Now THATS a Lady Kn-NOT a SHREDMORE!!!Thats a nice deluxe one-hope the dispensor can be replaced.Neat find-and it fit in a Taurus?
Bringing home a Lady
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Nice looking machine!
The dispenser will turn up!
Hope you post pics when she up an running... And saving suds!
The dispenser will turn up!
Hope you post pics when she up an running... And saving suds!
xraytech
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Yes Jerry the roads were terrible, it was not a fun ride home.
There was an appliance repair sticker on the console I'm wondering if they were the ones to remove the dispenser.
I'm not concerned about the dispenser as I wouldn't put detergent in the dispenser and I never use fabric softener. A bleach dispenser would have been nice though
I just need to get drain hoses
Just curious which opening on the rear is the drain and which is for suds return?
There was an appliance repair sticker on the console I'm wondering if they were the ones to remove the dispenser.
I'm not concerned about the dispenser as I wouldn't put detergent in the dispenser and I never use fabric softener. A bleach dispenser would have been nice though
I just need to get drain hoses
Just curious which opening on the rear is the drain and which is for suds return?
cornutt
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That arrangement with the drain ports and the hose going from one to the other on the rear looks really odd to me. I wonder if the suds was a field retrofit.
Not a field retrofit
This machine was built as a suds model. The "suds" setting at the bottom of the cycle graphics just left of the Delicate cycle is pure factory for suds models. Non-suds machines had a solid "OFF" section there. Also, the model number is another give-away, as 110.83392100 is a suds machine, whereas 110.82392100 is the non-suds variant.
The service panel on the rear with the cut-out for the suds valve is another clue. This machine was born a suds model, but I don't know about the use of that loop hose going from the suds valve. We don't have a lot of suds model washers in the South due mostly to the lack of basements and lack of laundry sinks, thus we don't come across suds machines very often to work on.
Gordon
This machine was built as a suds model. The "suds" setting at the bottom of the cycle graphics just left of the Delicate cycle is pure factory for suds models. Non-suds machines had a solid "OFF" section there. Also, the model number is another give-away, as 110.83392100 is a suds machine, whereas 110.82392100 is the non-suds variant.
The service panel on the rear with the cut-out for the suds valve is another clue. This machine was born a suds model, but I don't know about the use of that loop hose going from the suds valve. We don't have a lot of suds model washers in the South due mostly to the lack of basements and lack of laundry sinks, thus we don't come across suds machines very often to work on.
Gordon
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Yeah, weird suds set-up. I enlarged the console pic, nothing mentions suds save or return at all.
Yeah, weird suds set-up. I enlarged the console pic, nothing mentions suds save or return at all.
Mark -
Look at the console pic again - imagine the timer knob is pointing 180 degrees directly south, the suds return phase is there. It is a vertical indication. Look immediately to the right of the Pre-Soak cycle.
This is for suds return. The machine always diverted rinse water through a different hose than wash water, by that I mean it always behaved as though the user wanted to store wash water, so there is no separate suds save function.
Gordon
Look at the console pic again - imagine the timer knob is pointing 180 degrees directly south, the suds return phase is there. It is a vertical indication. Look immediately to the right of the Pre-Soak cycle.
This is for suds return. The machine always diverted rinse water through a different hose than wash water, by that I mean it always behaved as though the user wanted to store wash water, so there is no separate suds save function.
Gordon
Gordon
Your eyes are better than mine in these low-quality pics! You are correct!
I had been looking at the knobs and switches only. You are our resident Kenmore pro!
Thanks
Properly hosed up and running, that's one heck of a fun machine.
Your eyes are better than mine in these low-quality pics! You are correct!
I had been looking at the knobs and switches only. You are our resident Kenmore pro!
Thanks
Properly hosed up and running, that's one heck of a fun machine.
Suds on timer
Just as Gordon dscribed. The feature was always there--just not identified. Every Kenmore I came across with and played with, had that "dead space" that actually functioned.
Just as Gordon dscribed. The feature was always there--just not identified. Every Kenmore I came across with and played with, had that "dead space" that actually functioned.
Sam,
Since all the Kenmore's I've ever seen run their drain hoses out of the corner location I would bet that it still would be the same. The hose port that's in the center of the back is the one that would operate as the suds hose. The suds hose has a longer tail piece on it that reaches down almost to the bottom of the sink (except for maybe the last inch to allow sediment to settle while waiting to be re-used) giving it the ability to draw the water back into the machine when it's set for that. If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could just use two reg. drain hoses into the same sink.
For your piece of mind- make sure the suds hose and the reg. drain hose are connected before you run the machine for the first time. The suds hose is used for draining the wash water. It also returns it to the machine when you use the suds saver. The other hose operates for all the other drain functions.
