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Kevinpreston3

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Past threads made me think how we don't have TVs or stereos built as furniture anymore...everything is a component. I can understand that, as technology changes, people's taste in furniture changes, etc.

It also made me think how differently people look at furnishings and decorating.

Here are some of the ways I have seen people decorate, and each of them makes me slightly ill:

1) Country/flowers, cat tails in vases, bad oak veneer furniture, neutral colors, safe colors such as blue and "camel". Laura Ashley in the bedrooms, little cartoon elephants/Hallmarkesque drawings in the bathrooms. This was my ex-wife's motif. Yech.

2) White walls, with God forbid a Leroy Neiman print over the fireplace. Maybe other prints on the floor, leaning against the wall, because they saw that on a show. A Madonna coffee table book. An 80s waterbed, but not a cool one. And a cockatoo in the corner who is not well taken care of, with feathers and seed all over the place.

3) The model home look, done badly. This may include vast arrays of glass vases on bookshelves way up high, $300 pillows on the couch, one of those ugly glass coffee tables with chrome cylinders for legs, bottles of potpourri, pressed twigs in glass, an arrangement of books on a bookcase with the last book propped “just so” to act as a bookend, bad track lighting, and a kitchen that has absolutely every gadget you can imagine for food preparation. There is an immaculate Sub Zero fridge and Viking stove, and it stays clean because no one in the house cooks. They order in or go out every night.

4) The HGTV home look. Mustard walls with violet trim, because someone said that it looks good. Everything in the bathroom is bad faux gold. Cheap hanging lamps that are supposed to look cool, but are basically bulbs hanging on wires. Homemade "Shadow boxes" filled with junk, and not very well done. Waterfalls made out of an aquarium pump pumping water down a piece of glass or wood and catching in a plastic tray. Rooms that have a lot of nice furniture in them, none of which are comfortable, and none of them you are supposed to sit in. Walls that have had some sort of straw glued to them and then painted over. Fireplaces that have fake jewels pressed into the mortar. Rooms painted red. Bad striped patterns. Paper cutouts glued to the ceiling and painted. And people who have all this and make fun of YOUR taste.

Things like that.

Now, what kind of decorating do I like?

I look around at some of the pictures of the writers’ homes here. Let me give you my perception of cool--seen here and in other places.

1) Anyone who would take an old streetlight and rewire it, and save it, THAT is cool.

2) Someone who puts a vintage jukebox in his or her living room.

3) Someone who had a vintage 50s turquoise bathroom--and kept it.

4) People who restore a REAL shadowbox and hang it over their fireplace.

5) People with a vintage hi fi in their living room.

6) People with a touch of Polynesia around their wetbar in the family room/rec room.

7) An Eldon Bowl-a-Matic sitting out in the rec room. Doesn't match anything, it's just cool.

8) Heywood Wakefield furniture all through the house, and the owner could care less if any of it "matches". (that would be me)

9) Someone who pulls back ugly, static-y Berber carpet to find original wood floors, restores them and enjoys them.

10) Someone who has a whole basement full of vintage washers and dryers. Very few things cooler than that, except for maybe a garage full of Hemi Superbirds. For me the world breaks down to two types of people. Those who love a basement full of antique appliances, (whether they are the owners or just like the idea) and people who wrinkle up their noses and say things like "what do you want a bunch of old appliances/cars/furniture for?"

Guess what kind of people I like to spend my time with?
 
vintage bathroom

I have a vintage 50's pink bathroom....and wouldn't do away with it for anything...I even have a pink Princess phone (for phoning from the throne, of course).
 
50's modern is the cool - est

My wife and I live in a 1957 ranch home in PA. and it barely changed from the day it was built. Walking in through our turquoise and white front living room, your eye will catch our early 60's Zenith stereo and 1963 re-cline-o-lounger with de-luxe vibration for your aching back comfort. On the wall hangs a Welby De-lux starburst clock and matching harlequin chalkware. Next room is the pink kitchen with vinyl turquoise flooring. Soon we will have matching pink Hotpoint appliances installed (wall oven and frig). The bathroom is original pink and gray tile with poodle curtains and fish chalkware adorning the pink walls. This is only half of it! Yes, there is a tiki bar in the basement.
 
