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This afternoon, in the middle of a nasty snow I met Jerry(moparwash) to pick up a new to me washer, it fit snugly in the back of my new to me Taurus wagon.

It's an overall nice Lady Kenmore.

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DD or BD?

Is this machine one of the belt-drive machines, or the infamous "Shredmore" line of machines?

 

As for the hoses, provided KM/WP used a standard hose size in manufacturing the machine, you should be able to visit a local hardware store and get these for the washer. The water inlet hoses themselves will definitely be easy enough to get a hold of, but I think the drain hose might give you grief.

Another expert might chime in and report about that...

 

But congratulations on acquiring this machine! It looks like its in good shape for its age and is hopefully mechanically sound. That said, any repair should be pretty cheap and is bound to keep the machine running for years. These washers will last longer than any junk made today, thats for sure!
 
Congratulations on getting that machine.

That's definitely a belt drive machine that's loaded with lots of cycle options. Looks to be a fully loaded machine for that time period. To bad they pulled the dispenser out of it. You should be able to track one down and get the dispenser up and running again.

For the drain hoses you should be able to pick them up at any local hardware store. If they don't have a suds saver hose you could just add an extension to a second drain hose and use that. Just be sure you make the extension the correct length to reach the bottom of the sink your using to save your suds in.

Those machines were made to last a lifetime.
 
I've always liked ...

... the way the Lady Kenmores used to open to the side, allowing the user full access to the control panel even while it was wide open.

For that matter, I've also always liked the way the Lady Kenmore dryers used to open like oven doors, too.
 
Congratulations on a nice save Sam - and congrats to the machine as well for landing in the clutches of an interested collector!

Your machine was made in the 30th week of 1984. It is unit number 01729, so it was made early in the week.

That stinks that the dispenser is completely gone. We'll need to find out how the person did the dispenser-echtomy so we can help you get it re-assembled, that is if you want it back. I would be curious to know what the person did with the detergent valve solenoid under the machine, as well as the plumbing from the lower half of the pump.

I hope you enjoy the washer, they're pretty fun!

Gordon
 
Great find. Those Lady Kenmores were something special. Too bad about the disassembled dispenser. I hope you can find whatever is missing to get this up and running as it was when new.
 
Yes Jerry the roads were terrible, it was not a fun ride home.

There was an appliance repair sticker on the console I'm wondering if they were the ones to remove the dispenser.
I'm not concerned about the dispenser as I wouldn't put detergent in the dispenser and I never use fabric softener. A bleach dispenser would have been nice though

I just need to get drain hoses
Just curious which opening on the rear is the drain and which is for suds return?
 
That arrangement with the drain ports and the hose going from one to the other on the rear looks really odd to me. I wonder if the suds was a field retrofit.
 
Not a field retrofit

This machine was built as a suds model. The "suds" setting at the bottom of the cycle graphics just left of the Delicate cycle is pure factory for suds models. Non-suds machines had a solid "OFF" section there. Also, the model number is another give-away, as 110.83392100 is a suds machine, whereas 110.82392100 is the non-suds variant.

The service panel on the rear with the cut-out for the suds valve is another clue. This machine was born a suds model, but I don't know about the use of that loop hose going from the suds valve. We don't have a lot of suds model washers in the South due mostly to the lack of basements and lack of laundry sinks, thus we don't come across suds machines very often to work on.

Gordon
 
Mark -

Look at the console pic again - imagine the timer knob is pointing 180 degrees directly south, the suds return phase is there. It is a vertical indication. Look immediately to the right of the Pre-Soak cycle.

This is for suds return. The machine always diverted rinse water through a different hose than wash water, by that I mean it always behaved as though the user wanted to store wash water, so there is no separate suds save function.

Gordon
 
Gordon

Your eyes are better than mine in these low-quality pics! You are correct!
I had been looking at the knobs and switches only. You are our resident Kenmore pro!
Thanks

Properly hosed up and running, that's one heck of a fun machine.
 
Suds on timer

Just as Gordon dscribed. The feature was always there--just not identified. Every Kenmore I came across with and played with, had that "dead space" that actually functioned.
 
Sam,

Since all the Kenmore's I've ever seen run their drain hoses out of the corner location I would bet that it still would be the same. The hose port that's in the center of the back is the one that would operate as the suds hose. The suds hose has a longer tail piece on it that reaches down almost to the bottom of the sink (except for maybe the last inch to allow sediment to settle while waiting to be re-used) giving it the ability to draw the water back into the machine when it's set for that. If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could just use two reg. drain hoses into the same sink.

For your piece of mind- make sure the suds hose and the reg. drain hose are connected before you run the machine for the first time. The suds hose is used for draining the wash water. It also returns it to the machine when you use the suds saver. The other hose operates for all the other drain functions.
If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could use 2 reg. drain hoses but if you plan on using it then-
The suds hose needs to drain into a stationery tub the has enough capacity to hold what the washer empties from a full tub of water. The other hose can be put into a standpipe or another sink which won't interfere with your suds saving.
 
John's Frankenmore has that loop of hose going outside the cabinet. I think he told me that the large capacity machines did not have room for the usual arrangement of the hoses inside. The one thing I liked about Maytags from long ago when I hated all of them was the save or drain suds option so that you could drain the suds without using a tub; not so the WP-made washers.
 

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