New Cascade commercial and Cascade Platinum Plus massively oversudsing dishwasher

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maytaga806

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I’m sure everyone has had to see the new commercials for Cascade. I’m talking about the Brand Power commercial, where the blonde lady says “did you know there’s a detergent that gets your dishes up to 100% clean? Even in an older dishwasher”. I felt that they’re trying to insinuate that older dishwashers don’t work well and I just can’t fathom where they get that from, they used more water, bigger motors, and were much quicker than todays machines. Why wouldn’t it work well in an older dishwasher? It’s just a pretty stupid statement to make for an advertisement.

The fact I’ve found in my case is that the Platinum Plus does not work well in older dishwashers in SOFT water conditions. It completely oversudsed my Powerclean to the point it started dripping out the front and the motor was really struggling, I had to cancel and drain immediately. I recently moved into a home where I have pretty soft water, and before I moved I was somewhere that had really gross city water that was very hard and the platinum plus worked just fine there with the specific water I had and never got this sudsy. It even gets way too sudsy in our new built in crappy GE dishwasher. Don’t they understand how to get this corrected? This has been ongoing for years and years and years. Anytime I use Finish or the store brand pacs they never produce even a small layer of suds, nothing. I’ve always wondered is it the ratio of Dawn they put in these actionpacs. I can’t imagine how many dishwashers are getting too sudsy with unsuspecting consumers using this product in soft water conditions and it goes undetected. This is my favorite kind I was using, the Mountian scent. As a side note, P&G nailed that scent. It’s so earthy and reminds me of the scent in the air outside before a storm. But I can’t use them anymore so I switched back to powder Cascade which doesn’t produce any sudsing.

One last thing. With the new ge dishwasher it came with two platinum plus actionpacs in the fresh scent and these were pretty stale, they had to of been atleast a year old the powder was yellow and they smelled kind of gross but I decided to use them anyway and there were little to no suds! Bizarre.

Anyways, just some interesting thoughts I decided to share and I’m sure some can relate!

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Cleans well, even an older dishwashers

I think that’s a fair marketing statement to make many people feel like the dishwashers they have won’t clean like what is being shown to them in detergent ads for new dishwashers so there’s nothing wrong with letting people know that their old dishwashers can clean well.

Overall, most dishwashers have worked very well for several decades now, but there are definitely some machines that are subpar compared to the better machines of yesterday and today,basic GE dishwashers with the pop-up tower were never great performers. They certainly didn’t hold a lot. We are maintaining an apartment building on capital hill where there’s 30 1995 basic GE dishwashers and even with brand new pumps and motors and inlet valves Tenants are just not happy with them so we’re starting to replace them with basic whirlpool dishwashers and even though they use half as much water, they’re thrilled with the cleaning performance in comparison to the GEs.

Sudsing does continue to be a problem with cascade premium tablets, I bought a jar of simethicone tablets, and I put one in with the detergent in the dispenser that solves the problem nicely, but the better solution is just a buy more reasonably priced detergent I use Costco’s Pods in my old whirlpools and they work fine.

John
 
I'm convinced that pods and tablets are designed for hard water areas. A good quality powder is about the only option for soft water areas, especially in older machines.

I lived in an area with some of the hardest water in the country and I could get away with pods in the Powerclean but the KDS-18/19/20 would sudslock within 1-1.5 minutes.
 
Cascade Platinum

incorporates a cleaning agent that gradually breaks down hard water build up in the dishwasher. So over time, the machines performance can improve.

-LP
 
The same thing happens with Cascade Complete on my dishwasher and I have soft water as well. I didn't even noticed it was an issue until someone here pointed it out because it's been working fine honestly. But unless if they go on a massive sale, I don't plan to buy anymore for a while and stick with Kirkland cause there's a huge price difference. I seem to recall when I tried out Finish Quantum there was no oversudsing but I never liked the scent of it even though it cleaned great so I don't plan on buying anymore of Finish unless if they make a free & clear kind like Cascade.
 
I recently give up pods all together and went back to Cascade powder. I was using finish tabs and noticed that my stainless coffee mug had a soapy taste. I have a relatively new Kitchenaid which cleans very well otherwise. I find almost all pods don’t clean very well although Cascade Platinum plus worked best, but was very pricey.
 
Cascade Platinum Plus

I'm done with Cascade Platinum Plus not because of the cleaning power, but because it caused the pump in my dishwasher to choke on suds. That's why I switched to Finish Ultimate and all Finish products. I wouldn't have a problem using Cascade Platinum Plus and Power Dry in a dishwasher that uses plenty of water.
 

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