Commercial Pre-Rinse Faucets?

[volvoguy87]

As many of you know, I am renovating and rehabbing my historic home. I just ordered cabinets for my tiny kitchen, but am now contemplating my sink and faucet. I love to cook and bake, and I think the 33" Kohler Stages will fit my needs nicely. Now, I am trying to find a suitable faucet.

I want a wall-mounted faucet because it makes cleaning around the sink easier. I also must have a side-spray on a hose. All of the residential wall mounted faucets I've seen with side sprays have no provision for storing the hose. The hose just hangs down into the sink, which I find to be unacceptable. I don't want the hose to scratch up the back of the sink. I'm also afraid of nicking the hose with a knife. I certainly worry about the surface of the hose catching all sorts of crud and being a pain to clean, and needing cleaning often.

There are a lot of residential-grade pre-rinse style faucets on the market now, but so many of them seem to be pretty cheaply made and very expensive as well. A pre-rinse faucet is the faucet often seen in commercial kitchens which features a sprayer mounted on a spring. How do you think a real commercial pre-rinse faucet would work?

I'm looking at a T&S Brass pre-rinse faucet with a double-jointed add-on spout. It would have high spout clearance, I could push the spout over and extend it for use as a pot filler, the hose would be vertical and not hang into the sink, and it's less expensive than a residential model. Do any of you think this would be a good idea or a bad one? I know little of commercial faucets. Are some better than others?

A penny for your thoughts?
Dave

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[yogitunes]

I would look for the residential style, but in a commercial build.......

and find it best to shop at an actual plumbing supplier rather than a big box store like Lowes......

for one thing, you can't get replacements parts for most big box store types.....but from a supplier, they can get just about every single piece down to a screw......

it only takes once to learn never to go back to Lowes again...

worth the little extra expense......

good luck....

 

[jamiel]

My aunt and uncle built an architect-designed house and were quickly disabused of the notion of looking at Lowe's/HD by the architect...it's both more efficient and you get soooo much more selection to work with a pro.

 

[circlew]

Dave, either T&S or Chicago Faucet should be a good choice. They aren't cheap, but should last a very long time.

Keidel or Ferguson should be able to get you anything you want.

Home | Chicago Faucets

www.chicagofaucet.com

 

[rockland1]

T & S Faucets

I have a commercial T & S pot filler faucet in my home an am very well pleased. Looks good and high quality.

 

[vacbear58]

T&S

I work for a catering equipment supplier in the UK and we have been installing American manufactured T&S units for about a year or so and do not seem to be having any problems with them. We normally supply them with the optional bowl filling faucet.

The one caveat I would mention is that they do need a fair amount of space above them and ideally the sink would not be in front of a window so that a support for the "upward" pipe can be attached to the wall to avoid strain on the faucet fitting

Al

 

[maytagbear]

I have read..........

that a restaurant kitchen in California has installed a high pressure air hose/compressor and a composting barrel instead of a sprayer. Not sure how well it would work in a residential setting, but the idea has a certain merit. It could get dishware as precleaned as a water spray..........

Just sayin'

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[volvoguy87]

Usage.

My sink will not be in front of a window, so the upper support is not a problem.

I really just want the hose to not hang down into the sink. I don't know that a commercial pre-rinse is necessarily my answer. It would do what I want, but not especially elegantly. I am still mulling my options.

A fully agree with avoiding Lowe's and Home Depot for items of decor and fixtures. Going to showrooms and professional supply houses often yields superior quality products, better parts support, and consistently better customer service.

Dave

 

[volvoguy87]

Another thought.

Another thought I've had, since so many of my friends recoil in horror at the thought of this commercial faucet, is building my own faucet. If I use a wall-mounted pot filler as my spout, a shower valve with separate knobs for temperature and volume, and an automatic diverter valve for my side-spray, I can have the controls and spout on the wall, and the hose coming out from beneath the counter like I originally wanted. I assume I'd need some flow restrictors as well, but it's an intriguing thought.

Why must I make everything so difficult?
Dave

 

[jkbff]

Why not this?

Karbon from kohler, ive seen it on americas test kitchen.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Karbon-articulating-two-hole-wall-mount-kitchen-sink-faucet-with-13-1-4-spout-with-Silver-tube/productDetail/Kitchen-Sink-Faucets/427479.htm?categoryId=432289&skuId=405983&page=merchProductDetails&hash=id%3Dfilters%26chk-4294883618%3D4294883618%26startIndex%3D40%26scrollTop%3D120

 

[jkbff]

Or a mini?

https://www.katom.com/064-MPY8WLN08.html?utm_source=Shopzilla&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=T&S+Brass&utm_content=Mini+Pre-Rinse+Unit&utm_term=064MPY8WLN08&zmam=29342707&zmas=1&zmac=26&zmap=064-MPY8WLN08

 

[jamiel]

that Kohler is awesome...but the price....Oy!

 

[jkbff]

It is pricy, but if it will last more than 20 years and is serviceable, doesn't the price even out a bit?

 

[foraloysius]

Or this...

There are cheaper similar models too...

http://https//www.plumbingsupply.com/jaclo-steam-valve-original-wallmount-bridge-faucets.html#8in-pull-off

 

[jkbff]

^^ I Saw that one too, even I couldn't justify the $1200 lol.

 

[volvoguy87]

Karbon Faucet.

I've gone to see the Karbon articulated faucet shown above. It's lovely, but it's very contemporary. Despite selecting a Kohler Stages sink, picture at the link below, my kitchen is very traditionally styled. My design is mostly 1880s inspired, with appliances somewhat newer.

I've thought of using a wall mounted bridge faucet with a stand-alone sidespray, but those are dear to say the very least. If I use my pot filler & shower control method, I think I could be very happy. I just need to figure out how to make a sidespray work with that.

David

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Kitchen-Sinks-Under-Mount-Sinks/Stages%E2%84%A2/brand/651554/651536.htm?brandNValue=4294879958

 

[jkbff]

If only they had this in a wall mount...

http://www.tsbrass.com/overview.php?pid=B-0127&loc_cat=Pre-Rinse+Units

I emailed them to ask if that could be attached to a wall mount Base...

 

[jkbff]

I guess i should read the spec sheets provided... Lol

http://www.tsbrass.com/overview.php?pid=B-0137&loc_cat=Pre-Rinse+Units

But youd have to have the unit fitted with shorter pipes and an add-on faucet, but i think it work... Just some customization lol.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

The last thing I would want in my house... An elephant trunk that reminds me too much of a commercial kitchen (and I can smell the uncomfortable odor of deep fryer grease, that's worst when I eat something that gets the smell of it on my hands & cannot easily wash off)...!

I happy with the discreet sink-mounted sprayer, or what my faucet tap pulls off & doubles as...

Would rather have my refrigerator, range & dishwasher done in cryptic stainless steel...

-- Dave