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I think Speed Queen Dishwashers should have washer style holes in the stainless steel spray arms all over. If Speed Queen Dishwashers had 2 pumps, how big would they be? I think the wash pump would be the biggest one, but what about the drain pump?
 
I think the motor would be a permanent magnet disk type because of the space constraints. Unsure if it would actually be 1/2HP in that you can only move so much water in a shallow sump. Drain pump can be beefed up a 120 watt version, I see no harm or limitation in that.
 
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Or, the huge pump that recirculates water during wash and rinse cycles could be in the back while the deep sump could be in the front of the machine.
How fast would the pump spin? What would it sound like during washing and rinsing?
What about the filling? What about the detergent and rinse aid dispensers? I think they could do a big tub dishwasher. What about draining? Dishomat would be a great name for a Speed Queen Dishwasher. T would be short for automatic dishwashing. I could picture them supplying a sample of dishwasher detergent and rinse aid.
 
Jerome, I never though of that. Extend the sump to the floor, but have the pump and motor off to the back. You know, that just might make the dishwasher stronger. 3450 RPM I think would be a good balance between wear and impeller size. Filter between the main motor and drain pump. Particles accumulate in the horizontal filter, drain pump then sucks them out. The design would be simple yet effective. The pump would be induction or permanent magnet, no brushes, so it would sound more like an AC motor vs a DC drill.

 

Whirlpool standard tubs had a good quiet fill valve, that would work in a Speed Queen dishwasher.

 

Rinse-Aid would be like a GE standard tub, and detergent would be like a modern Maytag that slides upward. Flip lids can get caught up in pans leaning up near the door preventing the lid from opening all the way.

 

 

Washing would we swish-swish-swish. Strong jets but the stainless steal would have sound dampening on the other side. 
 
 
Jerome, SQ should design their dishwashers with the motors, pumps and food grinder/separator outboard of the tub.  The pumps would connect via hoses to the bottom of the tub on integral 90° elbows formed into the tub.  Potential leak sources are minimized and only enough room is required beneath for the hoses so the tub can be extra tall, maybe four racks.  The pumps can be large and powerful enough to suck food debris right out of the tub!  The pumps could be located anywhere, in a soundproof cabinet next to the dishwasher, or the attic or basement or even outdoors which would make operation in the kitchen super quiet like the consumers want without requiring tiny weak motors.  Water restrictions are soon to be eliminated so that isn't a concern on the long hoses.  They'll surely be big sellers!
 
dadoes...

You really got me thinking about this. I never thought of that, but that's what I envision Speed Queen Dishwashers. No nonsense, yet very practical. Another thing I was thinking is that Speed Queen can have their dishwasher pumps supported in a crate or cradle, or even sitting in a milk stool type setup where the motor will still have enough room to isolate the vibrations from the tub. the pump fan would have a soothing sound while running like a gentle hum. I think the spray arms could either soak, blast, shower, or overcome the dishes in a wall of water at different stages of the cycle while targeting different stains.[this post was last edited: 2/9/2025-13:56]
 
rinse aid dispenser

Or, perhaps the rinse aid dispenser would have a lift to flip open with a pull tab, along with an eyepiece to see whether the rinse aid dispenser is full or needs replenishment. Chet, how many RPM's would the spray arms spin at when washing?
 
"the same thing over and over"

Because stuff like this never changes and if it does, it's for the worst. Too many new dishwasehrs just take 3 hours to just play with the dishes with just a mist of water.
What the heck kind of stupid crap is that? Had Speed Queen Home built dishwashers, we wouldn't be seeing these issues like this. As chetlaham and I have stated, I have been in stores and read reviews where most consumers would say, "I want a dishwasher that would just clean dishes!" I agree with their sentiments. I absolutely hate doing dishes by hand, and I have better things to do.
Sadly, nobody cares about quality anymore. I can ramble and shout and hem and haw until I turn blue in the face. All day long! Besides, many people are catching on. Those of us who know how a dishwasher should work aren't stupid. I want a real pump and real hot water, and sturdy racks that ride smoothly no matter how full it is, and I want the jets to reach every single nook and cranny in a reasonable amount of time. No exceptions. Give me a grinder any day of the week.
That is what the heck I want in a Speed Queen Dishwasher. I don't care about how loud or ugly it is. I just want clean dishes! Is that a lot to ask?
Why do we have to settle for stupid crappy flashy looks that don't do jack? I may sound cranky, but I am so sick and tired of reading reviews where people have had their dishwashers break in 5 years! I had a Frigidaire that lasted a year! They have way too many electronics in them and tiny pumps that can't handle the load. I have never thought in a million years thought that dishwasher pumps would become more and more puny, but here we are today.They're like toys compared to yesteryear.
 
Yeah seriously, we don’t care to hear the endless ramblings daily we all agree but you’re quite embarrassing with how much you obsess over these topics with dishwashers. Your internet use really needs to be restricted. Hasn’t it ever come across your mind that your endless ramblings and bizarre cringeworthy novels are annoying to members here? I can’t understand how you don’t already know this
 
I forgot to mention...

A lot of these manufacturers tell the customer, "You should've bought the extended warranty". Like that has anything to do with their poor lackluster performance whenever the dishwasher in question breaks down. A doshwasher should last more than a year! That is a pathetic excuse. Nobody has time to hand wash dishes as they may have kids. on top of that, the customer is always blamed for using the dishwasher as intended.
 
to dadoes

My dishwasher is of course emerging clean. It's just the behavior of the dishwasher that seemed interesting to me when I moved in, and still am to this day. And yes, I'm used to dishwashers with pumps that start up immediately getting to work.[this post was last edited: 2/10/2025-10:55]
 
Looney Tunes...

How are we looney tunes when we are're just being real? I like my spray arms buff and full of power, and I like my pumps to have a nice pleasant hum to know it's right down to business. That's what a Speed Queen Dishwasher would do if they exist. Maybe in the future when more are continuing to catch on.
 
Jerome, dish-o-mat dreams aside, I think people are in denial. We have members here stating their modern dishwashers are clogging with food and leaving behind dirty dishes. We even have a 50 year appliance repair tech on here who admitted his tall tub was getting stinky and went back to using two Power Clean modules and won't trade them for anything. Yet despite that we've got a handful of members who claim that it is impossible for modern dishwashers to clog or leave food soil behind chastising anyone who says otherwise. 
 

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