What happens in the kitchen sink should stay in the kitchen sink. Different dynamics of cleaning. Dawn in the diswasher with Cascade just sucks, and is just a marketing ploy. Cascade alone will cut grease and clean with the right water temp. and rinse aid dispenser. A quarter ounce of "Dawn" just looks nice in the packet, and may be in fact blue colored gel water. Now they want an additonal additive? Foolish stuff, put it in the powder to begin with P&G. You are trying too hard to compete with Electorsol, and you don't have to.