Boilwash

[marthalover4eve]

does doing boil-washes make the bearings brake??

what i got my WMA48 the bearings were sweet and i did boil-wash week in week out ( when i clean my hamster cage i use spray and use cloths and tea-towels so they need boiling now i use ariel bio + vanish hygiene so now i wash them at 40 ) and the bearing has gone slightly noisy

+ i do 3 boilwashs in a school week my bedding , school shirts , towels

so i just thought ide ask

+ is my indesit have a metal tub or plastic as my old indesit washer / dryer i had in my shed had a metal tub. thanks

 

[aegokocarat]

My hotpoint aqualtis has done a total of 3423 boilwashes since new in 2006
my candy has done 3 boilwashes (it doesnt get used much, only when i have small loads, large wash piles or handwash only garments need washing)
and the barings are fine in boath machines
the barings were more or less on theyr way out when you got it.
washer dryer need to have a metal tub to withstand the heat from the heating element, but washer only midels just have a standard plastic tub (except for miele,asko,older machies,ect)
Tom

 

[ultimafan]

I've never seen a connection with bearing failure and bo

I've always associated bearing failure with overloading and spin speeds, there's even been rumours that the liquid detergents have had some liability too! Boil washes are better for a machine IMO, as a low temp introduces mould, which is also bad.

Most washing machines have plastic tubs nowadays, I think it may only be Miele with metal tubs.

 

[dj-gabriele]

Miele has no metal tubs anymore in consumer machines but fiber glass/plastic tubs.
The only machines that I know in current production with metal tubs are the 5kg SMEG washing machines and Washer-dryers and those are going to go very soon as they're updating their line.

Anyway, at home I regularly do boil-washes for kitchen stuff and that never ever gave me problems!

 

[solsburian]

The Bosch and Siemens water condensing washer dryers still have a metal outer tub too.

I only do boil washes when doing a monthly maintenance wash.

 

[lavamat_jon]

Miele still have stainless steel tubs, it's only the American giant machines that have the fibreglass tubs...

Jon

 

[ronhic]

ASKO still have stainless steel tubs too.

http://www.asko.com.au/why-asko/asko-washers/drum-quality/

 

[launderess]

Miele Only Introduced Fiberglass Outer Tubs

For the North American market (mainly the USA) because they got tired of trying to wean those customers off the use of chlorine bleach.

After years of refusing to budge on the matter and claiming the high temps, oxygen bleach and excellent washing action would suffice, Miele gave way. Indeed the North American washers are the only one's I've seen directions given for the use of LCB

 

[iheartmaytag]

When I was looking for a new machine, I do believe the Speed Queen front loaders have a metal outer tub. At least they did.

 

 

[superelectronic]

"...a total of 3423 boilwashes since new in 2006"

Tom, are you running a hospital laundry? The Aqualtis seems to have been doing two boil washes daily! By rights it should be in a skip by now

! At last calculation, my 15 year-old machine has done fewer cycles in its entire service life...and only about 30 of those have been boil washes: I've never really seen the need for them in my circumstances. Maybe I'm just grubby though?

 

I can see the rationale behind boilwashing being hard on a machine: it should be the longest, most intensive programme going, and the longer it's on, the more it's wearing itself out!

 

Still, for pure washer enthusiast enjoyment, nothing quite beats working up a head of steam and putting it through its paces!

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

 

[aegokocarat]

lol! no Alex, not hospital laundry, but what i would call "bomb feild washing"
simply meaning that my brother takes a bath god knows how many times a day and me and mum normaly find bits of his washing loling around in his room (eww!)
i may be a young teenager my self but my laundy standards are high lol
normaly machines in this house reach 3 years old max before theyt get binned, my hotpoint is like a cheap version of a miele!
Tom

 

[hotpointfan]

We do about 8 - 9 loads a day!

So the Bosch's replacement (if their is one) must be bloody well built!

How are you all?

