Well, didn't see this coming.
Coakley Conceeds - Brown Wins MA Senate Seat
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toggleswitch2
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Is there a bookie in the house?
OK I'm calling it. Before the tenth panel there will be bloodshed.
Just remember darlings, on multiple-choice tests "ALWAYS" and "NEVER" are usually the wrong answer.
If you are absolutely convinced that your Democratic, Repulician, Communist, Socialist or Whatever-ist way of thinking is the ONLY possbile reasonable way to think, you are probably automatically WRONG!
Just because one holds a point of view fervently and insists is is correct doesn't make make it so.
Have mercy on yoruselves and each other.
May the bloodshed begin..............
OK I'm calling it. Before the tenth panel there will be bloodshed.
Just remember darlings, on multiple-choice tests "ALWAYS" and "NEVER" are usually the wrong answer.
If you are absolutely convinced that your Democratic, Repulician, Communist, Socialist or Whatever-ist way of thinking is the ONLY possbile reasonable way to think, you are probably automatically WRONG!
Just because one holds a point of view fervently and insists is is correct doesn't make make it so.
Have mercy on yoruselves and each other.
May the bloodshed begin..............
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No Bloodshed here.. Toggles~
My hope is after the last thread, people can express themselves here in a respectful manner. I, for one, won't comment on the results of this election.
More importantly, I think the "Super Forum" needs to get back to basics- IMHO. You know, trading recipes, and discussing blenders, among other things vintage.
Here is my blender. A fabulous, mint condition, 1963, Osterizer beehive. It's a real workhorse!
My hope is after the last thread, people can express themselves here in a respectful manner. I, for one, won't comment on the results of this election.
More importantly, I think the "Super Forum" needs to get back to basics- IMHO. You know, trading recipes, and discussing blenders, among other things vintage.
Here is my blender. A fabulous, mint condition, 1963, Osterizer beehive. It's a real workhorse!
Jon Stewart got it right last night --"Who cares?" His point was that Bush pushed through all his crap with a handful of people, whereas the Dems, still have what 18 seats- and they still can't get anything done? Obama needs Bush's balls and just ram his plans through, but unfortunately it will never happen.
The Dems just dither while the R's play hardball and screw us all.
The Dems just dither while the R's play hardball and screw us all.
In the US Senate, the party of No always holds the upper hand. It only takes 41 of them to enable a single senator to obstruct and delay progressive legislation. It takes 60 votes in the Senate to pass progressive legislation. On the flip side, those who want to maintain the status quo (because they, or their donors, are profiting so handsomely from it) need only have 41 votes to maintain it.
When people complain about the lack of change in Washington, I like to remind them that the Dems have had a filibuster-proof Senate majority for less than a year, and now it's gone. The do-nothings have won, once again.
When people complain about the lack of change in Washington, I like to remind them that the Dems have had a filibuster-proof Senate majority for less than a year, and now it's gone. The do-nothings have won, once again.
Probably shouldn't have started this thread in hindsight, but being as though the cat is out of the bag, so to speak:
Watching the late news and reading same on line, it wasn't purely a party line thing with voters in MA, but rather a mixture.
Far to many in MA felt the Democrats in their state have been playing fast and loose, and the stunt pulled after Senator Kennedy's death, reversing a law they themselves (and the late Mr. Kennedy wished for at the time), put into place to prevent a governor from appointing a senate replacement capped things off.
There is also the simple fact many both in MA and elsewhere feel that Mr. Brown ran a better race than Mrs. Coakley. While the former busied himself criss crossing the state, Mrs. Coakley spent her time meeting with the established MA politcal machine. Mrs. Coakely also spoke rather low of going out and "shaking hands/meeting people", instead preferring to bask in her role as appointed heir by the widow Kennedy, and the Kennedy family. In short Mr. Brown seemed to work really hard at the race, while Mrs. Coakley seemed to take every thing including winning as her proper due. It was only in the final few weeks that, after dismissing Mr. Brown so forth, finall woke up and smelt the coffee.
Oh and another thing, though it is not often mentioned in polite society, more than a few persons seem to take offense in the Kennedy family, and in particular his relic acting as if that senate seat was their own person property. One knows the Kennedy family like to be associated with "American royalty", but there isn't such a thing.
L.
Watching the late news and reading same on line, it wasn't purely a party line thing with voters in MA, but rather a mixture.
Far to many in MA felt the Democrats in their state have been playing fast and loose, and the stunt pulled after Senator Kennedy's death, reversing a law they themselves (and the late Mr. Kennedy wished for at the time), put into place to prevent a governor from appointing a senate replacement capped things off.
There is also the simple fact many both in MA and elsewhere feel that Mr. Brown ran a better race than Mrs. Coakley. While the former busied himself criss crossing the state, Mrs. Coakley spent her time meeting with the established MA politcal machine. Mrs. Coakely also spoke rather low of going out and "shaking hands/meeting people", instead preferring to bask in her role as appointed heir by the widow Kennedy, and the Kennedy family. In short Mr. Brown seemed to work really hard at the race, while Mrs. Coakley seemed to take every thing including winning as her proper due. It was only in the final few weeks that, after dismissing Mr. Brown so forth, finall woke up and smelt the coffee.
Oh and another thing, though it is not often mentioned in polite society, more than a few persons seem to take offense in the Kennedy family, and in particular his relic acting as if that senate seat was their own person property. One knows the Kennedy family like to be associated with "American royalty", but there isn't such a thing.
L.
Well, until the next election, we'll have a lot of fun with the political fallout of this election. Watch how everyone in DC scrambles to save their political hides.
Looking forward to next November's flush...
Looking forward to next November's flush...
Good job Massachusettes.
