syllahosiris
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I need HELP!!! Can anyone give me advice. I am moving to a condo with no washer dryer hook ups. I need a washer and ventless dryer. Any suggestions.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Compact washer and dryer.
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washingpowder
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All ventless dryers available on US market run on 220V, is there a possibility of such connection? Otherwise, either a washer dryer combo (personally, worthless) or a small 110v portable dryer you could vent out the window.
For a washer, do you need it portable per se(on casters)? If not, plenty of full-size, slightly older though, traditional top load washers allow a connection through a Y-adapter; if building's structure permits vibration-wise, even plenty of older front loaders. Otherwise, until recently I was using a GE spacemaker portable; liked the capacity and built-in washable lint filters.
For a washer, do you need it portable per se(on casters)? If not, plenty of full-size, slightly older though, traditional top load washers allow a connection through a Y-adapter; if building's structure permits vibration-wise, even plenty of older front loaders. Otherwise, until recently I was using a GE spacemaker portable; liked the capacity and built-in washable lint filters.
warmsecondrinse
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I was in your situation before. I used a combo that I rolled up to the sink. It worked well for me.
If you are limited to regular 120v plugs, I'd buy a washer/dryer combo AND a small portable dryer you could vent out the window. Wash a full load in the combo, then put half into the dryer and use both units to dry.
Also, both Ebay and Amazon sell heated drying racks. They work exactly like those plug-in portable towel warmers, but are designed a little differently to hold clothing instead of towels. I'd recommend one of those as well.
If you use a combo attached to the sink, you MUST turn off the hot water and run ONLY cold water during the drying cycle. The colder the water, the faster your clothes will dry.
Washingpowder is correct with his inference that details would be helpful.
1. Do you have access to a 240v outlet or just regular outlets (120v)?
2. Do you have room for 2 units? If so could they be separate or would they need to be stacked atop each other?
3. Would you have access to a window though which you could vent a dryer, even if just while you're running it?
4. Would you be hooking up your washer to a kitchen or bathroom faucet?
With more info we can be more helpful.
Jim
If you are limited to regular 120v plugs, I'd buy a washer/dryer combo AND a small portable dryer you could vent out the window. Wash a full load in the combo, then put half into the dryer and use both units to dry.
Also, both Ebay and Amazon sell heated drying racks. They work exactly like those plug-in portable towel warmers, but are designed a little differently to hold clothing instead of towels. I'd recommend one of those as well.
If you use a combo attached to the sink, you MUST turn off the hot water and run ONLY cold water during the drying cycle. The colder the water, the faster your clothes will dry.
Washingpowder is correct with his inference that details would be helpful.
1. Do you have access to a 240v outlet or just regular outlets (120v)?
2. Do you have room for 2 units? If so could they be separate or would they need to be stacked atop each other?
3. Would you have access to a window though which you could vent a dryer, even if just while you're running it?
4. Would you be hooking up your washer to a kitchen or bathroom faucet?
With more info we can be more helpful.
Jim
syllahosiris
Member
i was thinking about the bosch 24 inch washer and the 24" cop act condensation dryer
what do you guys think
what do you guys think
syllahosiris
Member
do you think a condensation dryer will be a big hassle
warmsecondrinse
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Given that condenser dryers are slow, I'd prefer a combo and a dryer to split the drying load.
Second thought: can the 24" Bosch washer be rolled up to a sink? The OP said there are no conventional washer hook-ups.
of course, this'd work if there's space to mount it undercounter...
Jim
Second thought: can the 24" Bosch washer be rolled up to a sink? The OP said there are no conventional washer hook-ups.
of course, this'd work if there's space to mount it undercounter...
Jim
Both Bosch units you mentioned need 208-240V service, but only draw about 12A each. This means you would need a regular conection usually used for a full sized dryer. Than you would need an electrician to split the socket into 2 sockets (so, make 1 into 2). This, for me, sound like a rather expensive option.
If you have the option of a usual 110V+240V laundry setup, but just not enough space, Miele or LGs compact laundry pairs would be the better option as their washers runs at 110V. Both dryers are air cooled condensation dryers.
If you have the space to put a fullsized unit at a permanent place, but only one 110V socket avaible, LGs full size combo would fit.
But if you only have room for a compact unit and it needs to be portable, you will be stuck with a combo. Again, I would recomend LGs combo as it offers the most features.
Any system would of course be expandable with those small 110V dryers to cut dow drying times.
A word on condesation drying: It is a lot of change.
1. Drying takes longer. About 2 hours on a full load. And combos take even longer.
2. Drying will get hotter. You might end up with a lot of shrunken clothes during the first weeks. But you can pretty well adapt if you learn which cycle is suitable for what kind of load.
3. Drying will heat up the space. With the aircooled stand-alone dryers, the heat together with minor amounts of moisture will vent into your living area. This means the set up place has to be verry well ventilated. And, during summer, drying will eventually take longer, or your AC (if there is one) has to work REALLY hard. With the watercooled combos, these problems are less extensive, but on the other hand, drying takes even longer.
