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Remember the vast predominance of Internet reviews will ALWAYS skew negative on any product. People that are truly pleased with any given item seldom ever take to the Interwebs to bother to write glowing reviews. On the flip side if people are unhappy with a product (even if they are the cause) they will write a negative review where ever they can! While doing research via reading the forums on the Internet is a good thing, you must be very careful with how you interpret the data. You can't be sure what the sample really is. Analysis based on flawed data is ultimately flawed.

Indeed there is a class action suit due to the "stinky washer" syndrome, and very likely they will prevail over the manufacturers. In this litigious society that we now live in the courts often side with people that don't have common sense. Get burned by hot coffee and get a check...

The people that pay attention to their laundry and are able to adjust their habits to properly use a front load machine don't have any stinky washer problems. I have known people to develop stinky top loaders too, its NOT the machine.

Your opening message stated that "NO WAY IN HELL" would you get a front load machine so clearly your decision was already made. The SQ top load machine is indeed the best modern version of a traditional top load machine. You are likely to be pleased with it in the long run. But there are distinct advantages to a front loading machine which you just can't get with a top load machine. Coloring front load machines as being bad due to others improper usage is a shame. Most all of Europe and almost all commercial laundry can't be wrong.
 
Front load

Other then a Speed Queen front load or good European front load with a built in heater I would never touch anything else. The majority of front loads on the market today are imo not worth it. Life expectancy, having to leave to door open, wet nap washing, no heater (ok I will admit Speed Queen does not have on yet), poor hair/lint removal, long cycle times, average cleaning and the like keep me away from most front loads.

Granted some people do not know how to properly use a font load, but the garbage being pushed onto American consumers is another problem all together.

Water guzzling top loads are simply the best in many ways and I do not blame those who stick to them.
 
Robert,
Use your common sense
Anybody knows that ,if you turn off a refrigerator or freezer and not leave the door ajar,you'll get mildew and mold. Front AND top loading washers do the same thing. Top loaders have build up on the outer tub interior. Take apart any Whirlpool line washer and you'll see it foemed.on the plastic liner of the outer tub. The front loaders line, LG or Electrodaire,GE or Samsung,all have the magnet.to leave the door ajar without it swinging out too far. The Whirlpool products have a door that isn't as free moving as.the rest and may be left open a bit without swinging all the way out and in the way. If.one.follows the simple directions of wiping the boot and leaving the door ajar,no mildew will ever begin growing because the humidity and moisture are evaporated. My front loaders of all brands, Frigidaire GE, Maytag, LG, Asko, Westinghouse,Miele, Bosch, and Philco of Italy , never.,never,ever got any kind of growth in them. I always left the doors open and wiped the rubber boot to keep everything fresh and ready to use again.
In my sales profession, I taught my customers who bought the front loaders and or the combination front load LGs,how to do their wash on these and how to maintain them. Those who followed through were never heard from again. Those who didn't were always calling to pitch a bitch about,mold or a smelly washer. I'd have them get some Spray 9, pour about two cups of it into the dispenser and do a hot wash/warm rinse cycle.w/out any clothes. Then, leave the door and tray ajar overnight. After that,they kept it open when not in use. The.dispute with Whirlpool should be dropped because the reasoning is more customer error or misuse. Not the fault of the manufacturer. Read the use and care guides. They'rethere for a reason.
 
A co worker of mine

got married to a gal in Austintown OH over the weekend. They are going to replace the oft repaired Samsung FL machine. They ordered at SQ TL, don't recall the model but it is the one with the electronic panel.

ESTIMATED, repeat ESTIMATED delivery is 3rd week of October due to the demand for these things. Dealer told them he cannot keep any SQ TL in stock. They did not mention if they looked at the FL machine or not.

Seems the word is getting out about SQ.................which is a good thing for 1300 workers in Ripon Wisc.
 
Landromat...

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I enjoy reading your posts, and do so beyond day dreaming about living in Hilo someday.
As the ranking resident spokesperson/cheerleader for LG laundry in these parts (imo and meant as a compliment) i have to say the one grain of salt i take with your comments is the incredibly low price you obtain broken LG's.
I mean, ya, for $40 or what have you, i'd be smiling too!
I do the same thing with vacuums btw, all sorts of stuff i can get for pennies compared to retail...albeit broken and dirty. No problemo i can tear it down and make it right.
That said if you didn't have the skills to fix, or access to nearly new busted LG's in apparent plentiful supply --a red flag right there to some as far as buying a new one-- what might you buy?
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Artie

LOL. You don't have "to buy it" from me. You already bought your SQ TL. Congrats and enjoy it.

I wouldn't touch a TL HE washer either. But I am a FL convert and I get better results than I did with previous TLs. We all have our own experiences and opinions. But I firmly believe almost all complaints about FLs are caused by the user not following directions.
 
I'm glad you are happy with your purchase.

That said, a lot of the issues we are seeing with HE machines is failure to adjust to the way they work.

Its often said here that doing laundry requires a combination of Mechanical action, Chemical action, Time and Temperature (which works in proportion to chemical action). Reduce any, and another must increase.
Therefore, the newer HE machines have less mechanical action (i.e. FL's are gentler on clothes). So the others must be increased to compensate. As such, we now have "concentrated" detergent loadings, longer cycles and hopefully enough temperature.

The problem becomes that people don't want to spend the time to wash their clothes. A "Quick Cycle," like on ANY automatic washing machine (Dishwasher or otherwise) is not intended for heavily soiled clothes. Nor is cold water.
As such, people are creating for themselves a recipe for disaster. And it happens, and it thus becomes "The Washer's Fault."

3 years ago now, we switched to a Miele FL from our ailing Simpson TL machine. Due to some plumbing issues, the old machine could only use cold water. Even on the full cycle, results were "good enough," but the machine was slowly developing an odor issue. And so were clothes.

The Miele, despite longer cycles and less water usage, got rid of this quickly. Due in thanks to WARM water!

Our clothes are also lasting lots longer now, too.

What Phil (kb0nes) highlighted, above, rings oh-so-true.
 
I've always used a traditional (except for a year in 1980) but I've never done a *quick* wash. Every load I do is agitated for 1/2 a cycle than soaked for anywhere from30 minutes to all night. I always felt I was letting the enzymes and sodium percarbonate have time to do its job and getting it done in a much more gentle way. But I think I'm the exception rather than the rule. I know a lot of people that would never take the time it requires to get clothes as clean as they could, yet bemoan the fact they can't get stains out..cheryl
 
After switching to a FL almost 10 years ago it would be hard to go back. I have at times considered a SQ top load but it would have to be in addition to a FL. But I have to say after 3 years I still don't like my LG. I was much happier with the Kenmore badged Frigidaire that it replaced. I just can't accept the fact that after 10+ minutes into the cycle all the clothes are not even wet. Way too much "sensing" and "pulsing" to fill with water. Doing 3 loads day we just don't have the time for it. I'm sure a SQ FL would be more suitable.
 

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