cookmaster crisis!

[dalangdon]

A wolf has crept to the door of my idyllic new flair! While the convenience outlet works, I can't get it to work with the cookmaster. The owner's manual sheds no light on what might be happening, but the owner's manual I have is several models behind this model. Any thoughts?

And speaking of owner's manuals: The only owner's manual I have ever seen for a flair is the one with the lady with the crown on her head standing by the stove. Did later models have a different manual?

Thanks for any info!

Dan

 

[coldspot66]

Hi Dan,

If I'm not mistaken(I may be), I think the cookmaster just controls a time bake function of the oven. I could be wrong.

 

[gansky1]

Yes, it's only the oven.

 

[dalangdon]

Don't make me quote the manual... ;-)

Oh, why not...it says:

"Appliance Outlet" Located at right above surface unit cover. Lets you plug in a coffee maker, toaster, other small appliances at range. For automatic control, by the "Cookmaster" see page 19.

and page 19 (which I don't have scanned yet) says just set the thing like you would if you were using the oven, but don't set the oven.

But, as I pointed out, I have an earlier version of the Flair manual.

As it stands right now, In normal operation (cookmaster set to "manual") the outlet works. But If I set the cookmaster, the outlet doesn't work, even during the time it's supposed to be working.

It's not that big a deal, but since John gets up at 4am every morning, I thought it would be nice to set up the percolator for him.

http://danlangdon.com/flairmanual/page45.pdf

 

[appnut]

Dan, there's always a confusing "gotcha" in setting that delayed time start & stop. Double check all your steps as if you were gonna delay time bake in the oven as epr manual. I've been nkown to get confused and screw up a few times cuz it can be frustrating. And remember to do it with "flair".

 

[petek]

So is it supposed to be a delayed start feature only which would explain why there's no power when you set the cookmaster dial?

 

[dalangdon]

Here's what I'm doing:

About 10pm or so I set up the coffee pot.

I set the "end cook time" (4am)

I set the "hours to cook" (1 hour)

I plug in the coffee pot. No power to is (as it should be.)

At 3am, the coffee should start, right? Well, This is where it all goes horribly, horribly wrong)

I wake up at 4am and stumble out to the kitchen The power is off on the coffeemaker, and no coffee has been made.

I turn the "cookmaster" to "manual" and the coffeemaker starts up.

John comes into the kitchen and looks disappointed that the coffee is not made

I avoid domestic violence by going back to bed and crying myself to sleep (ok, maybe I don't cry myself to sleep, but it sounds dramatic, doesnt't it?).

 

[gansky1]

What model do you have now, Dan? I'll pull out the service doctrine and scan it for you...

 

[dalangdon]

It is a RCIH-645.

Thanks, Greg!

 

[petek]

This is all too much for television, call me when it's fixed LOL

 

[gansky1]

Well, the wealth of information I expected to find on the Cookmaster controls for your range simply wasn't there. Going all the way back to 1956 and forward to the late 60's, there is only a mention of the control as a feature of the ranges, how to replace the clock motor or the entire control itself. It does state that the Cookmaster does control the appliance receptacle, but nothing more about diagnosis, etc. I guess we can conclude that possibly your control is bad - at least when it is used for the appliance receptacle, have you tried using it for the oven?

 

[toggleswitch]

on my Caloric the mechanical control timer

DELAY START went bad.
DELAY STOP Was fine.

Once delay start was initialted I could not get ot to "CANCEL"

maybe same issue?

 

[dalangdon]

Mystery solved!?!?!

For some reason, the "cookmaster" thinks that it's an hour later than it is (maybe it didn't understand the time change?) so if I set it for 3am instead of 4am, it *should* work. I know you are all anxious to know what happens, so I will post something as soon as I find out, but be sure to get some rest ;-)

 

[dalangdon]

btw, Greg - does your information happen to mention where the fuses are on this model?

 

[dalangdon]

Now I've done it.....

So I woke up this morning, and went to check on the percolater. Of course, it wasn't working, so I started to slowly turn the "end cook" dial. I came on when I hit 6 or so, but then I heard this buzzing noise from the clock area - not a good buzzing either, it sounded sort of like arcing. So turned it to manual. But it was too late. now neither the large oven or convenience outlet works!

I'm going to take the front off and take a look tomorrow. Hopefully I didn't break anything permanent-like. The clock and timer still work, so it might be a matter of just bypassing the cookmaster control.

 

[toggleswitch]

Careful there tiger.

Don't want 220v in a 110v outlet!!!!!

 

[dalangdon]

But wouldn't that just make everything cook twice as fast? ;-)

 

[toggleswitch]

4th of July came early (late?) this year.

uh... try it and see.. LOL

When I was in Paris a few years back there were some young ladies from Michigan TRYING to do laundry in a front-loader. First they had ever seen. They thought the laundromat had dryers only. I pointed out the washers to them [pointing and gesturing as if I spoke no English, of course,... TE HE HE HE)and faked in French "un petite peu" (just a little bit) when adding my detergent to my machine, so they'd get the point. Dumber than a box of rocks. LOL SUDS everywhere. LOL ROFL LMAO

They were heard discussing having plugged their (American) hair-dryers into French outlets with only a pin converter.

MELTDOWN! SPARKS! FLAMES!
Quite entertaining. And still they had no idea why.

 

[toggleswitch]

I mean buy hair dryers and irons there and plug it in here. B/B no prob! Just slower to heat.