Bosch New Line for 2011/2012

[glenfieldmathk1]

I have been looking around the German Bosch website today, and came across Bosch at the IFA, information for Press.
I was looking through and came across some fantastic new line of Bosch Washing Machines.
I don't know much information about them, and I am suspecting they will Launch in Germany in September, though here in the UK we will get them next April/May? They look very similar to the American Vision Line, with Hoover/Electrolux time manager display!
Let me know what you think of them, and in terms of quality they look very well built.
There are more Photos on the Link.
Enjoy

This photo is Model WAY32840 Washing Machine, with i-Dos.

http://www.bosch-home.com/de/presse...e-um-anspruchsvolle-homeprofessional-baureihe

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

This Photo is the dryer:
Model WTY88700, with Heat pump & Self cleaning condenser

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

And now the non i-Dos washing machine:
WAY32740 (as you can see the i-Dos buttons have been replaced with Auto Stain removal)

(I wonder what the Siemens will be like)
Please post your comments on these, and opinions

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

I suppose the Title of the Forum should have been 2011-2012-2013
as in the UK we may get them April/May 2012-April/May 2013!

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

An Attempt to copy Miele...???

... After reading Further and translating, It reads they have new Stuffed animals & Shoes cycles, and the new motor design allows for improved agitation and longer spins at full speed. Plus it comes with 10 years warranty, like Miele.
Miele also recently added stuffed animals & Shoes, plus Miele offers 10 Years Warranty!

 

[logixx]

These are pretty much the same as last year's models - nothing too exiting. New display and drum LED light on both the washer and the dryer and new doors. The dryer now also has speedPerfect. A full 8kg load spun at 1000 rpm takes 170 minutes to dry using ecoPerfect - wow. But these dryers are very energy efficient indeed and have an "improved cooling system" - whatever that means. Interestingly, the manual says to actually rinse the two lint filters as part of the regular cleaning. There is also now a 45 cm dishwasher with varioSpeed, 3rd rack and longer upper (middle) rack. A second spray arm was added under the rack so they could make it longer.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

I have seen those dishwashers as well, and think they are wonderful! I suspect two arms is more powerfull isn't it?

Plus I have seen the new Siemens Tumble dryer on the IFA Berlin website, and it is rated A-60%! New washers are on there as well.

 

[aquarius8000]

Now they look good!

 

[aegokocarat]

awful!! i perefer the current styling, i hope siemens stay the same

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

@aegokocarat

Siemens have changed as well, Though they still look a bit more like the old ones, just a light up dial, and a new door, with no handle to open it! Plus another new display, but its much more like the older ones! The Siemens ones state IQ900, so I am suspecting the current IQ700 - the ones which you like with current styling may stay or be modified a little.

Siemens machine pictured(non iDos)
Link to IFA Berlin and Siemens Description

http://www.virtualmarket.ifa-berlin...533216&compact=0&path=Home&Action=showProduct

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Siemens Heat Pump dryer
Just thought I would get the photo of the A-60% Dryer!

Seems to have the Dynamic wash load direction they use on the washing machinesMaybe that's the trick to getting there A-60% (Bosch's are A-50%)

http://www.virtualmarket.ifa-berlin...set=10&compact=0&path=Home&Action=showProduct

 

[aegokocarat]

if i had that siemens dryer my mam would deffinantly have more bridget jones moments with it lol

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Oh why's that?

????

 

[aegokocarat]

she is more used to a traditional timed dryer, yesterday she dident close the dryer door and she hit the start button and it bleeped and dident start so i closed teh door and then it started, she is still getting used to it

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

oh right
Ok then.
My Mums the same with our Hotpoint VTD20, she thinks the end of cycle circle is the sensor drying circle, i have told her lots of times, but she always dopes it, then says 'the dryers not working'
Thanks for responding

I would suspect these Siemens/Bosch would tell you if the door is open as they have LCD displays not LED ones

 

[aegokocarat]

my dryer has an lcd screen, and if the door is open and you press start it will beep twice and the numbers on the screen will flash

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Oh I thought the Heat pump ones had an LED Screen just on a orange background. Obviously I was wrong, well I think the new ones instead of flash will actually say on the screen 'Door open' or 'Door not closed'

 

[logixx]

This would be the new 45cm dishwasher. The spray arm is called DuoPower - I hoped for something along the lines of AEG's oscillating spray arm but... Oh well. It also features the brushless EcoSilence Drive and takes 10 place settings.