4. Drying means more maintanamce. For example, the condenser of the aircooled dryers has to be cleaned about once a month. You have to take it out, put it in the tub\shower, rinse it down and put it back into the dryer.
If you got further questions, feel free to ask!
If you have the option of a usual 110V+240V laundry setup, but just not enough space, Miele or LGs compact laundry pairs would be the better option as their washers runs at 110V. Both dryers are air cooled condensation dryers.
If you have the space to put a fullsized unit at a permanent place, but only one 110V socket avaible, LGs full size combo would fit.
But if you only have room for a compact unit and it needs to be portable, you will be stuck with a combo. Again, I would recomend LGs combo as it offers the most features.
Any system would of course be expandable with those small 110V dryers to cut dow drying times.
A word on condesation drying: It is a lot of change.
1. Drying takes longer. About 2 hours on a full load. And combos take even longer.
2. Drying will get hotter. You might end up with a lot of shrunken clothes during the first weeks. But you can pretty well adapt if you learn which cycle is suitable for what kind of load.
3. Drying will heat up the space. With the aircooled stand-alone dryers, the heat together with minor amounts of moisture will vent into your living area. This means the set up place has to be verry well ventilated. And, during summer, drying will eventually take longer, or your AC (if there is one) has to work REALLY hard. With the watercooled combos, these problems are less extensive, but on the other hand, drying takes even longer.
4. Drying means more maintanamce. For example, the condenser of the aircooled dryers has to be cleaned about once a month. You have to take it out, put it in the tub\shower, rinse it down and put it back into the dryer.
If you got further questions, feel free to ask!
washingpowder
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In my opinion condenser units, or at least the Bosch I had, run a lot cooler than traditional vented dryers. I also noticed a lot less wear on clothes and softer finish; it depends on one's habits and settings though. I admired my Bosch a lot. Only thing, it was prone to roll up bulky items like blankets and sheets.
Combos rarely have lint filters which can cause some issues, use rivers of cold water to dry and don't provide finish as smooth as separate machines; run quite hot too.
It's true that ventless dryers will heat up the space quite significantly; in warmer weather with lack of cool air for the condenser may even take longer than already extended cycle times. There's also requirement for a drain to remove the condensed water.
Having said that, it's a lot easier to just throw the whole load and wait until it's done rather than splitting it into 2 or 3 runs between two machines. The capacity of one bigger unit also allows drying of pillows and comforters, rather impossible in either the small 110V or a combo machine.
If I were you, and had a 220V outlet, I'd get a Bosch pair. Both machines run on 220V, but one plugs the washer into a socket located directly on the dryer so only one physical 220V line is needed. If you have the funds though, Miele or Asko is a significantly better choice in terms of quality and performance. Mind you though, although both of those have heaters, Miele allows hot fill saving some money, Asko always heats from cold(which means a true profile wash each time).
Combos rarely have lint filters which can cause some issues, use rivers of cold water to dry and don't provide finish as smooth as separate machines; run quite hot too.
It's true that ventless dryers will heat up the space quite significantly; in warmer weather with lack of cool air for the condenser may even take longer than already extended cycle times. There's also requirement for a drain to remove the condensed water.
Having said that, it's a lot easier to just throw the whole load and wait until it's done rather than splitting it into 2 or 3 runs between two machines. The capacity of one bigger unit also allows drying of pillows and comforters, rather impossible in either the small 110V or a combo machine.
If I were you, and had a 220V outlet, I'd get a Bosch pair. Both machines run on 220V, but one plugs the washer into a socket located directly on the dryer so only one physical 220V line is needed. If you have the funds though, Miele or Asko is a significantly better choice in terms of quality and performance. Mind you though, although both of those have heaters, Miele allows hot fill saving some money, Asko always heats from cold(which means a true profile wash each time).
Never was aware the new Bosches copied the old Asko system in terms of plugs.
On drying temperatures: I know for sure Bosch on normal temperatur is at pretty much exactly 75°C (or aprrox. 170°F). And haveing owned one, we really dried EVERYTHING at least at the low temp setting (65°C, or 150°F approx.), if not on Mix with low temp (about 60°C, 140°F).
Actually, which Bosch dryer did you have?
On drying temperatures: I know for sure Bosch on normal temperatur is at pretty much exactly 75°C (or aprrox. 170°F). And haveing owned one, we really dried EVERYTHING at least at the low temp setting (65°C, or 150°F approx.), if not on Mix with low temp (about 60°C, 140°F).
Actually, which Bosch dryer did you have?
washingpowder
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Measured the temperatures with a thermometer in the lint filter two years ago, and lost the data. IIRC no setting exceeded 130F, but sure differences between regular and low heat were negligible, something within 5F.
Was often opening the dryer mid-cycle to remove items for ironing while slightly damp or redistribute bedding, and never felt even completely dry clothes to be as hot as those dried in a standard machine or in a combo the landlord had equipped me with at first.
It was a WTE86300US/01, had to sell due to lack of proper wiring in new apartment.