If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could use 2 reg. drain hoses but if you plan on using it then-
The suds hose needs to drain into a stationery tub the has enough capacity to hold what the washer empties from a full tub of water. The other hose can be put into a standpipe or another sink which won't interfere with your suds saving.
Since all the Kenmore's I've ever seen run their drain hoses out of the corner location I would bet that it still would be the same. The hose port that's in the center of the back is the one that would operate as the suds hose. The suds hose has a longer tail piece on it that reaches down almost to the bottom of the sink (except for maybe the last inch to allow sediment to settle while waiting to be re-used) giving it the ability to draw the water back into the machine when it's set for that. If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could just use two reg. drain hoses into the same sink.
For your piece of mind- make sure the suds hose and the reg. drain hose are connected before you run the machine for the first time. The suds hose is used for draining the wash water. It also returns it to the machine when you use the suds saver. The other hose operates for all the other drain functions.
If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could use 2 reg. drain hoses but if you plan on using it then-
The suds hose needs to drain into a stationery tub the has enough capacity to hold what the washer empties from a full tub of water. The other hose can be put into a standpipe or another sink which won't interfere with your suds saving.
John's Frankenmore has that loop of hose going outside the cabinet. I think he told me that the large capacity machines did not have room for the usual arrangement of the hoses inside. The one thing I liked about Maytags from long ago when I hated all of them was the save or drain suds option so that you could drain the suds without using a tub; not so the WP-made washers.
If that fit in a taurus wagon, I wonder what I can carry in my MKX...
Hrm.. Maybe I'll go get some stuff in Eastern Montana I've been eyeing ... :-D
Hrm.. Maybe I'll go get some stuff in Eastern Montana I've been eyeing ... :-D
mrb627
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SUDS Saver
So this machine will always engage the diverter valve as if SUDS saving is desired? If not, how does one set it for saving or draining?
Malcolm
So this machine will always engage the diverter valve as if SUDS saving is desired? If not, how does one set it for saving or draining?
Malcolm
Malcolm- Yes it automatically does it.
The machine will drain the wash water automatically thru the suds hose which is the hose that it use to return suds. If you plan on "suds saving" you just have to make sure the drain in the sink is closed so you don't lose the water. When your ready to return your suds back to the machine just set the dial to the suds mark
(6 o'clock position on the dial) and the machine will suck the suds back out of the sink into the machine. The other drain hose on the machine is used for all other drain functions.
The machine will drain the wash water automatically thru the suds hose which is the hose that it use to return suds. If you plan on "suds saving" you just have to make sure the drain in the sink is closed so you don't lose the water. When your ready to return your suds back to the machine just set the dial to the suds mark
(6 o'clock position on the dial) and the machine will suck the suds back out of the sink into the machine. The other drain hose on the machine is used for all other drain functions.
Cool Rare Later LKM Washer With Factory Suds-Saver
This machine as several other knowledgeable people have stated appears to be completely stock, the one other cool feature of this washer is that you can save either all the wash water [ up to about 23 gallons I believe ] or only about 14 gallons of the wash water by changing an electrical connection inside the control panel. Sam if you read the foot notes on the rear panels wiring diagram it tells you how to make this adjustment. This was done on some WP built Super capacity washers because most laundry sinks would only hold 18-20 gallons of water and trying to save it all would result in an overflow and FLOOD.
Sam I have several new complete Triple-Dispenser assemblies if you would like to make this feature functional again. You are correct that you do not need to use the det dispenser for normal loads, the reason these washers had the DD was for the automatic soak or per-wash cycles so you did not have to return to the machine to add the main wash detergent.
This machine as several other knowledgeable people have stated appears to be completely stock, the one other cool feature of this washer is that you can save either all the wash water [ up to about 23 gallons I believe ] or only about 14 gallons of the wash water by changing an electrical connection inside the control panel. Sam if you read the foot notes on the rear panels wiring diagram it tells you how to make this adjustment. This was done on some WP built Super capacity washers because most laundry sinks would only hold 18-20 gallons of water and trying to save it all would result in an overflow and FLOOD.
Sam I have several new complete Triple-Dispenser assemblies if you would like to make this feature functional again. You are correct that you do not need to use the det dispenser for normal loads, the reason these washers had the DD was for the automatic soak or per-wash cycles so you did not have to return to the machine to add the main wash detergent.
cornutt
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If this machine is like the older Kenmores, it only does suds save on the "Cotton/Sturdy" cycle (and maybe the delicates cycle). It doesn't do it on the Permanant Press cycle because the cool-down water dilutes the suds.