Saving 50's ramblers.... tough job.

I am currently in a struggle to save a nearly pristine 1954 rambler from what would almost certainly be a horrible "updating".

My neighbors have lived in the house since it was built, and have moved in with their kids over in the suburbs. The kids, themselves in their 60's, are trying to get the place cleaned out to list it in July. I offered them a very good price for them to just walk away and leave the mess (taking the stuff they want, of course) but one of the son-in-laws has visions of dollar signs dancing in his head.

I fear that just for listing it they will replace the appliances ( which include a fabulous 50's "Sheer look" Frigidaire Imperial refrigerator and several generations of Washing Machines, btw) and I hate to think of what any buyers might do to the poor thing. It has a knotty pine living room, great tile counters in the kitchen, a pink tiled bathroom, and some great vintage light fixtures.

Sadly, for a variety of reasons, I don't think they will get much more for the house than what I offered them, once the realtor, etc has been paid, but that's life.
 
My home has several styles that sort of blend together:

The craftsman/arts & crafts/Frank Lloyd Wright look with leaded glass, front porches, & stained wood shows itself in the home's exterior. Inside, I have exposed hardwood floors, & stained woodwork, etc throughout.

The Art-deco look takes hold in the bathroom, kitchen and other locations around the home. The bathroom has tile simliar in pattern to what's used in New York subway stations. Glass block is used in place of the window, and soffett lighting in the kitchen with very deco style trim and painted woodwork, plus lots of chrome throughout the house add to this look.

The Danish Modern/mic-century Modern look shows itself in many places, mostly in the furniture and appliances within.

The biggest chore around this house has been undoing what the previous owners did in attempting to renovate the house, and give it an HGTV type look....something that the house hasn't taken too kindly. The house sat abandoned for 10 years or so, before some investors bought it and fixed it up to make it marketable. They slapped up a quick cheap paint job, chopped down all the weeds in the yard, and planted grass.

Here's some of the bad things they did after they got the place back to livable condition. They installed cheap particleboard cabinets in the kitchen and replaced all the nice older painted wood cabinets originally installed in the house. They then went bezerk painting everything in the house white. Luckily, they used latex paint over top of the oil based varnish, so the paint has come off the varnished trim very easily. They also replaced many of the chrome electrical plates, and other components with faux brass. One of the nastiest things they did was take the black & white tile out of the bathroom, and replace it with sheet vinyl. I didn't waste any time tearing out the vinyl and putting til back up! I've been into some of the other homes built around here, and so I've gotten a pretty good sense of what the home was like when it was original. Most of the other houses in this style have not been butchered up as hard as mine, and give me a good guide to get it back the way it once looked.

I think it's sad the way today we try and cover up and replace many of the mid-century modern styling that homes have. The style is a fun part of our recent history. The fifties and sixties were a time of optimism and hope for our country. We had rockets going to the moon, we had transistors, television and all sorts of other technological breakthroughs designed to make our lives easy. The country was prospering, energy was cheap, we were exporting more than importing, and we had just become a superpower with nuclear power (electricity too cheap to meter!) The style of our homes and other architecture reflected the bright future and progress that many had envisioned in our minds. I don't think we will ever come to another point on our history where we were so happy about modern life and our hope for a good future! The effort that many go through to get rid of mid-century modern styling is almost like many choose to forget about not only this time in history, but this time in their lives. I, myself am very fond of the look, as it reminds me of the home I grew up in, and I think I had a pretty good childhood.

Today's architecture and home styles does not really reflect a look forward, but a look back. Maybe today, most people are looking back at the simpiler times of farming, or the colonial days, as much of our architecture today tends to throw back to these appearances.
 
Good example here

Stupid coffee table baskets, ugly couch, terrible color scheme, ugly pictures, God-awful rug. There is not one thing in that room that is comfortable, pleasant, interesting, conversation starting, or original. Everything I have been talking about that I hate is in this picture, except for cat tails in a vase and Laura Ashley prints. They probably have those in the bedroom though.

Found this almost instantly on the HGTV website. This is supposed to be what you should be living in.

 
Hi there, I'm a designer!

"I work for HGTV. Here are some great ideas.

