I've used the self clean function on my Kenmore about twice a year (spring and fall) for the past 20 years.
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Do you use Self-Clean on your oven?
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A well written article about self cleaning ovens.
https://www.generalappliancesvc.com...n-a-self-clean-oven-cycle-a-safer-alternative
https://www.generalappliancesvc.com...n-a-self-clean-oven-cycle-a-safer-alternative
On an level, IMO, with the pundits that push cold-water laundry. A false statement regards to Teflon interior.
Don’t use self cleaning oven?
What a crock of BS, talk about starting out with an agenda.
Yes, there are no Teflon liners in any self-cleaning oven. Good eyes Glenn.
They were absolutely searching for anything they could write while ignoring real hazards. In fact, they didn’t even mention that gas oven stew produce some carbon monoxide during the initial heating process. the tiny amount of food that you burn off in the electric self cleaning oven does not produce measurable carbon monoxide, maybe if you’re filling it with your trash and using it isn’t incinerator it would lol
About the only thing that might be accurate is I would agree that maybe 20% of broken oven calls do have something to do with the self cleaning cycle but when you consider how seldom that an oven breaks down at all, that’s not a very high lifetime chance of ever having a problem with a self cleaning oven that created a service call.
It’s clear that the bias and the logic used by the writers of this probably has something to do with the fact they went to Florida schools.
Edit I talked to two other experienced repair people this morning since I made the post we’ve all concluded that the repairs caused by problems with the self cleaning oven is probably well less than 5% of total range service calls and may be only one or 2% few of us could remember any time that cleaning the oven actually caused a problem With modern oven built in the last 20 years.
John [this post was last edited: 3/17/2024-08:59]
What a crock of BS, talk about starting out with an agenda.
Yes, there are no Teflon liners in any self-cleaning oven. Good eyes Glenn.
They were absolutely searching for anything they could write while ignoring real hazards. In fact, they didn’t even mention that gas oven stew produce some carbon monoxide during the initial heating process. the tiny amount of food that you burn off in the electric self cleaning oven does not produce measurable carbon monoxide, maybe if you’re filling it with your trash and using it isn’t incinerator it would lol
About the only thing that might be accurate is I would agree that maybe 20% of broken oven calls do have something to do with the self cleaning cycle but when you consider how seldom that an oven breaks down at all, that’s not a very high lifetime chance of ever having a problem with a self cleaning oven that created a service call.
It’s clear that the bias and the logic used by the writers of this probably has something to do with the fact they went to Florida schools.
Edit I talked to two other experienced repair people this morning since I made the post we’ve all concluded that the repairs caused by problems with the self cleaning oven is probably well less than 5% of total range service calls and may be only one or 2% few of us could remember any time that cleaning the oven actually caused a problem With modern oven built in the last 20 years.
John [this post was last edited: 3/17/2024-08:59]
My mum has a Westinghouse Branded oven
(Westinghouse Electrolux Australia) it does have a self-cleaning function but I’ll admit we haven’t used it since we put the oven in, it’s not True self cleaning because you put a bit of water where the bottom element sits and set it to the Kleen function and then it’ll just help steam up all that stuff and then you have to wipe it all off and scrub it too, I really wish that me and mum decided to Get a Pyrolytic version Instead of the one we currently have with an air fryer option when we’ve already got an air fryer and a deep fryer, oh well when that kicks the bucket hopefully the Price of pyrolytic self cleaning ovens Has come down enough, to be a lot more affordable,
Also with this particular oven you still have to remove all the racks and all the fittings and all the oven stuff, I’ll stick that in the dishwasher and run it on a hot cycle while I steam and then clean the oven, but considering yeah I have to do both For the pyrolytic and non-pyrolytic ovens, I guess you could call that oven kind of a steppingstone
(Westinghouse Electrolux Australia) it does have a self-cleaning function but I’ll admit we haven’t used it since we put the oven in, it’s not True self cleaning because you put a bit of water where the bottom element sits and set it to the Kleen function and then it’ll just help steam up all that stuff and then you have to wipe it all off and scrub it too, I really wish that me and mum decided to Get a Pyrolytic version Instead of the one we currently have with an air fryer option when we’ve already got an air fryer and a deep fryer, oh well when that kicks the bucket hopefully the Price of pyrolytic self cleaning ovens Has come down enough, to be a lot more affordable,
Also with this particular oven you still have to remove all the racks and all the fittings and all the oven stuff, I’ll stick that in the dishwasher and run it on a hot cycle while I steam and then clean the oven, but considering yeah I have to do both For the pyrolytic and non-pyrolytic ovens, I guess you could call that oven kind of a steppingstone
Pyrolytic self cleaning ovens
The better designed ones will clean the racks and all the other interior oven parts at the same time. This is always been the way with the US pyrolytic ovens, ironically, there’s some high-end ones that they do want you to remove all the racks and things the ones that have the silly roller shelves generally cannot be self cleaned.
