big Problems with Candy/Hoover in Germany

[mielemondia757]

Hey guys,
I do not know whether you know it, but in Germany we have massive Problems with really much Candy and Hoover washers

look at this

all washers explode with the same drum and at 1400 or 1600rpm
thats really dangoures

 

[mielemondia757]

here an other candy

this one was explode when a women was near the washer

 

[mielemondia757]

This one is a Hoover

Im sorry, I would pst it at deluxe, but i don´t know why I posting here...

 

[mielemondia757]

OHBOY look at this...
you see the motor there... realy small

 

[superelectronic]

We've seen these pictures before - someone else posted them earlier in the year.

Still a shocking state of affairs. Something about a faulty drum weld as I recall.

What is the latest news as of now?

Interesting to see inside the machines, albeit in their mangled state!

 

[solsburian]

This is also starting to happen with some Indesit/Hotpoint machines as well.

 

[nrones]

Old, history stuff! Maybe that"s why it"s on "mo

There were about 3 threads, and this is 4th... happend on few machines (just repeating same pictures) only in Germany, and not on all Candy"s in Germany-just a few of them.
Also it happend to Indesit company, And Servis/Ardo/EBD... but ofcourse you will have a nice smart explanation that will tell that Candy is the only one dangerous..
Thank god this stupid case is a history now, and Candy/Hoover products (I know some guys will be sad) is getting more and more positive reviews. (go to www.reevoo.com www.appliance-reviews.co.uk , or comet website and see reviews)
By the way here is a picture of a Studio that you had (or still have?)

 

[nrones]

@superelectronic

Ofcourse there are no recent news about this.. Maybe nobody would know about it if it didn"t happend at Stiftung warenttest laboratory..
And don"t worry about your paren"ts OPH616 --- it"s not affected aswell as 100000"s Candy/Hoover washers.

 

[solsburian]

Indesit/Hotpoint are apparently fitting securing braces to thier models that are at risk, this is supposed to fix the issue (that remains to be seen). What are Candy doing with their models that are at risk?

 

[nrones]

Candy made a warning on their website, and anyone with Candy machine can call to check (even they know it"s only few affected machines). Checkup is compleatly free.
But I think they stopped doing that, since probobly no case was reported, and months passed...

 

[solsburian]

That's good, as far as I know Indesit only released information on their affected models via a tech bulletin that was then leaked.

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2533

 

[3beltwesty]

201 stainless basket maybe with poor weld

The basket on these FL washers are typically today made from 201 stainless. It is a low cost stainless that the raw sheets can be buffed to a high polish. It is not the greatest stainless to weld. 201 stainless is "sort of" a lower cost version of traditional 301 stainless; but with less nickel.

http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets.../stainless/.../201_Data_Sheet.pdf

 

[3beltwesty]

another 201 stainless pdf

another 201 stainless pdf

http://www.alleghenytechnologies.com/.../Why%20Make%20the%20Switchpdf.pdf

 

[solsburian]

Coincidentally, Hotpoint have recently transitioned from using a screwed drum to the standard Indesit welded drum.

 

[nrones]

Lol I know all about washing machines, except their built (well, I am rating it by experience).
So I think this is a very basic question, but what is screwed, and what is welded drum?

 

[aegokocarat]

I used to own a candy nova dishwasher it was junk!!!. it never washed the dishes well and left particals on the plates and bowls it died in 2008 due to circut failiur and lo and behold i now have a zanussi zdf 131 essentials dishwasher.

 

[solsburian]

@nrones:

My mistake, I'm getting my terms mixed up, I believe the terms screw and welded refer to how the outer tub is assembled.

The older Hotpoint drums have a different drum seam to the Candy and Indesit drums. I’m assuming that the seams could be a weak part in the drum and that could be what’s causing these problems.

 

[favorit]

Candy never produced quality machines

Dex, I don't want to be rude ... but Candy has ever had low pricing as a battlehorse. While other italian manufacturers were used to produce quality but not inexpensive machines - I' m thinking of Ignis, Rex, Zoppas, Triplex and obviously the best one Sangiorgio - Candy never followed this path. Have to admit current Candy machines are far better than the baffle-less rubbish they produced in the seventies.

Look at my link, there's a still working vintage italian made Sangiorgio machine. It is 45 years old and has no sign of rust. It is better built than contemporary Miele machines : its outer tub is not welded but bolted as if it were a pressure water tank ... not a case it weights 130 Kg.

Not to mention that 800 rpm spin : in 1964 Miele washers could only dream about it !!

 

[nrones]

True, but still wired

I don"t know much about 70s and 80s Candy"s. I know that the first Candys from 60s were fine.. and ones like Aquaviva from 90s were AWESOME. My gran still has one of those, and I never seen a washing machine that washes better! When I had my EXCLUSIVE 5000 clothes were shiny white, and it was working for 13years (then it broke beyound repair). I also know that first Candy dishwasher (ones that have 2 doors) were awesome at washing, my gran used to have it from 1975-2001 when sth broke.
But still there"s one thing Candy does--price! It has never been price competitive to others... you pay the same price for less features.. quality isn"t outstanding, but it is being sold everywhere, constantly! There must be something we don"t see, because for now I think that people look for features, or money
That Sangiorgio is impressing!