Don't know what to do with old suitcases? Stack them, then put a cushion on them! It makes for extra seating!!! You can do the same with an old freestanding closet too, if you just lay it on its side. Not sure what kind of pillow to use on your bed? How about one with three ugly women on it?"

Do these people have any idea what "Retro" or "Vintage" means? Take a look at the pics on this page and you will know what I am talking about.

HGTV just makes it too easy, don't they.

 
My mom loves those redo shows but most of them make me sick. The solutions are always temporary and cheap looking. Press-on floor tiles and the like.

Having worked in them for years, I just don't understand why people would want to live in something that at least aspires to look like a hotel lobby. That just doesn't say "home" to me ;-)

There's an on-line magazine called "Jet Set Modern" (which also has an excellent store) and one of their editors wrote a great story about McMansions that pretty much says it all, as far as I'm concerned.

 
LOVED Sandy's McMansion story...his friends live exactly like some people we know (who obviously own one of these monstrosities). Sandy posted on here in the Applianceville days; I wonder where he is now??

Those houses do have beautiful kitchens, IMHO, with stainless-steel ranges, refrigerators, and DWs, costing $5000 together at least, and they're usually pristine to boot...because the owners do work upwards of 60 hours/week and can't ever use 'em!! Not only that, but a 6-figure salary is a must considering the outrageous prices I've seen...

All things said, while I love the idea of living in a 3500+ sq. ft. house, I'm not a McMansion fan. All of those "cookie-cutter" subdivisions with houses packed so tightly you can presumably watch your neighbor take a shower and vacuum the floors are too much to handle...yikes!!
 
Man oh Man dalangdon

Does this author have it down or what? I bet there are cat tails and potpourri in the kitchen, dontcha think?

There is a town not far from me called Brea. It is the most northern part of Orange County in California, which is very expensive to live. I live the next county over.

Brea at one point had a ton of open fields (like everywhere in California) and believe it or not, oil rigs, very nicely dotting hillsides, not eyesores at all. Anyways, this big tract of land was finally developed.

The latest tract had homes starting around 1700 square feet (I believe). This was for the small ranch home. The others were much larger in size, well over 3000 square feet. Each lot, as in the article you pointed to, barely extends past the house. Don't wash your car on your driveway, as you will most certaintly get your neighbor's car and house wet. Better forget the swingset for junior, the backyards can barely accomodate a picnic table. On, and you have a boat? Sorry, the "Association" does not allow that.

Anyways, these homes START at $900,000. That's right. Add in landscaping, move in fees, upgrades, etc, you are pushing one million dollars. For a medium/small house, on a tiny lot. Yeah.
 
That's all I can stand, cuz I can't stands no more!!

McMansions with their pseudo-faux-neo-classical interiors done by neurotic-anexoric-over-botoxed-designers. Now I know why the housewives are *desperate*! FEH!
 
McMansions are a very big part of soaring development in Calgary and so popular. I couldn't live like that, no privacy. What always amazes me are those huge master ensuites with a shower stall and large whirpool tub situated right in front of huge windows overlooking the neighbors back deck. Don't dare get up in the middle of the night nekkid to visit the fridge, at least don't turn the lights on or it's a free show for half a block. And those awful awful garages tacked onto the front of the houses with a 20 ft driveway. No one actually ever uses the driveway or garage, they all park on the streets, the only people that do use it are the ones with the huge motorhome or boat who leave it there all year, lovely to look at.
And what do you say about interior columns, grecian, doric, ionic,,,give me the willies. Luckily I live out in the country and minimum lot sizes are 2.5 acres, most are 4, so all the new McMansions around here don't look quite so out of place and the garages are moved off to the side or back.
 
I blame it all on Friends

This whole cutesy, whimsical look that has been everywhere started with Monica's apartment on "Friends" - an improbable place that got foufier and foufier as time went on. Before you know it, it was everywhere - even in hotels, and it got very tired very quickly. Mass produced whimsey is just not very whimsical - and oversized sofas and armchairs, while nice looking in the showrooom, make a house look out of scale and tacky.

As for kitchens, the whole golden or limed oak, white walls, Corian and stainless look just makes me tired to look at it. It's so bland that I want to take a nap. And as someone who likes to cook, I can't understand tile floors and stone counters in a kitchen - the tile is hard on your feet if you are standing for a long time, and both tile and stone are unforgiving on china, glassware and knives. Give me vinyl floors and low maintenance Formica that is colorful and inexpensive to replace.

