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Is anyone else using these have a problem with high amounts of suds? I ran a load through my dishwasher today and during the main wash cycle there was so much foam inside you couldn't hear any water spray. I've noticed on previous loads that the water spray wasnt as strong with all the foam, however this time It got so bad that water started to leak out from the bottom. It did this once before and I thought I had an actual leak but the last few times I ran it, nothing dripped out until today. I got these to replace the Finish liquid I was using as it did a horrible job and the packs do clean much better and believe it or not, by the last rinse cycle the water was crystal clear. What if anything could I add during the main wash to cut down the suds? I appreciate any recommendations offered :)
 
I have a similar issue with the Platinum--no leaking, just foam induced water jets.  But everything is coming out as clean as usual. 
 
Seems to be a water quality issue.  Others here have reported excess foaming with the Platinum "action-pacs."  But my water is pretty hard and there isn't enough foaming to be a problem. 

 

They do clean the best of anything I've used since the phosphate ban.  Since I only run the dishwasher once or twice a week I do think they are worth the extra cost.
 
Yes! Especially with Cascade Platinum. It works excellent, but you would think I put Dawn liquid in the tub :) Makes me wonder if it gets completely rinsed or if there is residual detergent left on the dishes?
 
Jim- You would think so but the water here is pretty hard. It's been a while since I checked the level but water spotted windows and cars are a regular thing here. But I do like how they clean. Just as good as old phosphated stuff.

JJSunshine- You've got that right. There was a thick blanket of suds at the bottom. But nonresidue left on my dishes at all. By the last rinse the water is crystal clear.

Dadoes- I'm wondering if there are other water softening agents in it. I didn't think to check.
 
Haven't noticed any excessive suds with Complete, it just doesn't clean well here. Our water is very hard. So I used only the Platinum.
Recently tried Walgreens Nice packs and very impressed with the cleaning performance. Won't hestitate to use it again.
 
too much foam

Hi all

It's exactly the same in the UK - Fairy Platinum are way too sudsy. I feel a dishwasher needs almost no suds to be fully effective. Just wanted to make this comment to show you that it's not just local water conditions....they are just too sudsy!! However I agree it is a great detergent.

Nick
 
Fairy Platinum

In my experience is far too sudsy - and it caused a suds-lock in my Bosch. The wash action was very lethargic.

I get much better performance with Finish tablets of various kinds, and stores' own brands, Lidl's in particular.
 
Yes they are a lot more sudsy. I've had the worst of that from the Platinum pacs. If you are using it in an older machine in particular, you will get a ton of suds. They are really designed for newer machines that don't use as much water.
 
Have not noticed any increased suds

and no drop off in cleaning ability.  I use the 16X variety
 
 
<blockquote>JoeyPete:  Yes they are a lot more sudsy. ... If you are using it in an older machine in particular, you will get a ton of suds. They are really designed for newer machines that don't use as much water.</blockquote> Just to say, my 14yo DD takes 0.8 gal per fill.

Seems that a fixed-dose pack with less water would cause more sudsing.  No?

How much water does a typical new-off-the-lot unit take nowadays?
 
Yeah good point Glenn...I guess they are sudsy regardless...maybe it's more the wash action in older machines (more vigorous) that makes suds more a problem?

The Frigidaire Gallery model that I had used very little water...probably at least half of what my Hobart KA uses.
 
Hi Rolls. I had regularly used the cheaper Finish ones (not Quantum - think they are just called `all in 1') but took a pack to work just for coffee cups a few months back because they started leaving the dishwasher and contents with a white coating. Moved to Quantum (when on offer!) and all was good. However, recently these have also had a slating on the Ocado reviews for the same reason and I notice the old `New and improved' logo on the packaging. It looks as though Finish are tweaking something across the brands and it ain't working.

For this reason I bought Fairy Platinum on the last shop but had forgotten about the hideous suds. I was actually wondering what the alarming vibrating noise was - worktop was all a tremble - remembered dishwasher was on - ear to door - ah yes......

I can't stand to hear a dishwasher choking when it should be merrily squirting away ;-)

Where to go from here??!! I don't go in LIDL (thanks for the recommendation Rolls) so may just go back to the old fashioned `unwrappable' Essential Waitrose. These were perfectly good from memory. I always use salt and rinse aid anyway.

Anyhow - not wishing to thread hijack - yes OP - Fairy / Cascade Platinum do over foam in my opinion, though I respectfully acknowledge the experience of those who have not had the same experience.
 
One possibility I thought of.  On my lower-end Whirlpool from a few years ago the detergent compartment doesn't seal well at all.  Not sure if this happened with age or if it was always like that.

 

When I place a pod that has separate liquid sections in the main compartment before starting the cycle I find that the heat and water leakage melt the pod and the liquid parts partially drain out into the pre-wash.

 

Now I usually just listen for the main wash to start and toss the pod in to avoid the problem.  I only run the dishwasher once a week on average so this isn't a big deal for me.

 

If there are foam suppressors are in the liquid part that is being lost too soon maybe that could be part of the problem.

 

I do wonder if the three separate sections of liquid attached to the powder are just marketing.  Obviously the candy-colors are but I wonder about the rest of it.  Is there a real need to have a three separate liquid compartments (or a need to have separate liquid and powder sections at all...?)
 
Iowabear

Your theory is good, but I rarely (if ever) use a prewash / rinse and still get the problem. Just letting you know so you are not worried it's something you or your d/w is doing wrong - just the nature of the product.
 
"white coating..."

I've just read the Ocado reviews slating the Finish 'All-in-1'. Not good.

I got that powdery coating with Finish Powder. And then I read reviews about that being awful too.
 

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