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I second the motion that darlings take the hashing out of belief systems to Dirty Laundry.

My post was attempting to show the vast variability still out there among modern machines and how their scorn is somewhat undeserved. There's a LOT of hard working people out there that try to make those things function well, and people who assembled them and might be proud of them.

That's the wonderful thing about machines; they don't care about belief systems.
They run on mechanics and pre-programmed algorithms devised by engineers who conducted science processes. All under the direction of physical law.

@mark WP,
Haha! Thanks! ;)
 
Eugene

"As far as the European thing, I find it pretty hilarious that the Europeans want the American goods and the Americans think the European stuff is the best. It's all really a Matter of preference."

Uh uh!

I think that is more an exception than a rule. In general Americans think American appliances are better and Europeans prefer European appliances.

Personally I like all appliances, I browse on lots of websites all around the world to see what kind of appliances they have. But most of us stick to what we have and what we know. Our memories are mostly of appliances of our own continent too. And memories is what drives our participation in this website.

;-)

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"American vs. European goods"

Its different, it's unique to my homelands products. Braun products were popular in the states in the 80's and 90's. Like a Mercedes Benz once was in America, or a Chevrolet or Cadillac was in Europe.
How about an Opel Diplomat in the states? I never saw one. It's V8 engine was in fact a Chevrolet 327.
I saw a 1977 Chevrolet Caprice driving in Berlin though.
Then alas, since the Opel Kadette and sport Manta, the Opel Omega was sold here in the 90's, as a Cadillac Catera.
The 70's Mercury Capri was also popular here, built in Cologne.
If someone in America has a Thermador, Viking, or Wolf, they have upscale status, but having a Miele, or an Asko product says it better.
 
Oh,

the lady in the back seat isn't in a Chevy either. Look at the head restraint, and you can tell it is neither a vintage 70's USA Ford Granada ESS or Mercury Monarch version by the wide curve above the quarter window in the roof line to the sail panel.
 
My 2 cents....

I have to agree with JohnB300m, I like my modern dishwasher too. Weight and water/energy consumption do not equal quality. I own a 2011 Frigidaire MOL unit that I pimped up with the 3-way wash arm, top spray arm and nylon racks, and can count on one hand the times I was disappointed with the results. Now granted, I don't pack it to the gills as I run it every other day. I generally don't do pots and pans and I'm not a pre-rinser. The thing is, we can have a houseful and it all fits in the dishwasher. Since its not a portable and I don't monitor its every click, I don't really care if it takes two hours to run as long as the load comes out clean. Plus you have to factor in that my husband and family have to work with it as well. Truthfully, I replaced the WP built KitchenAid that was in our house with this unit as this one<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> serves our needs better</span>. Now are there "allowances" that need to be made? Sure. But folks I do regular maintainence on my $25,000 car without giving it a second thought. Why not on a $400 dishwasher?
 
Yes Mike, there are exceptions. At the moment Vitamix blenders are becoming popular here although very expensive. But the general rule is different. Snobbery with expensive appliances not included btw. It makes sense too. It's easier to get an appliance repaired that didn't come from across the big pond. I had a bad experience with a Cuisinart recently. No parts available anymore in this country although the same model is still sold new in the USA.

The lady in the back seat is in a Mercedes W114/W115.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114

Back from the car into the kitchen now, back to dishwasher maintenance.
 
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