Broken Bosch dishwasher :( - a dilema.....

[seamusuk]

Hey Keven

I did consider contacting them- maybe a word with our Bosch rep could be in order!- obviously I could try the "this could change how I rate your products if costomers ask me" thing .

It might work......mmm

Seamus

 

[lavamat_jon]

Seamus... that would probably work actually! Bribary is always the best policy LOL.

I don't think the Bosch appliance line is a bad bunch really compared to what you can get out there - though it is sad to see areas where they are cutting costs, e.g. the plastic tubs in the cheaper Made in Spain dishwashers.

Jon

P.S. have added you to msn

 

[seamusuk]

But then again......

Ive convinced myself I want the Miele now lol!!!

Seamus

Jon

As I said to Nick, feel free to add me to Msn if you wanna

 

[aquarius1984]

is this the new msn????

Nick

 

[lavamat_jon]

Seamus - have done.

Jon

 

[andrewinorlando]

Seamus -

That's my point exactly....you're so limited in your ability to fit larger items in the slimline machines, either on their own or along with your dishes. And let's face it, why wash pots and pans when you have a machine that can do it for you?? As long as the full size machine will physically fit the space you have for it, I'd go for the Miele, too, and not worry about what may go wrong with the Bosch again. Maybe if your Bosch were a full size machine, I'd say fix it, especially if you'd been happy with it to date.

Andrew

 

[brisnat81]

If capacity is a concern

Look at the G2220 or the likes, it gives the extra 5cm of height in the cabinet and offsets the space lost by the cuttlery tray.

I've got 28cm plates, and long stemmed wine glasses, which wouldn't have fitted in the G12XX series. They fit perfectly with a little room to spare in my G2220.

 

[foraloysius]

Just read the latest Dutch consumer test on dishwashers. Best in the test was the Miele G1220SCU, second Bauknecht GSXP7527 and third the Bosch SGV45M12EU. Best buy was the much cheaper Ikea Renlig (what's in an Ikea name LOL) DWHB00. Worst in the test did the Whirlpool ADG9556. Which is a bit strange because I think that one must be pretty similar to the Ikea one. Consumer tests..!

 

[fredriksam]

Ikea Renlig and consumer tests

I,m not sure but i think the Ikea ones ARE made by Whirlpool. Strange the Whirlpool one was worst while Ikea was better. Maybe something about the program and such. I know in the 90´s Siemens and Bosch maked a washing machine. Doesnt remeber the exact name on it. However it was the very same machine BUT the Siemens one had a 10 minutes longer wash time than the Bosch one. That alone maked the Siemens washing better.

Of course. We have kinda dumb consumer tests here in Sweden. They throw alot of coins, Bh´s, LOT of lints into the washing machines and all that cant handle that is bad in their opinion. Also machines with emanel outer drum gets a minus directly just for that. However outer plastic drum is GOOD in their opinion. Say what??????????.

 

[panthera]

Consumer Tests

I have noticed through the years that each testing institution has its priorities. A classic case in point here in Germany:
Up 'till the late 1980's we had "Stiftung Warentest" and Ökotest. SW was (and is) known for their carefully documented tests and their willingness to go to court when a manufacturer screams "foul".
They do, however, tend to downrate the overall value of an appliance if certain aspects are not in line with their opinion of what is right. The instruction manual includes seveal European languages? Lower the rating. The packaging material is not recyclable? Lower the rating. Still and all, I find them a fair guide to general levels of quality - and an invaluable resource when I look at a product made by a company (Candy/Indesit for instance) which I would normally avoid.
Ökotest for years and years rated everything which used electricity (worse, batteries) or made life more pleasant through throw away products (plastic bag sealers, for instance)very very poorly. Faced with losing their last subscri bers (even for German standards, they were "Bedenkenträger" - nay sayers) they asked their readers how they wanted the ratings done. The readers responded that they should clearly separate between quality, suitability to purpose, etc. and the environment.
So today, you can find a washer rated "very good" by SW and "extremly, absolutely terrible" by Ökotest - but when you look at the categories they come out to be very close on the relevant features and usefulness.
Who knows why the Swedish testing institution prefers plastic? I bet they do have a reason, and if you wrote to them I would be interested to know what they said.

 

[foraloysius]

I had a closer look at the test. It's actually quite difficult to compare because of the way the website is set up. I noticed that the Bauknecht it's cleaning ability is much less but gets more points due to the fact that it is very silent. Also the Bauknecht is more frugal with energy than the Miele although the Miele still gets an AAA rating. Interesting but also confusing, it looks like the cleaning ability in this test isn't very important.

 

[irishwashguy]

Go for the Miele!!

Not only are they mechenically superior to anything else out there, the service after the sale is hard to beat. They know they have a good product and knowlegeable. I love all of the Miele things in my house. i bought a Miele dishwasher for a friend of mine, and she loves it!! It was so quiet, she forgot it was running. It is a wise buy. And the Pier de resistance, they have fab and simple style. What more could a guy want.