I am sickened by this. I still say that every Republican opposed to government run health care should give theirs up immediately.
I am sickened by this. I still say that every Republican opposed to government run health care should give theirs up immediately.
I figured Coakley had serious problems when I read, a week before the election, that she had purposely focused on the party leadership rather than on the voters. Her reason was that because it was a foreshortened campaign, this was the most efficient use of time and resources. Unfortunately the independents didn't appreciate her cost-benefit analysis.
She made other blunders as well, getting the allegiance of a famous Red Sox player wrong, and scoffing at standing in the cold and shaking hands with fans as they waited for a major hockey game to let them in.
But I think it would be wrong to characterize her as elitist. I understand she came from a relatively pedestrian economic background. She seems to be rather conservative when it comes to fighting crime, as well, as might be expected from a former DA and current attorney general.
I believe Coakley is a hard worker, bright, and her heart is in the right place. But perhaps she didn't have the legislative experience, and the political savvy, to run an effective Senate campaign under these somewhat unusual circumstances.
She made other blunders as well, getting the allegiance of a famous Red Sox player wrong, and scoffing at standing in the cold and shaking hands with fans as they waited for a major hockey game to let them in.
But I think it would be wrong to characterize her as elitist. I understand she came from a relatively pedestrian economic background. She seems to be rather conservative when it comes to fighting crime, as well, as might be expected from a former DA and current attorney general.
I believe Coakley is a hard worker, bright, and her heart is in the right place. But perhaps she didn't have the legislative experience, and the political savvy, to run an effective Senate campaign under these somewhat unusual circumstances.
perc-o-prince
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Hard not to notice that nobody from the Bay State ('ground zero') has commented yet!
Well, didn't see this coming.
A number of people I spoke with here in MA did.
If you are absolutely convinced that your Democratic, Repulician, Communist, Socialist or Whatever-ist way of thinking is the ONLY possbile reasonable way to think, you are probably automatically WRONG!
Excellent point, Steve!
it wasn't purely a party line thing with voters in MA, but rather a mixture
Very true.
I still say that every Republican opposed to government run health care should give theirs up immediately
What about Democrats opposed to it? Far be it from me to defend Reps, but there are plenty of Dems who are also opposed to the current offering.
Personally, I saw good reasons to vote for either of the main candidates. In the end, one spoke to me a little more than the other.
I'm just thankful the election's over. No more continuous political ads on TV or on web pages. As for what happens now, we'll see. All the conjecture in the world is just that: conjecture.
Chuck
Well, didn't see this coming.
A number of people I spoke with here in MA did.
If you are absolutely convinced that your Democratic, Repulician, Communist, Socialist or Whatever-ist way of thinking is the ONLY possbile reasonable way to think, you are probably automatically WRONG!
Excellent point, Steve!
it wasn't purely a party line thing with voters in MA, but rather a mixture
Very true.
I still say that every Republican opposed to government run health care should give theirs up immediately
What about Democrats opposed to it? Far be it from me to defend Reps, but there are plenty of Dems who are also opposed to the current offering.
Personally, I saw good reasons to vote for either of the main candidates. In the end, one spoke to me a little more than the other.
I'm just thankful the election's over. No more continuous political ads on TV or on web pages. As for what happens now, we'll see. All the conjecture in the world is just that: conjecture.
Chuck
but there are plenty of Dems who are also opposed to the cur
Fair point. ANYONE receiving Government benefits who opposes Government-run health care should give theirs up to any citizen who is being ruined by the health care for profit system.
Fair point. ANYONE receiving Government benefits who opposes Government-run health care should give theirs up to any citizen who is being ruined by the health care for profit system.
ROFLMAO! The reprocutions running deep are already surfacing. Well played!
toggleswitch2
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Antyhing past 10 is a blessing.
Congrat we made it past 10 panels/posts.
Congrat we made it past 10 panels/posts.
runematic
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Where is my ten foot pole when I need it? I guess I'll won't be able to touch this topic! Anyway, both parties have "issues" and really could care less about us, the people, that put them in the lap of luxury.
58limited
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both parties have "issues" and really could care
Well said.
Well said.
toggleswitch2
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Here I go again in all my anal-retentive glory:
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Sign in Irish pub:
English spoken
American Understood.
OK I just HAVE to say it.
The expression, please, is "COULD NOT CARE LESS" meaning one does not care at all. (i.e. It is not possible to care less than I do).
If you "could care less" it means you care somewhat. Logical isn't it?
Polititcs are like guns. Anyone who wants a gun is exactly the person that should not have one. Ditto political positions.
Remember the WIFM. (What's in it for me?) is always at play.
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Sign in Irish pub:
English spoken
American Understood.
OK I just HAVE to say it.
The expression, please, is "COULD NOT CARE LESS" meaning one does not care at all. (i.e. It is not possible to care less than I do).
If you "could care less" it means you care somewhat. Logical isn't it?
Polititcs are like guns. Anyone who wants a gun is exactly the person that should not have one. Ditto political positions.
Remember the WIFM. (What's in it for me?) is always at play.
runematic
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Yeah, yeah. I figured someone would pick up on my slip up. I also figured it would be you, Mr. Switch. I only realized what I had typed up there after I read the posts again. lol
toggleswitch2
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So much for not correcting anyone. LOL
Sorry baby-boy. We all have our issues. (Mine are huge tomes actually).
Hey, If I couln't bitch, moan, p - - - and carry-on would life be any fun?
Yes I really was a professor of English at Oxford University in a past life. LOL
Sorry baby-boy. We all have our issues. (Mine are huge tomes actually).
Hey, If I couln't bitch, moan, p - - - and carry-on would life be any fun?
Yes I really was a professor of English at Oxford University in a past life. LOL
