Early Europeanen automatic front loading machines

[nokia2010]

Very intresting. I've I will see such machine sent for destroing, it's a must to save it.
On that list of patents I've seen some images. But why when I click a patent I don't see an image?
In Romania the door of the front loading washing machines is gennerally called "porthole" ("hublou" in Romanian; plural "hublouri"). Well, if this isn't enough, in Romania most people are keeping theyr washing machines in bathrooms. Some prewar buldings are having at bahtrooms round windows, inspired by portholes! (of the TransAtlantic ships).

 

[nokia2010]

The 1st one is an dryer. Probably the pair of 700 washing machine.



An "Matura" (probably around 1960).

 

[ozzie908]

Nylon bed linen

If like myself you suffered with Excema those sheets were not nice at all as they brushed side caught on dry skin and if felt like electric shocks every time you moved ....

So pleased when Polyester/cotton took over from nylon !!

Austin

 

[nokia2010]

From here: https://www.test.de/Historischer-Te...en-Nur-6-von-27-sind-Spitzenklasse-4716673-0/
you can download a 1966 article with reviews about old automatic washing machines.
I will try to understeand what they are saying there - I don't speak German, English beeing the only forgein language that I can allmost interly underesteand.
Some brands from there, never heared about them. Maybe some of you know more about them.

 

[foraloysius]

Yes, those historical test reports are really great to read. Perhaps Google Translate can help you with the German text.

 

[nokia2010]

I will try to find a program that converts the image into text, so I can understeand what they are saying there. I can understeand a little bit. From the old Europeanen ones, the German ones are my favourite. And problably for some of them you can still find spare parts. Some are machines that last, but even at something that lats, parts can get broken.
I did read your posted reviews about automatic wahshers (the scanned one). They are intresting, but still do I look more about the German ones.
Besides the fact that I want to use a old washing machine (not because is old, but because it uses more water... old can mean even a 2000, not a 1960 one), so I'm intrested in what I can get, I wonder why do I like old washing machines so much. O.k., I can add there is one of the old thing that can be used even after years, but you can still use an old radios (I do like very much old radios, older then the '80's) or old no frost refrigerators (not mad about them), but from old electric household apliances, the old automatic washing machines are the most intresting. Could it be because they have more tehcnics into it?
I sayed that the old Germans are my favourites, but I wonder how did the water clutch worked on this Italian machine.

 

[nokia2010]

Sorry,I do have another curiosity too. In fact 3:
Some early "Constructa" machines had a kind of a small basin with a opening above, that was put on the same front - back line with the detergent funnel, behind the detergent funnel. What what it's use?
The "Constructa" had a flotor. This was for adjusting water level at washing and rising or for overflow protection?
Did the machines that where bolted to the floor more relaible in time, since they dind't had shock absorbers?

 

[foraloysius]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what part you mean.

Neighbours of us had a bolt down Constructa. A big family with 9 children. The Constructa repair man came over several times in a few years, so I guess the reliability was questionable.

 

[nokia2010]

What part don't you understeand? So I can be more precise about it.
The bolt down "Bauknecht" WA35 looked impressive.
9 childern. That machine had a lot of usage, probably 2-3 days per week usage.
Talking about "Bauknecht" WA35, it's a impressive look machine on the inside. But unfourtenley, some very short washing programs for low temperatures. At 30 ° C it should lasted at least 20 minutes the washing itself (without the rising) or even 30 minutes.

 

[foraloysius]

I don't know exactly what part you mean. Is it visible in this video?



I will have to ask a friend, I'm not a very technical skilled person.

 

[nokia2010]

No, that machines dosen't have it any longer. What I'm talking about can be seen here starting at 4:40. The camera points at it around 4:49. I think he next model had that thing too.
I will ad a commerical too.





But why this "Bauknecht" had 2 portholes?

 

[ozzie908]

2 x portholes

Do you mean door seals ?

The bolt down machines just have 2 rubber seals that press together when the door is closed as the tub doesn't move you do not need a moving seal.

Non bolt down that have springs and tensioners need a door boot to seal the moving tub to the stationary one this boot moves with the tub.

Hope this helps ?

Also the older machines had a soap hopper on the top of the cabinet to allow you to add powder etc these then moved on to become soap drawers in newer machines. Although some newer machines which are commercial laundry items they still had soap hoppers.

 

[foraloysius]

That rubber thing at the back sticking out high, looks like a vent to me.

 

[nokia2010]

Sorry, I made a mistake. "Bauknecht" 505 haves 2 doors.



As for the "Constructa", I made a circle around that pice that puzzles me.

