible cost. Perhaps the word has spread further than I imagined about the so-called HE eco-sanctioned machines which seem to garner more negative reviews than positive. Or maybe some have better things to do that wait 1-2 hours to do laundry, spend additional $$$ on "cleaners" or are just flat out pissed off at the useless washing ability.

No one knows for sure I'll say that.

 

[jeffg]

As people get burned by $2000-$3000 W/D sets with one-year warranties, suddenly SQ looks much less expensive.

 

[mtn1584]

Word of mouth.........

whenever I hear someone say they need a new washing machine, I always ask have you ever heard of Speed Queen? Last person I helped was my brother and sister in law who were gonna go "cheap" after a five year never ending nightmare with a Kenmore Cabrio HE top loader that had more service calls than my 1991 Hyundai Excel!!! LOL
The consumer who is a savvy shopper knows what quality vs. beauty gets. The longer warranty, build quality, familiar controls and loading options are what make SQ a natural choice for many consumers now...We have had HE front loaders for ten years or so now, and I can only imagine the customers walking into stores saying I want a machine like I used to have!!
Mike

 

[mrb627]

As people get burned by $2000-$3000 W/D sets with one-year..

Well....... in the case of LG, make that a LIMITED one year warranty. So, not even full coverage! SHAMEFUL!

Malcolm

 

[nmassman44]

Well my thinking when I bought my SQ washer was it's the same inside no matter what model you buy. I did not need all the bells and whistles like I had with the POS Maytag Neppie. I didn't use most of the features on it. I wanted a machine to just work, do it's job well and get the job done. And the top of the line SQ washer at the time was a good $200 more for a two speed motor, speed selector and more cycles that I will never use. But that's me and my choice and for my wallet it fit the bill.

 

[appnut]

My sister in northern California is going to get a SQ front loader per my recommendation--she wants something simple but water efficient because of the extreme drought. They are currently dealing with an unknown Norgetag that's been nothing but frustration--that had replaced a 1986 Maytag with 3 temps, 3 water levels, and 2 cycles. She now regrets she didn't have a new transmission put in it.

 

[maytagmike]

awn412

hey fellow club members, sold my first Speed Queen Automatic washer today, the customer bought it sight unseen just looked at pictures that i had showed him on the net. 3 yrs parts and labor warranty and 15 years on the transmission can't beat it reminds me of the old Maytags I used to sell.Mike

 

[washman]

When the quality is right

the product sells itself.

 

[combo52]

SQ TL Washer Choices

On average out of every 10 SQ laundry sales we make usually, 6 are AWN412s,1 is a FL stack, 1 is a AWN432, 1 is a AWN542 and 1 is a dryer, it of coerce varies, we have now crossed the 300 mark in sales of the TL SQ.

It is much easier to sell the 412, and we even sold a lot of the 1 sp 311s till they discontinued it a year or so ago.

With a delivered-installed price of $769 for the AWN412 this washer is certainly less expensive than the average washer sold in this country.

Because we bill our company as a Green Company we recommend that customers skip the TL washers that have a full fill 2nd rinse option. I find very few customers want this feature or use it when they find out that it uses approximately 20 gallons of extra water per use coupled with all the extra wear and tear imposed on the washer when used. Over the years I bet I have disconnected several hundred 2nd rinse option switches on various brand TL washers [ either with the customers or landlords permission ].

Our water is just hard enough here that extra rinsing usually ends leaving clothing less soft because of the extra minerals left behind in the absence of detergent to suspend and carry them away.

 

[billiedyer1954]

extra rinse

I do like my 432, but I need the extra rinse. I dose the detergent very sparingly but still get a lot of suds in the first rinse. I have used different detergents with the same results. this is the first machine I have had that does this. it is the only disappointment I have with this washer. this washer does get my husbands work uniforms spotless and they are coated in thick grease, diesel fuel, dirt,mud and general filth. we have hard water, for me the cloths are softer with a second rinse because the detergent is rinsed away.i have been washing cloths for 42 years and have had 7 machines, some of them used. my favorite was a used 60s whirlpool.

 

[jeffg]

"I have used different detergents with the same results."

Buy a jug of Charlie's Laundry Powder and use as directed. It's a low-suds formula and will remove accumulated detergent (and other residues) from your clothes.

Forcing a warm water rinse once in a while (preferably always) on the machine will also help remove accumulated residues. Many or most of today's laundry problems, everything from stiff and stinky towels to dingy whites, are a direct result of cold water rinsing.