Cutlery Basket vs. Cutlery Drawer

[henene4]

Nice!

So, everyting ended well. She got clean cuttlery without changing her habbits.
If she wants to, you could order her a matching cuttlery basket and unistall the drawer so she got a fitting basket and more space in the top rack. But if she is fine this way, thats ok.

 

[foraloysius]

If your mother prerinses everything she'd better start using less detergent. Perhaps half a W5 tab is more than enough. A full tablet of detergent will eat the innards of the dishwasher in the end.

A friend of mine, who prerinses religiously, had a motor destructed by his prerinse regime. The motor of his Miele dishwasher died after ten years. The first thing the Miele repairman asked was if he prerinsed. He confirmed that. The Miele man replaced the motor and said to him he would be back if he continued prerinsing. I think the dishwasher lasted another nine years, but he doesn't use it frequently because he is single.

My friend bought a new Miele dishwasher. I bet this one will not last longer than ten years. He is still prerinsing. And because the newer one uses less water, the detergent solution is stronger. Most likely he will have problems again.

I never prerinse. My AEG 6060 lasted 18.5 years. The motor was still working, I got rid of it because I got a good deal for a new Miele. And the racks of the AEG started rusting. The AEG motor was just as silent as the day I bought it!

 

[mrboilwash]

Henene I`m afraid a new cutlery basket alone would not fit any better, because the problem lies in the bottom rack`s additional spikes. But it seems to work for her and as you said everything ended well. She still uses the drawer for things like spatulas and so on.

Louis thanks for your input. Now that you mention it, I remember about your friend`s Miele. My Mother always got a lifespan of 10 to 15 years out of her dishwashers in the past, not too bad. Excessive etching has never been a problem anymore since those highly caustic chlorinated detergents were replaced by milder enzyme based ones about 20 years ago. But I agree, a little less detergent probably wouldn`t hurt either.

Personally I only prerinse when I won`t start the DW the same day, but I don`t bother with prerinsing otherwise. And I stay clear of the automatic cycle unless the load is really dirty.

I am so glad my 12 year old Bosch is still going strong so I don`t have to decide for a particular cutlery system.

 

[henene4]

We couldn't be without Auto...

We use Auto since our last Siemens DW non stop. We have been prerinsing, but stopped 2 years ago as we got our new Bosch. And the Auto cycle practicly never let us down. Which cycle do you use? We tried Eco this whole january and stopped again as the dishes and the DW develloped this undefineable "clean, but not as clean as it should be" feeling and smell, just as clothes washed at to low temps or in overloaded washers do. I guess it was the higher temp that made the difference.

 

[mrboilwash]

The Eco cycle is my favorite because glasses look better with "Prerinse-Wash-Purge-Rinse-Purge-Final rinse" than with "Wash-Rinse-Final rinse" when the sensor detects a light soil level.
The final rinse temperature of Eco seems to keep the DW clean, but I still use the Auto occasionally (maybe once a month) to be on the safe side.

 

[logixx]

I`m afraid a new cutlery basket alone would not fit any better, because the problem lies in the bottom rack`s additional spikes.

 

The current cutlery baskets are made to fit all BSH dishwashers. They can no longer be separated like the old ones, though - which is why I ordered one of the older ones off of eBay.

 

 

[mrboilwash]

Thanks Alex, I was not aware of the sliding system.

Someone is going to get an unexpected present soon.