 

[nokia2010]

But what machines was this? https://brand-history.com/henkel-ce...teht-die-moderne-waschmaschine-aber-wascht-an
For what did the "Constructa" had a flotor?
When in Sweeden where made the 1st front loading automatics?

 

[fmatic]

Hey everyone! Just found this thread, very interesting info.

Here I have this really rare General Electric front loader. Pretty sure it was made in Europe, but i couldn't find any information about this one.

Anything you might know will help!

 

[villematias1]

Here is a small top-loading upo washing machine made in Finland in 1975

Finnish washing machine

 

[foraloysius]

That's a very nice compact washing machine. And in colour too! Upo was a Finnish brand IIRC, unfortunately later bought up by Antonio Merloni I think.

Unfortunately your link isn't working. Is it on a Finnish auction site?

 

[villematias1]

Upo

Here are the pictures from the inside and from below where you can see the mechanics and the picture from below the machine has a big concrete casting and it is very heavy I own this machine this machine was sold under the name upo pesukarhu

Upo washing machine

 

[villematias1]

Here is my upo washing machine

https://studio.youtube.com/video/3qI6Ic8D4Pg/edit
Upo washing machine

 

[foraloysius]

The link didn't work. I found your videos I think.





Did you want to post these?

 

[gorenje]

@ foraloysius

" Letting a machine run like that without bolting it to the floor should be a deadly sin!"

Hi Louis, I have to correct you in that. Those old Indesit machines were not supposed to be bolted at all. They where made with a tub fixed to the outer casing and they had no suspension. They were made instand on casters on the bottom.
They were meant to "float" on the flor during the spin cycle like for example the old legendary small Rex toploader P5 (or Naonis) or the Eudora washers.

 

[statomatic]

Very nice machine, the timer is made in France by Sibel.

 

[villematias1]

Washing machine

Does anyone know about those Wyss Mirella washing machines, papa had such a Wyss Mirella wascator schulthess or Osby Swedish washing machine in the barn, I'm interested in finding out about that Wyss Mirella, there hasn't been any information, I'd be interested to see the cover plate removed from the Wyss Mirella washing machine, as I remember, it has relays and that program selector, unfortunately the barn doesn't have these anymore the memories are that Wyss Mirella universal 61 is familiar in structure, I remember it and that schulthess

Washing machine

 

[statomatic]

Here's some cool videos with a Wyss Mirella and a Schulthess
These machines are built like tanks.

 

[villematias1]

I can't understand why someone destroys these wonderful washing machines, this one is also wonderful

Vintage washing machine

 

[tolivac]

Link doesn't work.

 

[villematias1]

Washing machine

Does anyone recognize these

 

[villematias1]

Washing machine

Here is my grandmother's washing machine aeg turnamat 1966

 

[technowasher]

Answers you need

Reply 40: The hole in the front is for adding detergent directly into the drum. So you must not open the door after the prewash is done, and leave it closed for safety. Since when this machine was inventet in 1951 there was no low sudding detergent availalbe. So when you do laundry you had to ad detergent carefulley, so the foam dosent flow over.
The hole in the back is for "Spülmittel" here an old package on ebay: https://www.ebay.de/itm/114356751390
This is a combination of, i would say, bleach and watersoftener, make stains from red wins etc, and yellowing go away and make rinse water soft like rain water.

skip to 4:25 to see how the washer is used
When boiling clothes in a tub, you may take Henko for soaking over night, Persil for boiling and washing, and Sil for the first hot rinse.

When the machine came on market the housewife would have done the laundry like she was used to. The Spülmittel was added to the tub after the prewash is done.
Here how the filling works:
The back hole is fittet to a tub. Water from watervalfe flows into this tub and fills it up until it is full and flows over in the next tub where the drum is. The flotor is conectet with the tub and when the waterlevel raises in the tub, it flots up switch of the cuerrent to the watervalfe and switch on the timer, heater, Motor etc. The tub with the Spülmittel has a heater, too. During the washing cycle the water will timed heatet up until it is hot. If you set the timer for shorter wash, lower tempearture for the clothes and the tub with the Spülmittel will be the result. (See the different starts in the cycle in the video.)
Because of the detergent you had to rinse the clothes in the first rise with hot water, in the second with warm water an final in cold water.
Since the maufactures of detergent jump on the new technology, the next generation of constructa does all rinses cold, saving lots of energy.
The double doors of the Bauknecht an AEG etc. was the result of invention of the not boltet down machines from construca. Makes it possible to install the washer easily in a flat or appartment. Constructa has inventet the door seal and put a patent on it. If the other manufacturers would build their machines with that seal, they must pay for it until the patent run out, and now the most washers ar build like today kown.
Thanks for sharing my Bauknecht WA35 washer.
Happy new year, Technowasher