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Greetings and "Aloha" as we enter the New Year. I wish my whole AW family much good health and happiness in this next year. I don't always have a lot to say, I don't chime in on every thread and every topic, but I am here most every day and I do love you all here.

Since our vacation back to Minnesota at the end of last summer, there have been a number of changes and signs to us that our time here on Maui has come to an end. We just both came to feel this at more or less the same time.(My friend Martha says that we are too sensitive) Things have changed both here on Maui and back in Minnesota. Things have changed about how we feel about living in Hawai'i. We have decided to return to Saint Paul, Minnesota.

I think one of the big things in our reaching this decision is the cost of living here. We were under no illusion that it would be cheap to live here, but it has gotton much more expensive in the four and a half years we have been here. We thought by living modestly we could live within our means here, but we are both weary of feeling like poor college students at the end of every month. Financially our move here has been a disaster. It's not that we were rich on the mainland, but I did not have to worry about money the way I do here. EVERYONE we know here is really poor, when you get right down to it. We are ALL a paycheck away from living at the beach. Even the Hospital here is understaffed as Doctors and Nurses do not want to deal with the cost of living here. Dennis and I decided the we love Hawai'i, but do not love it enough to work two and three jobs to stay here. My job here has become less satisfying than I had hoped and Dennis feels very trapped at the Tita farm he works at (the office is referred to as PFS for Patient Financial Services and lately he has been saying "PMS"). One of the things that we have found difficult about working here is that...well, uhmm...it's not nice to say but ah, people here aren't all that bright. At first it seems cool because you come in and you get to be the smart one but after a while you see that the whole organization is affected and it brings you down with it.

Of course there are things we will miss-we are moving to what has been called Siberia with family restaurants. Maui of course has nearly perfect weather, but that is the only thing that IS perfect. The island is quite dirty, the roads and buildings are crumbling. medical care is barely adequate. As lovely as it is here, I do now have "rock fever" real bad and am tired of seeing the same thing everyday and not being able to easily go somewhere else. Dennis says he really misses the whole estate sale thing and I die a little inside every time one of you mainland folks drags home another mint Kenmore Roto-Rack or vintage Dormeyer Mixer.

Anyway our landing in St. Paul should be fairly smooth as I already will be return to to the employ of the family at Plaza TV & Appliance, this time as a Service Technician (thanks to classes I took here on Maui). I am really excited to be going back to a group of people that I love to work with, back in the appliance industry. Just think of all the goodies I will be able to snag from the scrap heap! I will also be making MORE money in a place that is cheaper to live; what's wrong with that?

Anyway, my apologies to those who had been planning on maybe coming out to see me (waves to Airway Charlie!) but I guess this all came up quick. The good thing is I will be much more able to participate in "real-time" club activities; I won't have the ordeal of an eight hour flight to join in. Maui has been fun and there are many things here I wish I could have shared with all of you.

We will be having our moving sale here on weekend of Feb. 9/10. We will fly out of Maui on 2/11, spend a couple of days in Phoenix shopping for warmer clothes, then on to Minnesota on 2/15.

I look forward to seeing more of all you folks in the future and I expect some good natured ribbing about previous comments I made about this being paradise. While it is lovely here and I'm glad we tried our dream, the vacation is over and it is time to go to a place that is more normal than this is.
 
Welcome back!

Minnesota? February? Wow!!! Nothing like easing back into it!...lol.

Sometimes life throws these little twists and turns in the road for a reason. Time will tell.

Have a safe trip home....
 
Welcome back in advance, guys! When I was younger, I felt a little lazy not leaving Minnesota for more exciting and/or weather-friendly territory; In the past year three friends have moved back to Minnesota from other, more urban, places (Seattle, New York and Sacramento) and---readjustments to the climate aside---not one of them regrets their move. And frankly, as much as I enjoy visiting places like Seattle and New York, I'm always glad that Minnesota---and small-town Minnesota at that, is where I hang my hat.

May your move be hassle-free!
 
There's not place like home

I moved back to my hometown after being away for 20 years and it's good to be home again. So I'm sure you'll adjust with no problems. Good Luck!