Jacob

 

[superelectronic]

HOW is that possible? I mean...HOW???

How many people must you have in the family to wash 8-9 times daily?

 

Frankly, the mind boggles with the possible scenarios but none of them are suitable for the public domain.

 

If I were to be outrageously judgemental, I'd say you all must have OCD and should seek councilling. Fortunately, it's really none of my business

! I can only hope your families are sufficiently well-off enough to afford what must be huge electricity bills.

 

May you all continue enjoy your intensive laundry schedules; it must be fun!

 

Alex

 

[aegokocarat]

only 4 lol!
slowly its going down!!
my brother is going into the army so less washing

 

[hotpointfan]

There are...

... me, my mum, my dad and a sister and lots of guinea pigs and rabbits. The thing is, me and my mum cuddle our pets a lot, so our clothes and the towels we use for cuddles constantly need washing because my dad is allergic to the hairs. I am also a bit of a clean freak and my bedding is changed between once a week!

Jacob

 

[gorenje]

I always wash my whites @ 95°C ("Boilwash") with no problems

Ingemar

 

[optima]

Mostly wash whites at 60deg but once a month i wash at 90deg. The reason i don't wash at 90deg more often is the fact that the Hoover 90deg wash has a pre-set 40deg pre-wash before which is not needed.

 

[dascot]

There's no way with that number of people and animals that it should lead to 8-9 washes per day... But, well, you do what you do I guess.

Have never had any trouble with boil washes causing problems for a machine. I don't use them all the time, but do occasional ones.

 

[haxisfan]

Hum... can I call a 70 degree cycle a boilwash?

I seldomly do a boilwash... meaning... a 90 degree wash cycle. But I often use 70 degree wash cycles which seem more than adequate for my needs. I usually do that with fast-colour towels and white cotton sheets. Besides, I don't see any advantage on raising the temperature above 70... it's just a waste of electricity and water (the machine does a wasteful cooldown with that temperature).

Cheerio

 

[pierreandreply4]

boil wash is bad for clothes

i would say that boil wash for clothes is bad and second of all its wasting electricety in my point of view if you really went to save on your electric bill you should wash only in cold water and a cooldown on a wash load is not bad its to prevent wrinkles on the clothes me if i have to wash in warm water witch in other word is my bedding my washer do a cooldown that way it protects the fabric all perm press cycles(casual) on some washer do a cooldown to protect fabrics.

 

[aegokocarat]

Boilwashes are good for the machine and clothes!!!

 

[launderess]

"Boilwashes are good for the machine and clothes"

While there may be some benefits for the washing machine, routine high temperature laundering greatly shortens the lifespan of most textiles/garments sold today. This is one reason many do not like sending their better things much less their finest textiles to commercial laundries.

By their nature most commercial laundries use very high wash temps (>160F)and or harsh detergents and bleaches not only to ensure soil removal but to add measure of hygiene due to laundering varied persons articles in the same wash.

Years ago linens, shirts and such were designed and produced to withstand frequent boiling washes. This would include running up articles much larger than required to compensate for shrinkage, as well as using sturdy weaves that could not only take hard laundering but the ironing that surely followed. For instance bed linens were usually heavy linen or cotton muslin.

 

[hoovermatic]

8-9 washes a day!!

When there were 6 of us living at home and my brother playing football everyday and Mum regularly washing the whole team kit as well as school uniform and her all the regular clothes she never did 8 or 9 washes a day. It's just mad, definitely OCD and sheer weate, but hey, it's your money or rather, your parents! I am amazed they allow it!

 

[aquarius1984]

Hoovermatic

Yes I was also wondering. Their money or parents money? Quite often see things like "My new Bosch Iron" or "Jumped in the back of my car" or "My somethingorother". Very amused at how such things belonging to Mothers and Fathers are made out to be belongings of children.

Makes me wonder if we have folk lying about their ages and are actually adults earning a wage to afford such things or a bunch of what would of been described as 'Jumped up' kids in my day.