But to each his own, of course. I'm sure there are many people who would be driven absolutely crazy in my house. I just want people to think for themselves and express their personality in their decorating. I would think that living in a "House Beautiful" photo shoot would be a drag.
 
Mass produced whimsey LOL

That's a great term for it. One only need visit Pier 1 etc.
I think they sell artificial cat tails Kevin, made in Malaysia as well as a plethora of gee gaws and brass/wooden doo dads requiring tea lights and your favorite potpourri mix
 
One of my biggest gripes with the "HGTV" look, or the "Mass-produced Whimsey" look of overstuffed couches and knicknacks is that the entire look makes a home look cluttered and busy. I walk into a home like this and I feel like I'm going to knock something over or trip. Over-stuffed couches are not even comfortable to sit on because they swallow you up in a sea of foam and fabric. Cleaning and maintaining this look is probably pretty annoying too. I couldn't imagine having to clean all that knick-knacky junk sitting around...it gives me clausterphobia just thinking about it!!!

I have sort of a minimalist approach to styling. I like flat surfaces to be clear of clutter. Not only does this make it easier to clean, but also makes things feel more open and "breathable" I tend to go with the "less is more" attitude towards home decorating. It's not how much you put in there, but what you do with what you have!
 
Think Pink

Here's a bit of my handywork. The house was built in 1978, not any distinct style, I think of it as more Brady Bunch ranch style. The prior owners, whose furniture is on the left in the photo, had everything pink and salmon, with turquoise accents. The outside was two tone pink. I can't tell you how many large trash bags of salmon carpet we ripped up. Then it was time for 1900 square feet of tile. Never having laid tile, it was a challenge, but it worked.

That giant pink lamp did go on eBay and to a good home in LA. Much as I love retro, that wasn't a good example. For this place, between the dog, cat and parrot, the tile floors are the best thing we've done. Very easy to clean and maintain.

It was hard finding furniture in scale to the house. The giant, overstuffed look just wouldn't fit in here, nor through the doors!
 
Ironrite--not all retro is good retro!

Definite improvement. I don't know if the bricks on the fireplace were white before, you could not tell because everthing pink reflected on it. You gotta be careful with pink. I would love a pink washer and dryer, for example, in a white laundry room, but not a pink laundry room. Now the fireplace stands out nicely.

I like wood shutters, even though alot of "modely homes" have that too. This is one area that I like. I don't care for "sheers", although there are exceptions to the rule and I have seen nice treatments.

On the basics, I love the step up to the dining area and the vaulted ceiling with beam. This gives an openness to the floorplan. The other thing that strikes me about your living environment is the absence of a bunch of garbage items all over...bad sconces, vases filled with stuff, and clutter. We have been moved in for five months now and I still don't have the clutter thing taken care of.
 
My previous project

On our last house, I got really burned out on remodeling it...one reason I am focused so much on decorating this new (old!) house and not remodeling anything yet!

On the old house, this is what I had to work with:

--Bronze carpeting everywhere except the dining room, which was an ugly Berber.

--The house was green outside, but not a good green.

--Back inside, the dining room and living room had gold foil wallpaper on it. It was so old that the adhesive had drawn through the paper to the front, making the wallpaper sticky to the touch. I had to steam and scrape it off. The largest wall took me 8 hours of labor. You went too fast, you ripped the drywall covering. What a nightmare.

--The kitchen was that bad formica (and I like formica) but with the fake wood look. My dad has this on his workbench, which is what our kitchen looked like. These were not the original countertops, and there was a rather new but plain Dakor stove built in. The built in oven was nice, do not remember the brand but it was original to the house, 1966. The dishwasher was newer but nothing special. I ripped them all out, but was fortunate to find a woman who wanted them all for her house and loved them, so I felt good about that.

--Everything was painted "almond"

--Then entrance hall was vinyl tile, in mustard

It was quite a project. The older couple that bought it from us loved the retro kitchen we did, which I knew alot of people would not like (red formica, glass blocks in the handmade dividing wall, white paneling), so the hard work did add some value in the end to it, in addition to allowing us to enjoy the place.
 

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