Joe
jamman_98
 
Will Be Waiting Your Mary Tyler Moore Moment Caught On Video

You know, where you go to down-town Minneapolis, and throw your hat up in the air in front of the Foshay Tower. I'll be the old woman right behind you (with the glasses and kerchief), looking at you as if you were stark raving bonkers! *LOL*

Don't sweat the small things, and have a safe and happy moving of house!

Launderess
 
Yay! It will be so much fun to have you closer for wash-ins and other gatherings. I can't wait to see you (both) soon. I'm sure you'll miss the islands in many respects, but home is where you make it and you're so lucky to have so many, many friends and family here to welcome you!

Best of luck with the move and keep us posted with pictures and stories of the new home.
 
hey there

well Im not sure if you remeber me from the Omaha convention (You gave me a ride back to my room one night) But I am personaly glad you are comming home. Much as I fanatsized about knowing someone in Hawii that I could go visit, St Paul is just as much foreign country hahaha. with Relatives in Wisconsin, theres a better chance of re aquaintence with you here in Siberia (with family restaruants) Welcome back to the mainland
 
When I visited some friends on the Big Island in the 90's, I got the distinct impression that they were also living in a sort of genteel poverty. I guess everything is more expensive in Hawaii, since most everything needs to be shipped great distances to get there. Also, I guess jobs can be scarce and low paying. And who wants to work in paradise, anyway?

Seemed to me there was a real class distinction there - the very wealthy on their estates and then the rest of the locals. And then the tourists, sequestered in their hotels and gift shops.
 
David, Best New Year Wishes to you and Dennis. It's good to hear from you. I would not look at this as a disaster, failure or defeat. You were able to realize a dream, and most dreams are followed by awakening, especially as we mature. After my brother's death, I wanted to get out of here and live in Florida where I visited friends on both coasts. I had not been to Florida in 23 years and it was more of a magical place as an adult than it had been as a child. I could go where I wanted and was able to bring tropical plants back to a home where I had a place to enjoy their greenery and flowers during the 7 unwarm months of the year when the outdoor offerings are not lush. It is fun to watch snow piling up while standing surrounded by an indoor jungle of Plumeria, bananas, Croton, Ixora (in bloom), palms and giant Clivias. I did begin to see some imperfections and some corrosion around the edges as I kept returning to visit. First off, the medical care was not on a par with up here. A friend's doctor, without even seeing him, told him over the phone, that he probably was not coming down with shingles and to let it develop over the weekend and check back. Well, by Monday, it was too late for the anti-viral that could interrupt the course of the disase. I was already familiar with hurricanes and though Sarasota had not been been hit in decades, they are an increasing danger. When I was looking at the job market, it became apparent that there were some specialized fields outside of my knowledge that paid well and the rest were largely support services and tourist industry jobs. I realized that Florida was largely where you went after you made your money unless you already had money or loved or could stand dealing with the public for an occupation. It was sad to see so many young people, and usually gorgeous ones, going into construction, maintenance, landscaping and retail instead of what I, in my antiquated thinking, consider careers with potential for things like being able to work in air conditioning, being shielded from direct interaction with the public, being able to sit instead of bending, kneeling, squatting or lying on your abdomen or back in cramped quarters to get to do your job. One of my doctors told me that he has patients who retired to Florida who maintain an in-law apartment or similar living quarters here to make it easier to return for medical treatment with their established physicians and specialists. So many people, young and old smoked. I guess every corner of paradise has disadvantages. These warm, sunny, tropical locations can really help heal a soul. At first you let yourself wallow in the beauty and enjoy all that is offered to you. The break with reality is wonderful and you enjoy things that take you mind away from troubling matters. Then when your strength begins to return, you start to notice things like you and Dennis and I noticed and eventually, you realize that you have the regained strength to return to living where the weather is not all sunshine and warmth. You sadly realize that when you have to work in paradise, you can't spend everyday at the beach or golf course or the aquariums or wildlife centers or the thrift stores or flea markets. That is facing the facts and being mature. For people with a hell of a lot more money than I have, it is different, of course, but realizing that you value financial security which means living within your means without working yourself to death is nothing to be ashamed of. It is maturity. I hope that you have an easy transition back and am glad that you have work lined up. I look forward to the improved chances of meeting you and Dennis. Big Kitty will come back with you, right? What about the Duet? I hope that you find wonderful, snug quarters with lots of room for appliances. Think of all the fun you can have visiting other people and viewing their collections. Geoff will have your tits in hot sudsy water (but not in the wringer) doing laundry with his wonderful Maytag conventional washers. Whatever your interests, Gary W. is sure to have something that will fascinate you in his treasure trove, if you can just manage to get close to it. I know you will find fun and friends and happiness and you have a head start. Best wishes always to you both. Tom
 
