British Laundry Detergents

[rayjay]

Hi.

I would like to try some British laund detergents, (DAZ) etc.
I was wondering if there is a store or company that I can order on line from?

I live NJ but very close to NYC.

Thanks for you help.

Ray

 

[marthalover4eve]

amazon

amazon
ebay sell alot of brit detergents

 

[rayjay]

Hi.

I think only amazon.uk?

I was wondering if there is anything in the USA?

Thanks

 

[frigilux]

Rayjay-- I use the Brit Superstore online. It's a reliable and prompt service. They have all the major UK detergents/additives (my choice is always powdered Persil Bio) and many other groceries.

PREPARE YOURSELF FOR SHIPPING STICKER SHOCK.

I order three 50-use (large) boxes of Persil and it costs $145-$150. The prices aren't outrageous, it's the shipping. My rationale: I no longer spend money on cigarettes, drugs, or alcohol, so I "treat" myself to UK items a couple of times a year, cost-be-damned.

http://www.britsuperstore.com/

 

[hunter]

@frigilux:

Perhaps you should just visit UK once per year with empty suitcases ;-)?

Hunter

(On the rare occasions I go any longer, I come back with tea, candy, spices, etc.)

 

[rayjay]

Eugene

Thanks for the info.

I wonder why these products are not available here?
Persil from Germany is and there are other products from Britan

Have you tried DAZ detergent???

Thanks

Ray

 

[launderess]

Persil (Henkel)

Is imported to the USA via Miele North America which solves the problems of duties, shipping, customs etc for their dealers wishing to sell Henkel products.

IIRC there are a few other sources (GermanDeli.com) of German laundry and other products but one has no idea where or how they obtain their inventory.

Selling a detergent or product out of it's native market isn't an inexpensive thing. Leaving aside the shipping and customs costs there are various regulatory and legal matters as well up to and including some sort of customer support. Miele USA handles the last bit for Persil and one assumes accepts responsibility/liability.

There was once a court case where a large detergent maker sued or was sued because of something that happened when it's product was sold where it shouldn't have been. IIRC the stuff was forced off the shelves by the court decision.

Remember Miele USA began selling Persil (highly marked up to go with their expensive washing machines)because at the time "HE" detergents were hard to find in the United States. When P&G first introduced Tide "HE" powder it was recommened for use in Miele washing machines (at least it had the logo on the packet), but IIRC that has now gone.

In order to sell a detergent in the United States or anywhere else that a company wants done right tons of research must be done into the market. Local water conditions, laundry habits, typical stains/soils, etc... all must be taken into account. Detergents sold in the UK for instance are frequently tested on removal of curry and beet stains as they are popular foods there.

All that is probably too expensive an undertaking to break into a saturated and mature market such as the USA. Besides most if not all the major global laundry product companies (Unilever, P&G, Henkel, etc) already have a presence on these shores already. That or technology/research into products sold on one side of the pond are shared elsewhere.

 

[vintagekitchen]

Henkel

I notice on the box I purchased for my Fels Naptha experiment that they are now the producers of Trend, rather than Colgate-Palmolive, as it used to be. I may purchase another box, and use it for a load or 2 by itself, to see if Henkel has altered and improved the formula to be more on par with their other products. For a dollar, it's not a bad risk.

 

[launderess]

Could Be Wrong But

Dial Corp owned Trend as well as Purex brands.

When Henkel purchased Dial back in the early 2000's it got both Trend and Purex along with Armour and a few other brands.

Colgate-Palmolive sold off it's detergent brands as well to Phoneix Brands.

 

[vintagekitchen]

oops..

You are correct Launderess, it was Dial which previously owned Trend. Not sure where my mind went when I said Colgate-Palmolive. I do wonder if Henkel altered the formula... The only box I have used since the switch was in my experiment with the Fels, and it was mixed with so much stuff one can't be sure how it would have performed by itself. I know the Dial produced Trend was rather harsh, without a great deal of strength for shifting stains.