In addition to the racks, I often put pieces of Corningware or porcelain enameled, boiler pans, etc. to clean those at the same time.
GE has gone to porcelain enamel racks which clean beautifully without any discoloration, the chrome racks tended to discolor the first time they are cleaned, but the soft gray color is just fine with me just so I don’t have to clean them, lol
John
The better designed ones will clean the racks and all the other interior oven parts at the same time. This is always been the way with the US pyrolytic ovens, ironically, there’s some high-end ones that they do want you to remove all the racks and things the ones that have the silly roller shelves generally cannot be self cleaned.
In addition to the racks, I often put pieces of Corningware or porcelain enameled, boiler pans, etc. to clean those at the same time.
GE has gone to porcelain enamel racks which clean beautifully without any discoloration, the chrome racks tended to discolor the first time they are cleaned, but the soft gray color is just fine with me just so I don’t have to clean them, lol
John
So I'm just now running the max self clean setting on my Miele.
That dirt is from about 6 months of usage.
I chose the max 3:31h cycle because there were some stains at the very front edge of the cavity that didn't get shifted last time.
So I'll see if that works.
That dirt is from about 6 months of usage.
I chose the max 3:31h cycle because there were some stains at the very front edge of the cavity that didn't get shifted last time.
So I'll see if that works.
After 2h of heating
So, I started the oven on its cycle after finishing cooking a frozen pizza, so the oven was above 200C or somewhere around 400F.
Miele "paces" the heating.
It used to be that Mieles ovens had a sensor guided self clean cycle where it would monitor the temp of the catalytic system. If that spiked above a certain point it would pause heating as that would mean excessive smoke.
They no longer do that and just have programmed a heating curve.
Unfortunately, it doesn't cut down cycle time for hot starts but just starts heating later and slower until it reaches the point in the cycle the it wants to be at that temp.
However, the cycles are pretty simple.
It wants to be at temp about 60 to 90 minutes into the self clean.
The base cycle has 2h of heating, medium 2:30 and top 3h plus 30min for cooldown and 1min for locking and unlocking.
For heating, the upper outer element is on continuously.
The convection element and the upper inner element cycle - when one is on the other is off.
If temp set is reached all elements cycle off.
The convection fan runs continuously.
I checked some temps with my infrared thermometer 2h in.
The door is below 100F at the very bottom while the top of the door is around 160F.
The air coming out of the vent is about 220F.
The facia is literally cool to the touch.
So, I started the oven on its cycle after finishing cooking a frozen pizza, so the oven was above 200C or somewhere around 400F.
Miele "paces" the heating.
It used to be that Mieles ovens had a sensor guided self clean cycle where it would monitor the temp of the catalytic system. If that spiked above a certain point it would pause heating as that would mean excessive smoke.
They no longer do that and just have programmed a heating curve.
Unfortunately, it doesn't cut down cycle time for hot starts but just starts heating later and slower until it reaches the point in the cycle the it wants to be at that temp.
However, the cycles are pretty simple.
It wants to be at temp about 60 to 90 minutes into the self clean.
The base cycle has 2h of heating, medium 2:30 and top 3h plus 30min for cooldown and 1min for locking and unlocking.
For heating, the upper outer element is on continuously.
The convection element and the upper inner element cycle - when one is on the other is off.
If temp set is reached all elements cycle off.
The convection fan runs continuously.
I checked some temps with my infrared thermometer 2h in.
The door is below 100F at the very bottom while the top of the door is around 160F.
The air coming out of the vent is about 220F.
The facia is literally cool to the touch.
Done
The control never got above 104F.
Heating actually stopped at 25min left so correction on that.
Everything except the spots at the very edge is gone completely, and even those spots shrank.
Just goota leave it to cool down over night, and then wipe out and oil the holders.
The control never got above 104F.
Heating actually stopped at 25min left so correction on that.
Everything except the spots at the very edge is gone completely, and even those spots shrank.
Just goota leave it to cool down over night, and then wipe out and oil the holders.
