Early-Mid 60s GE Bottom Freezer Fridge

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Travis, there's no need to measure.

 

There's a big '62 Combo still listed on local CL.  I'm sure it's dimensions will do:

 

33 3/4" Wide

25 14"  Deep (probably w/o handle)

67 1/4" Tall

 

Louie, this is what you're looking for.  Too bad it's too big for my space.

 

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With that one being from 1962 you can see there are no exposed coils in the upper fresh food compartment. Probably just one evaporator. Cold air is blown into upper compartment same as freezer. Are there two fans on these? Probably has an electric heater defrost rather than the hot gas system?
 
The '62 model that doesn't have the exposed coils has the hot gas "Frost Guard" system.  The missing coils in the refrigeration section is always the dead giveaway on these bottom freezer units.  Exposed coils is either a "Combination" with no automatic defrost or on the few models that do have the hot gas system the ice box would claim "Frost Guard". 

 

I've seen GE put the "Combination" name on the manual defrost fridges up through the mid-sixties.  The subject fridge of this thread is a Combination, manual defrost unit.  I believe the first Frost Guard units came out in '62.

 

Ben
 
Ben

Thanks for the info. I wonder when the hot gas system was replaced with an electric heater? Sometime during the 60s I would guess.

The one I just got is from 59 or 60 (haven't taken a closer look at the serial # just yet to know for sure) and its a Frost Guard. If you look in the second pic in reply #10 you'll see it stated on the right of the freezer door handle.
 
Dan -- Head North for the Bigger Fridge

Ben, the freezer drawer indicates that Ken's fridge is a Frost Guard model.  Are you saying that this term only applies to the refrigerated section?  I'm both confused and a little skeptical.  Not that defrosting my own Combination is a big deal -- I suppose there's less to go wrong with one of these if the freezer has to be defrosted manually, but IMO the GE's Frost Guard terminology would be misleading regarding the subject fridge if it didn't apply to the freezer.   I also thought that the Frost Guard models made their debut in 1959.

 

I've seen the examples of single door GEs with the "Combination" moniker (I think Pat Coffey has one), and understand how they got away with that.  A single door Combo has a true zero degree freezer with a beefed up access door that seals tight, unlike its outwardly identical non-combo counterpart that has just an old school evaporator behind a non-sealing, non-insulated plastic door.  But by 1960, people were familiar with the Combo's passive defrost system for the fresh food section, and it seems to me that a Frost Guard indicator would suggest automatic defrosting of both sections.  Can you extrapolate?

 

Dan, the larger fridge I posted above is located in Petaluma/southern Sonoma County.  Here's the link to the ad:

 
Here is John's description of the hot gas defrost

from when Louie got his 1964 bottom freezer GE in 4/2014. Heres the link to the orig thread if anyone wants to take a look. Unfortunately Louie's pics are no longer shown.

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?52792


Post# 752472 on 2014-04-24 22:54:57 by combo52
1964 GE Bottom Freezer Frost Guard Refrigerator
Hi Louie, love the new refrigerator hopefully it will work out well with the Coloric range.

Questions and answers

This GE Ref has hot gas defrost, the later 30 1/2 " models without the coils in the top of the refrigerator section had resistance electric defrost. All GE 34" wide bottom freezer refs had HGD with a single evaporator in the back of the freezer, these had two evaporator fans and two thermostats [ one in each section to control temperatures ]

This ref has a timer to initiate a defrost cycle after 12 hours of compressor running time has accumulated. It does not cool a little colder before going into a defrost cycle.

This ref has two evaporators, the Freon travels through the freezers E first then through the E in the top of the fresh food section. On this type refrigerator the frost melts off the FF E every time the compressor shuts off and to keep frost from accumulating on the ends of the FF E there is a little electric heater on both sides of the FF E, these little heaters are ON whenever the compressor is off, this is why when you turn off the cold control the FF E actually gets warm.

The advantage of this type of refrigeration system is no taste or odor transfer from ref to freezer sections. The main disadvantage is there is no separate temperature control for each section.

Even though GE used there own compressor on these HGD refrigerators you can install a normal compressor if it fails. I have a 1960 GE Frost Guard up-right freezer that had a bad compressor when I found it almost 30 years ago, my brother Jeff installed a regular compressor in it and it works perfectly to this day.

These were good performing refs if everything was working correctly, but dual evaporator refs were prone to more temperature issue problems. A ref like this will easily use 3-4 times as much power as a new ref of equal capacity, and other than not transferring ref odors into the ice in the freezer does not keep food any longer than a new refrigerator, Louie I would keep your little chest freezer for foods that you want to keep in the freezer long term.

[this post was last edited: 5/31/2017-16:30]
 

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