Was often opening the dryer mid-cycle to remove items for ironing while slightly damp or redistribute bedding, and never felt even completely dry clothes to be as hot as those dried in a standard machine or in a combo the landlord had equipped me with at first.
It was a WTE86300US/01, had to sell due to lack of proper wiring in new apartment.
a simple Avanti portable washer and dryer will work wonders for your situation....small enough to store anywhere, from a closet, to the dryer mounting on a stand or the wall.....rolls to the bathroom sink with ease....
and can wash up to a 12 lb load......that's a queen set of sheets...
inexpensive and compact.....
and can wash up to a 12 lb load......that's a queen set of sheets...
inexpensive and compact.....
syllahosiris
Member
There is a closet off the front door that has a common wall with the bathroom sink I can have a 240v set up put in . I can roll the washer to the kitchen sink it is right across from the same closet, I have been looking into portable washers but would like one with a traditional agitator. any suggestions??
Also what about using a traditional dryer and a indoor lint trap filter. I have been doing some research online about these.
Stefan
Also what about using a traditional dryer and a indoor lint trap filter. I have been doing some research online about these.
Stefan
pierreandreply4
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the best unit i could recomend would be that you find a vintage kenmore or whirlpool washer dryer set looking like these and have you ask to see if you where allow to have a washer dryer hookup in stall in the condo you are moving into?
syllahosiris
Member
I would love to find a pair of those. been searching on craigslist. Yes i was told that many other tenants have installed washer with a ventless dryer.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU WONDERFUL GUYS FOR ALL THE INFO.. I knew you would have the all the answers.
Stefan
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU WONDERFUL GUYS FOR ALL THE INFO.. I knew you would have the all the answers.
Stefan
washingpowder
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Stefan, just to make sure, those small, portable 110V dryers *do* need venting. Many people use them with an in-door venting kit, but that leads to excess moisture, plenty of extra heat, and lint issues in your apartment. Since you're renting in Texas I assume, it would cause an enormous burden on your AC.
You'd have to cut out a rectangular piece of plastic or even thicker carton, with a hole in the middle to accommodate the exhaust, and lock it in your window; which is what I used to do with a Whirlpool one.
If you have to roll your washer to the sink, you can't use stackables unfortunately; one of those portable units would work best. Yogitunes suggested an Avanti which looks like a good capacity unit (actually, most front loaders in Europe allow only a 12lb load). I've only had experience with a GE Spacemaker portable, which did a good job; the agitator was a belt-driven straight-vane with long strokes, similar to GE Hydrowave.
Good luck!
You'd have to cut out a rectangular piece of plastic or even thicker carton, with a hole in the middle to accommodate the exhaust, and lock it in your window; which is what I used to do with a Whirlpool one.
If you have to roll your washer to the sink, you can't use stackables unfortunately; one of those portable units would work best. Yogitunes suggested an Avanti which looks like a good capacity unit (actually, most front loaders in Europe allow only a 12lb load). I've only had experience with a GE Spacemaker portable, which did a good job; the agitator was a belt-driven straight-vane with long strokes, similar to GE Hydrowave.
Good luck!
ronhic
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12 lb load......that's a queen set of sheets...
Actually a 12lb load would be:
- 12 single bed cotton sheets
- 3 full sets of queen bed sheets
Actually a 12lb load would be:
- 12 single bed cotton sheets
- 3 full sets of queen bed sheets
laundromat
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LG makes the best washer dryer combos. They need no venting and you can get a portability kit to wheel it back and forth to ad from your sink.
laundromat
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The two available models from LG are:
:
WM3477 2.7 cu ft 24"wide
and
WM3997 4.4 cu ft 27"wide
Ten year motor warranty on each.
FYI
If you remove half the load after the final spin, the clothes dry faster. Average cycle time is 2 hours.
:
WM3477 2.7 cu ft 24"wide
and
WM3997 4.4 cu ft 27"wide
Ten year motor warranty on each.
FYI
If you remove half the load after the final spin, the clothes dry faster. Average cycle time is 2 hours.
Chris.....
yeah, that 12lb load would probably hold more....but it was to give an idea of what this actual machine could hold and/or wash with ease.....
ApplianceLou has one, and we tested a number of loads, and was amazed at what it could wash, and had great turnover......
that 800rpm spin was a nice option as well......
actually this one had numerous variations of wash cycles....Wash, Soak, one Rinse or two, spin rinses or deep rinses, and extended spins.....
detergent, bleach and fabric softener dispenser built in.....most TL units don't have these...
convertible as well.....I like this model in particular.....W797
yeah, that 12lb load would probably hold more....but it was to give an idea of what this actual machine could hold and/or wash with ease.....
ApplianceLou has one, and we tested a number of loads, and was amazed at what it could wash, and had great turnover......
that 800rpm spin was a nice option as well......
actually this one had numerous variations of wash cycles....Wash, Soak, one Rinse or two, spin rinses or deep rinses, and extended spins.....
detergent, bleach and fabric softener dispenser built in.....most TL units don't have these...
convertible as well.....I like this model in particular.....W797
