Bosch vs Vtg KitchenAid Dishwasher

[appnut]

Yes, Stephanie is a wise woman. I've had my Bosch since May, 2021 and I am stil amazed at what I put in there that comes out clean that's been BobLoaded. 96% of the time I simply use Auto & Crystal Dry. I also enabled the Intensive Dry option. My model is part of the Bosch 800+ series. I wanted Crystal Dry and the MyWay rack. I'm in the minority that doesn't want the cutlery 3rd rack. But it's simply because I have cerebral palsey and I have to really focus at times to put flatware in the small area that's set aside for flatwarek that I see as no different than having a total rack for cutlery. Just too difficult for me, which I figured would be a problem for me before purchase. Main reason why I opposed the cutlery rack design.

 

[sarahperdue]

Bosch

It's hard to let go of the Bosch when I'm thinking modern. Mine cleans Bob certified loads like a boss. Bruce likes that it's quiet. I can see where the plate racks might be a bit tight for American styled dishes, but my Centura coupe fits perfectly. 

 

Sarah

 

[chachp]

Who would repair the BOSCH in your primary home?

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">Is that an option for the house you are doing?  I don't know how far apart they are.  </span>

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">In my opinion the KA 18 - 20 series machines are not really that difficult to work on.  If you went with Mark's suggestion of an 18 series up to maybe the 20 series you could still stock pile many of the parts needed to keep them going.  I am not really all that technical and I have learned much about these machines on this site.  It wouldn't address your sound concerns but the look would be closer to what you would want.</span>

 

[Marky_Mark]

The other thing to consider is that the KDS-18 only makes noise for 37 minutes on the normal cycle and then it's on to the fan-forced drying, for a total cycle time of 67 minutes.  Soak'N Scrub adds an additional 41 minutes to that.  Of course a Bosch or a new KA will be much quieter and a lot easier to buy!  Whatever you decide, it doesn't have to be forever -- it's pretty easy to swap one dishwasher for another.  I think a KDS-18, new Bosch and new KA are all great choices.  It just depends on your priorities.  Personally I love owning and using my vintage dishwashers but if noise is a major concern, go with the Bosch or new KA.

 

Mark

 

[firedome]

modern choices...

we thought about a new Bosch but the local dealer who sells them as well as KA/WP syas he's had major issues getting parts for machines more than a couple years old and they have considerably more problems than some other machines. It was true for our son's M-I-L, nothing but problems with her Bosch, she did like the quietness but finally got tired of dealing with it.
My opinion is that a lot of Bosch and Miehle owners don't like to admit that their expensive machines are anything less than wonderful, perhaps on the theory of sunk cost investment fallacy they hang on to them. KA gets my vote, new or vintage.

 

[mattl]

Many in my family have Bosch DWs and there has been zero issues.  I have near TOL KA and have had zero issues also. I'd have no problem heartily recommending either.

 

[petek]

To be blunt I don't buy the bullshit "my repairman said don't buy X ". I haven't had a problem with my Bosch Ascenta and my next door neighbor hasn't had a problem with her Bosch 500 series. When I did have that self caused problem when our LG washer was new I did ask the repair guy what he thought was the best was the most reliable brand of washer and he said "any one with an extended warranty" Now that's being truthful.

 

[norgeway]

Well...

I hate to admit anything new is ok,,,BUT Donald decided i needed all new appliances, So we got fairly high end GE stuff, and i have to admit, while i like the quickness of a old dishwasher, and the old Kitchen Aids did dry better than anything,,,This new dishwasher is a joy, its easy to load, the third silverware rack is the best thing ever, and it cleans perfectly, Its slow but its quiet, I truly have no real complaints.

 

[jamiel]

Bosch racks are perfect for Centura coupe/Corelle. Lots of capacity for both dinner plates and side plates/saucers. The NYT did a review comparing dishwashers, and said essentially that Bosch is best but Whirlpool brands are very slightly behind but may work better if you have more dished/Pfaltzgraff type dishware.

Moral of the story is take your dishes to the store and test fit them. Nothing more irritating than stuff not fitting where it's logical/intended.

 

[vacerator]

Some newer

Kitchen Aids in stainless with the tiny slit vent on the top door edge have develped rust around the vent. One lady said hers was 6 months old. When she called them they told her it was because she wasn't using the heated dry option. Well, she said anyway.

 

[circlew]

KitchenAid rust

Stainless steel shouldn't rust under normal conditions if it is good quality. Sounds like they may be using an inferior grade, such as 400 series instead of 304 or 316.

 

[sudsmaster]

I've had a KA SxS fridge for about 24 years. No rust on the stainless doors.

 

Then again, no magnet will stick to the doors, either.

 

 

[beefsquatch]

We wanted to keep the look of the original dishwasher in our kitchen, but wanted a new Bosch. So we combined the two, the best of both worlds.

 

[chachp]

Reply #31

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">Wow that really looks great.  If you didn't know that could pass for the original!!  Nice job.</span>

 

[sudsmaster]

Kind of hard to tell which is which...

 

 

[jakeseacrest]

That is so awesome. Great job!

 

[gizmo]

Wow that is clever. I'm impressed.

 

[sarahperdue]

wow!

How did you do it?

Sarah

 

[beefsquatch]

We took the panel off the new Bosch and sent it an automotive paint shop along with the original panel so they could match the paint.
Once painted we were able to fit the chrome trim and tap some screws into the sides.
It really wasn't too much work.
No need to worry about the controls since they were all hidden on top.
Luckily the chrome trim didn't cover them.

 

[chachp]

I love that...

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">It reminds me just a little of the old Pull Out Westinghouse dishwasher because the front doesn't have the break in it.  In Episode 1, Season 1 it looks Laura Petrie had a Westinghouse kitchen.  That changed in Episode 2.  </span>

[this post was last edited: 4/19/2023-13:29]