Either way im finding less and less reason to enter the Deluxe forum to read and to be fair finding less reasons to post in Vintage due to the fact im sick of having photos and videos taken by kids who cant even give a token word of thanks when they re post them in their silly youtube videos or uncalled for threads and give credit to the actual person who owns them! Its now a world where the elders owe the kids everyting it seems.

 

[aegokocarat]

Yeh but that bosch iron acually is MINE Rob, my mum gave it to me as she preferd her old black and decker iron, i use the bosch iron to give items that i have made on MY sewing machine a nice neat fininsh.
(carries on ironing)
also keep your eyes peeld as i am changing my lolcat to somthing that showas i dont really give a damn aboiut what people say

 

[MrX]

Think of the environment!

I know some of you really like doing laundry, but please spare a thought for the environment!

8 or 9 washes a day is a vast amount of detergent, water and electricity that really is being used unnecessarily.

Not only is it bad for the environment, it's also very bad for whoever is paying the electricity bill's bank account!

You'll also wear out and destroy clothes unnecessarily. No washing machine or detergent combination is utterly harmless to clothes. Every wash takes some colour out (dye bleed) and damages / weaken the fibres.

If you are managing your laundry correctly, you should be trying to minimise the number of washes you do, not maximising them.

Sort your colours / fabric types.
Fill your machine to capacity.
Wash on the lowest temp that you can get away with.

I find a lot of the stories of stinking machines etc a bit odd.
We run our machine maybe once every 2 days or so, it usually washes at 40ºC and we have never had any of these mould / mildew problems and our clothes are perfectly clean.

 

[pierreandreply4]

me in my case the main reason i wash in cold water is to protect the enviroment because (i have read on the internet that frequant washing in hot water raise the risk of global warming of of the earth{*off topic for a sec here}) if you need to do a boil or hot water wash maybe you should do this only when its nesecary and if you need to do a wash load maybe use cold water temp cool water temp(depending on washer model) or a warm water wash and do boil wash loads occasanaly like for explem after someone is sick to kill the germs or when you have something that needs to be bleach.

 

[zanussi_lover]

I do 30*c

I only do about one wash a week =]

and I wash at 30*c with one biological tablet (Almat Bio)

i use this for whites and colours, my darks have limited fading, and my whites are nice and bright.

sheets and towels get 40*c and on occasion the odd 60*c wash, I dont have allergies, and i change my sheets and towels regularly. my towels dont smell of mildew or come out smelling damp when washed at 40*c. I use a Biological Tablet with Bleach in it, which helps remove the odours.

I dont use the tumble dryer either, i dry my clothes outside on a clothes horse, everything smells nice and fresh

I reckon you only need a 60*c wash if your washing heavily soiled items like teatowels (kitchen) and really dirty clothes. 40*c is more than adequate or even 30*c for darks or colours.

Think of saving energy...and the planet =]

 

[ronhic]

I only do about one wash a week =]

How on earth do you get away with that and still wear fresh underwear, socks daily not to mention shirts, jeans/trousers/outer tops and washing of towels/ sheets?

 

When single, I would do an average of 3-4 loads a week (lights and darks every 2 weeks...towels every 10 days with whites and sheets weekly).  Admittedly, that was a smaller machine, but I do 5 loads weekly for us with a 6.5kg machine.....

 

But then, maybe you wash your towels and bed linen monthly?

 

[pierreandreply4]

me in my case i wash everyday and once a month i wash my bed sheets but i wash them in warm water as my bed sheets are non bleachable and when i go back to a toploading washer here are the wash and rinse temp that i will use normal cycle i will use cold water wash 1 light and no colored clothes cool water temp and bedding warm water i will never use or select the hot water temp unless absolutely needed like recovering from a cold to kill the germ cold other wise the temps i will use are cold water wash cool water wash warm water wash with cold rinse.