Welcome back!

I, for one, am envious: You had a great time in a tropical paradise, and you came back home when you were ready. Good for you!

Winter in the midwest is harsh, but it's also the best time to move there: The weather only gets better :-)

And yes - the the estate sales in the cities are epic. I'm envious about that also.
 
Best of luck in your move. It is quite a big one. How wonderful that you and Dennis are on the same page!

Wishing you health and wealth and happiness in all of your endeavors.

But for heaven's sake take pictures like lunatics over there, while you still can. Enquiring minds want to know!

May g-d bless you both keep you under the protection of his cloak now and forever and through the ages of ages. Amen.
 
Hi David and Dennis, All the best luck to you both on the move. I am happy that I was able to visit with you both this past October. I am really not surprise to hear this news after talking with you both. I still think this experience has been a good one for you. Had you not made the move you might have always wondered "what if". Good luck and please keep us posted. Terry
 
Tom, very astute read on the Florida "mystique". I was recruited to work down there (in my field...a good promotion and everything) 10 years ago and really disliked it...was there for about 18 months until the complany relocated me again to Atlanta (much better).

I had never encountered so much paranoia about "that element" as I saw there...people searching out gated subdivisions and worrying endlessly about security (alarm) systems. Maybe I'm just hopelessly Midwestern, but I just can't be bothered and don't care for that level of paranoia.

The first winter I was there I had trouble getting used to the travel patterns...I'd before lived in places where one escaped for the holidays...not Florida...you had to plan your travel carefully. Getting out before Christmas was easy (flights were deserted) but getting back was tough...you had to pick your flights very carefully.
 
Minnesota Welcomes You Home!

Hi David ...

How exciting; moving back home!! I was out of Minnesota over 20 years and lived in Arizona and in Oregon/Washington. I must say, coming back to Minnesota felt like home; even if it is cold.

Today, driving in to work, it was -11! Windchills were in the -20 degree range.

You learn to live with the cold; it feels healthier (if that's possible). I mean, you have to keep moving around otherwise you'd freeze in one spot!! :-) My cousin says it is "character building and gives you grit!" :-)

Spring, summer and fall ... oh my ... I love ALL of Minnesota's seasons. They are so pronounced and vibrant. Spring is one of my favorites ... March and then April and then May ... the tulips and daffodils and bleeding hearts emerging ... getting the garden ready. I got my first 2 seed magazines this past weekend and I wish I had an acre of garden to plant!!

It will be fun to meet you and Dennis; you won't be far away! We promise not to get you into too much hot water with the Maytag conventionals like tomturbomatic says! :-) They are fun to use!

Enjoy the rest of your time in Hawaii; what a great experience and how wonderful you can come home!!

Geoff
 
Little wonder your area of Minnesota was just acknowledged a

States.

That thought arrived after reading your opening post and now Geoff's.

I'm so glad you're coming home and I can't wait to meet you. This is funny, but you've inadvertently added to my weakness, Gluttony: I've loved nuts my whole life--who doesn't? But for some strange reason, macadamias just never caught my fancy, until late Christmas Eve when I opened your Secret Santa gift. They are the fattiest nuts in existence, and I can't stop eating them. I'm going to need a Jackie Gleason fat-shaker-off-er. by the time I finish the third can.

How lucky you are to have lived in paradise, but as other brothers have noted, winter makes you feel alive, snow is so purifying, and one can't imagine living without winter.

Welcome home!
 

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