 

[logixx]

Yes, about the new motor on the washers: it's called EcoSilence Drive with BLDC technology and inverter technology. The dryer has a better door seal and design to further prevent lint for transferring onto the load when unloading and an improved filter that is "even more gentle to the laundry".

By the way, the A-60 % must be a type: both Bosch's and Siemens' homepages say the dryers are rated at A-50%.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

It might be a typo!

what does BLDC mean? (Quieter, stronger)?

As for the dishwasher, that looks truly amazing, and great for space saving, small kitchens

As for looking at the manual for the Bosch washing machine, I am surprised the Towels cycle only allows 3.5KG. I would have thought it would have at least 5KG. Maybe they are still experimenting with that load size-I am sure 3.5KG would surely create more unbalanced spins with such a big drum.

Maybe like Miele they can perform PC updates, so they could add more programmes in future (to the More[Weitre]programmes)-that would be a good idea!

 

[dave886]

i like them the design, its very sleek, and it looks like its built to last but i can tell these going to cost a bomb

 

[ariston4life]

i want that bosch washer... and ive never been that impressed with bosch but as soon as i seen the first photo of the thread i was like WOW....

 

[passatdoc]

Bosch DW have a very large market share here. They sell much better than Miele, not only because of the more moderate price, but because the perception here is that it is much, much easier to find parts and qualified service. Americans will shy away from brands (mostly from overseas) if it's hard to find qualified service repair companies. Bosch is commonplace enough that major discounters such as Best Buy and Lowes sell Bosch DWs.

Not so for the washers. I think Lowes sells them, but they are not as common here as Bosch DWs. A previous generation of 70 cm (US sized) washers received poor reviews and did not sell very well. I also have several friends with Bosch wall ovens who HATE them (seven year old oven has needed four service calls, etc.) and regret having purchased them, but even they will be the first to say that Bosch makes superb DW. Their reputation here is that they have perfected DW technology, but their quality in other appliances is not always so outstanding. Note: their Euro sized washers here enjoy a good reputation, so you'll see them in areas like New York City, with many apartments where laundry must be in the kitchen, but Euro size is not as popular when the home has a US-sized dedicated laundry area.

 

[rolls_rapide]

BLDC

Might mean "Brushless Direct Current" motor.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

@ariston4life Yes I agree with you, as soon as I seen it I was like, wow-so much better designed than the last ones

@passatdoc Yes, here in the UK DW's have a larger market as well, Bosch sell more dishwasher choice than there washer choice
I love American style laundry, but here in the UK/EU we tend to stick with smaller models in the kitchen/Bathroom! Hence the smaller footprint, and quite large, but much smaller than US, capacity!

@rolls_rapide I suspect so!

You can download instructions for the washing machine by typing in WAY (yes just WAY) into Bosch's instruction manual section of their website. Link below

http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/customer-service/download-product-manuals.html

 

[lavamat_jon]

Nice to see Bosch have returned to the old fashioned instruction booklets!

 

[mieledani]

Where are these machines made?

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

@mieldani

I suspect Germany!
Who Knows-though I suspect the Siemens is certainly made in Germany.

 

[mieledani]

The question is: Is it possible to buy here in Spain a Bosch or a Siemens machine made in Germany (not in Spain)?

I'm afraid that I prefer machines made in Germany!!!

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Good question. I don't really know, I suspect they will all be made in Spain, though Could be they are made in Germany and Imported. I know some in Germany are made in Spain-so maybe some made in Germany are sold in Spain!