matchboxpaul
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Was this Creda's first foray into washing machines?
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matchboxpaul
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Rebranded again from Parnall, being a Parnall Spinwasher...
matchboxpaul
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Here is the TD59 Parnall Autodry from which the Creda was derived...
matchboxpaul
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and the Parnall TD67 Auto-dry compact dryer, available in 1969...
matchboxpaul
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which went on to provide the basis of the first version Creda TD275, from circa 1973...
matchboxpaul
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Trying to fathom Creda out!
Were the Laundrair pair, Creda's first washer and dryer?
When the Laundrair washer was discontinued, did Creda fall out of the washing machine market until the introduction of the first square door machine? I dont know of any Creda washing machine between these two models.
Who owned Creda back in the 60s and what was the relationship with Parnall, to see them gradually take over the Parnall range of dryers and eventually replace the Parnall name with their own?
I am really in the mood for learning
Paul
Were the Laundrair pair, Creda's first washer and dryer?
When the Laundrair washer was discontinued, did Creda fall out of the washing machine market until the introduction of the first square door machine? I dont know of any Creda washing machine between these two models.
Who owned Creda back in the 60s and what was the relationship with Parnall, to see them gradually take over the Parnall range of dryers and eventually replace the Parnall name with their own?
I am really in the mood for learning
Paul
optima
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Paul, Here in Cumbria Creda Washers & Dryers were our top sellers especially when the brand was owned by GDA. The Jackson by Creda J1000 1000 spin washer basically a Hotpoint WM52 First Edition but about £60 cheaper was a very big seller along with the Supaspeed,Simplicity,Advance,Excel range & the early COLOURS range of dark blue & olive green. Cookers also sold very well the Creda Capri,Menu,Concept,Hallmark & Expressions range. Yes they was a vast range of Creda appliances back then until Merloni took over then they started reducing the range just to basically concentrate on Indesit.
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Paul
As far as I know, there was not a direct link between Creda and Parnall in the early 1960s, but it would not be a surprise that Creda "badged" Parnall dryers. I was just looking over some old Creda brochures earlier tonight and at the time of the Laundaire pair Creda seems to have been a brand of Simplex. Well spotted that these were Parnall machines.
Later on they were branded as part of the TI (Tube Investments) group. Parnall were part of the Radiation group along with Jackson cookers. Late on in the 1960s the Radiation group was bought over by TI, the Parnall name was dropped and, as you correctly note above, their small drier was re-branded as Creda, which had a fit with the long running Debonair and Autopump spin driers.
Jackson cookers continued until the mid 1970s (and there was even some overlap between models) when the Jackson name was dropped although some models continued under the Creda name - noteably the "Topline". Jackson re-appeared in the mid-1980 as (I think) TOL Creda built-ins, although against the onslaught of German ovens at that time, they did not last long.
I got the Creda built in brochure that was being sold by the same person you got the washers brochure from, dated 11/77 they were still part of TI at that time.
Al
Paul
As far as I know, there was not a direct link between Creda and Parnall in the early 1960s, but it would not be a surprise that Creda "badged" Parnall dryers. I was just looking over some old Creda brochures earlier tonight and at the time of the Laundaire pair Creda seems to have been a brand of Simplex. Well spotted that these were Parnall machines.
Later on they were branded as part of the TI (Tube Investments) group. Parnall were part of the Radiation group along with Jackson cookers. Late on in the 1960s the Radiation group was bought over by TI, the Parnall name was dropped and, as you correctly note above, their small drier was re-branded as Creda, which had a fit with the long running Debonair and Autopump spin driers.
Jackson cookers continued until the mid 1970s (and there was even some overlap between models) when the Jackson name was dropped although some models continued under the Creda name - noteably the "Topline". Jackson re-appeared in the mid-1980 as (I think) TOL Creda built-ins, although against the onslaught of German ovens at that time, they did not last long.
I got the Creda built in brochure that was being sold by the same person you got the washers brochure from, dated 11/77 they were still part of TI at that time.
Al
Thanks, Paul. My machine has two big dials, one labeled Economy Temp which goes from no heat to 200F. The other is labeled Wash Program. The cycles go A-G. The little label inside the door says: Model 17064E and under that: CHA242. The number under that is 21173555. There are 4 buttons labeled from the right: ON, SLOW SPIN, SUPER WASH (higher water level), WASH RINSE HOLD. There is also a nice rectangular red Power On light between the dials. I love the flexibility of choosing the temperature independently of the wash cycle. I am sort of fearful of the durability of the machine. It saw use before I got it and it served me well after my first Miele died so she is very semi-retired, a status which I feel she has earned.
matchboxpaul
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Hi Craig.
Absolutely! Much like all the old UK appliance names - either a shadow of their former selves or no longer sold:-(
I know the machines you refer to - piccy of the Jackson machine below. I was the proud owner of a Hotpoint WM52 and can say that it was a great machine that did all a house of 4 new graduates required of it.
Jackson became the posh name which, as far as I understand it, was used in the early to mid 80s for the semi integrated offerings from TI, although the Jackson dishwasher was a Philips.
Will post some piccies of them soon.
Paul
Absolutely! Much like all the old UK appliance names - either a shadow of their former selves or no longer sold:-(
I know the machines you refer to - piccy of the Jackson machine below. I was the proud owner of a Hotpoint WM52 and can say that it was a great machine that did all a house of 4 new graduates required of it.
Jackson became the posh name which, as far as I understand it, was used in the early to mid 80s for the semi integrated offerings from TI, although the Jackson dishwasher was a Philips.
Will post some piccies of them soon.