 

[nickuk]

Hi rayjay

From the UK, may I say that in my opinion Frigilux is absolutely correct. Persil bio (and the non bio counterpart, in different ways) is a great detergent.

Daz is mediocre. Way too sudsy, smells cheap and is a far less complex biological product. Strong brand imaging, but basically overpiced P+G sh**. I believe you have similar products in the USA.

Take care

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

Tarts point of view

Have to admit im fond of Daz,

There was a time I wouldnt of got my bargepole out now Its one of my regulars.

White whites, not great on some stains but then Ariel and Persil seem to struggle on Curry and Pasta sauce stains these days so im careful when eating such stuff and prepared to re wash where needed.

Scent is almost retro - walk past a pallet full at work and you do get the 80's scent that an open box just does not seem to have. Tablets still have the same scent as Ultra" thankfully for one of lifes very few pleasure now and then.

 

[zanussi_lover]

@aquarius1984

I agree Daz smells wonderful, especially when you do a boil wash

I currently have some Daz Tablets that I'm using for Whites, and they clean superbly

I'm also using Ariel Colour and Style Powder for my Darks, which has that 90s Ariel Scent that the Green Bio version used to have until 2006 - I'm going to buy a big box of this

Softener I have Lenor Orange Blossom which smells wonderful, I bought a 40 wash bottle from ASDA for £2 (this little bottle was from Poundland)

 

[rayjay]

Hi Nick.

I can get the Persil (Henkels) Universal Powder here and also the liquid.

Great stuff. Is the Henkels Persil the same as he Persil Bio?

 

[nickuk]

different

Hi Rayjay

No - Henkel Persil is a different product to our Persil, which is made by Unilever. I couldn't say which one performs better, I don't think there is much in it. Henkel Persil is a TOL detergent in Germany (and is marketed in other European countries under different names eg Dixan) whereas Persil is a TOL detergent in the UK (and, confusingly, is also marketed in other European countries under different names eg Skip).

I hope that you manage to source some of the UK detergents you are after.

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Hi Rob, Kyle. Absolutely agree that Daz will get whites as white as Ariel / Persil, also agree that these detergents struggle too on the stains you mention. My main issue with the P/G stuff (inc Ariel, still)is the sudsing. Bought a box of Ariel bio yesterday in Tesco on offer, and just groaned when I saw the froth it was whipping up (oh, and the stain removal was no better than my usual Formil)

The Daz tablets smell good, for sure. Used to use tabs all the time but now I've got used to powder I find the inflexible dosing irritating. I often manage to somehow mess up opening the tabs, and end up with the stuff all over my feet. Probably my fault for rushing things. Cute little bottle of Lenor Kyle!!

Take care

Nick

 

[frigilux]

Rayjay-- The Henkel (German) version of Persil is an excellent detergent. It is one of the first foreign detergents I tried. I prefer the Unilever (UK) version because it rinses out better in my super-soft water. I think the actual cleaning properties of both versions is pretty close. It's much cheaper to get Henkel Persil in the US, so you might want to try that first. The German version rinses out better than US detergents like Tide, but the Unilever powdered Persil takes the checkered flag for clean rinsing.

I can't speak for liquid or tablet/pac Persil, as I've never used them.

 

[MrX]

I'd agree with that Unilever's European TOL products are exceptionally low foaming.

Persil and Skip also smells really nice. I find it's one of the more pleasant scents of the modern era detergents.

Daz also retains a very classic detergent scent.

Some of the Surf scents are very good too as is the orange blossom version of Bold.

The only problem with surf and Daz is that they've less complex enzyme blends than the top of the line products.

Persil and Aeriel are higher tech products.

 

[rayjay]

Unilever Persil

I have been using the Henkel German Persil and llove it. The big box lasts so long.

Can I get the Unilever Persil here?

 

[frigilux]

I'm not aware that Unilever (UK) Persil is available anywhere in the US.  You'll have to order it from a British importer, like the above-mentioned BritSuperstore online.