Paul
When I saw that venting adapter along side the dryer without it, I thought we were being shown the difference between a partially and fully dialated cervix of some giant animal.
matchboxpaul
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Thanks for the info Al.
Its always useful to try and put things into some sort of order and, with the business structure and many subsidiaries of TI, understanding where Creda fits in is a tad more complicated than the norm.
Its only recently that I looked at the Laundrair dryer and it just slapped me across the face that it was a Parnall.
Its probably got something to do with the recent discussions that have taken place concerning the Parnall TD59, that made me realise.
Then looked at the washer and it was a Parnall Spinwasher!
You mention Jackson - here the advert from 1984...
Its always useful to try and put things into some sort of order and, with the business structure and many subsidiaries of TI, understanding where Creda fits in is a tad more complicated than the norm.
Its only recently that I looked at the Laundrair dryer and it just slapped me across the face that it was a Parnall.
Its probably got something to do with the recent discussions that have taken place concerning the Parnall TD59, that made me realise.
Then looked at the washer and it was a Parnall Spinwasher!
You mention Jackson - here the advert from 1984...
hotpoint95622
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Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03
Paul,
Shell re-spray.
I gave the company a rocket today, last week I sent a polite email enquiring as to weather it had been completed, no reply, I sent another and again no reply, then I started to get a bit sweaty, OMG have they gone into receivership or even lost the panels. So I paid them a visit today, gladly still in operation, funny how you start to think the worst of a situation, any how the stripping company are the problem, and the panels should be back from them tomorrow, re-coated later that day, so should be ready to collect this Friday.
Fingers crossed.
Lee
Paul,
Shell re-spray.
I gave the company a rocket today, last week I sent a polite email enquiring as to weather it had been completed, no reply, I sent another and again no reply, then I started to get a bit sweaty, OMG have they gone into receivership or even lost the panels. So I paid them a visit today, gladly still in operation, funny how you start to think the worst of a situation, any how the stripping company are the problem, and the panels should be back from them tomorrow, re-coated later that day, so should be ready to collect this Friday.
Fingers crossed.
Lee
matchboxpaul
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Hi Tom.
I had assumed that your 17064E was maybe a machine sold over here and then taken abroad when the owners emigrated, but you mentioning that it has the temperatures listed in fahrenheit, rather than centigrade, maybe means that it was something a bit different.
Maybe the 'E' means export?
Paul
I had assumed that your 17064E was maybe a machine sold over here and then taken abroad when the owners emigrated, but you mentioning that it has the temperatures listed in fahrenheit, rather than centigrade, maybe means that it was something a bit different.
Maybe the 'E' means export?
Paul
matchboxpaul
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Hi Lee.
Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!
Cant wait to see it all come back together again.
Paul
Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!
Cant wait to see it all come back together again.
Paul
matchboxpaul
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CREDA...
righty oh - lets give this a go.
The 1st machines - the Laundrair washer and dryer...
righty oh - lets give this a go.
The 1st machines - the Laundrair washer and dryer...
matchboxpaul
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Theory...
The Laundrair washing machine was discontinued and Creda ceased to have its name on a washing machine for a number of years.
However they stayed stuck hard and fast to tumble dryers and of course spinners.
The absorbtion of Parnall saw them adopt the Parnall TD67 as their compact dryer...
The Laundrair washing machine was discontinued and Creda ceased to have its name on a washing machine for a number of years.
However they stayed stuck hard and fast to tumble dryers and of course spinners.
The absorbtion of Parnall saw them adopt the Parnall TD67 as their compact dryer...
matchboxpaul
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and create the TD275 Creda Compact tumble dry...
matchboxpaul
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which developed into the 2nd generation Creda TD275...
matchboxpaul
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and spawned the electra version TD275 for the electricity board shops...
matchboxpaul
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as well as this version - the TD275E...
matchboxpaul
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The TD275 grew taller and wider and developed into the TD400...
hotpoint95622
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Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03
Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!
Too bloody right, I have been waiting for one for years, it’s not slipping out of my grip this time, fallen out with her-in-doors over it as well, found out how much it cost to buy in the first place and had to confess to how much the re-paint is costing, ho well not to worry, usual sentence of a you no what ban, in other words no early nights for a week or too or even three.
I have got to smuggle in the next item as well, just got a Hoover constellation from ebay, will arrive some time next week, being delivered to my work so it can slip under the radar in the dead of night, must oil the runners on the garage door so it runs silently.
Lee
Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!
Too bloody right, I have been waiting for one for years, it’s not slipping out of my grip this time, fallen out with her-in-doors over it as well, found out how much it cost to buy in the first place and had to confess to how much the re-paint is costing, ho well not to worry, usual sentence of a you no what ban, in other words no early nights for a week or too or even three.
I have got to smuggle in the next item as well, just got a Hoover constellation from ebay, will arrive some time next week, being delivered to my work so it can slip under the radar in the dead of night, must oil the runners on the garage door so it runs silently.
Lee
matchboxpaul
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and the TD400A Sensamatic - was this the UK's first programmable sensing dryer?
matchboxpaul
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Here is my TD275 Compact...
matchboxpaul
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and the TD400A, kindly provided by Gary (electron1100) who saved it from certain death, when it was taken to the tip where he works.
I remember that it was mentioned that this very machine MIGHT have been a prototype or very early production machine and that it was taken to the tip by an ex-creda employee...
I remember that it was mentioned that this very machine MIGHT have been a prototype or very early production machine and that it was taken to the tip by an ex-creda employee...
matchboxpaul
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stainless steel drum...
matchboxpaul
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the sensing device...
matchboxpaul
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The plastic baffle on the bottom of the door vent scoops expelled air and passes it back over the sensing device....
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