EC30 Detergent Swatches (Tide Tiles) vs. Tide Ultimate Stain Release

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I decided to create a thread about the tests I’m doing with EC30 detergent swatches vs. top-rated liquid Tide Ultimate Stain Release. The swatches are made by P&G and will be marketed as Tide Evo Tiles sometime later this year. The Tide Tiles are being test marketed in Colorado beginning in April. I’m going with the assumption that they’ll perform similarly to the EC30 brand.

Please check out DADoES/Glenn’s thread #95441 “Tide Tiles”. I had no idea this variation on detergent sheets existed before reading the info he and other contributors provided. Worth clicking the link just to see the great off-the-beaten-path detergent commercials Launderess embedded for our viewing pleasure!

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?95441_62~1

Test 1: Decided to take a cue from the testing organization we love to hate and wash a purposefully stained dish towel with the following parameters:

> Medium-sized load of whites—about 2/3 of full capacity—in a Speed Queen 7009 front-loader
> Normal cycle; warm water; max soil setting (a 50 minute wash tumble)
> One EC30 detergent swatch/tile.

Before & after results shown in photos 1 & 2.

Test 2: Robert suggested replicating the test using a liquid Tide product. I have a jug of top-rated Tide Ultimate Stain Release, so it’s off to the races! Here are the parameters for test #2:

> Medium-sized load of whites—again about 2/3 of full capacity—in the Speed Queen.
> Normal cycle; warm water; max soil setting (50 minute wash tumble)
> Liquid Tide Ultimate Stain Release up to line 3 in the cap.

Before & after results shown in photos 3 & 4.

Both towels were stained with the same brand of products, although I added Sugar-Free Hershey’s Syrup to the second test.

As you see, the results were remarkably similar, which surprised me. I thought the liquid Tide would do a better job on the Rao’s Marinara—a sauce with a relatively high fat content—and the Frank’s Hot Sauce. That turned out not to be the case.

Since I’m in testing mode, I may try the same two detergents in “regular” warm water using the Whites cycle at max soil level (30 minute wash tumble) and in 140-degree hot water using the Sanitize With Oxi cycle (50-minute wash tumble at light soil setting). I’m curious to see if the hot water cripples the cocktail of enzymes in the detergents.

After that…I may want to try a test in warm water on the Normal cycle using powdered UK Persil Bio—which I already have—and powdered UK Ariel Bio, which is on its way from the BritSuperstore (which I found out does still exist.) It might also be interesting to test powdered UK Persil Non-Bio in 140-degree water with a 50 minute wash tumble to see how it compares with its enzyme-based counterpart.[this post was last edited: 3/20/2024-10:53]

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Wow

That is very surprising. I expected the same. It appears lighter in the pic, but isn’t as significant as I would imagine with the Mannanase and Pectate Lyase. I will be very interested to see the Whites-Warm and Sanitize cycles.
 
My most challenging laundry is washing terrycloth pastel or white background napkins. They get washed about evry 40 days or so when I've gone through the whole lot. My most common stains are pasta suace IU make myself, blueberry juice from having thawed frozen blueberries and yogurt, various dressings for salads, and whatever I end up consuming. The oither component of the load are my comparable cloths used in kitchen spills from cooking and cleanup. I just use STPP, Tide W/Bleach and Biz powders and use a cold prewash and extra hot wash that heat water to between 145 and 160 degrees by the end of the wash period. Everything gone, I don't even worry about any stain not being left behind.
 
Biz of late hasn't a patch on previous incarnations.

For a while after Redmond got their mitts on Biz they were able to still source product from P&G, that ended long ago and they've had to either make it themselves or find another supplier.

That being said Amazon, Walmart and other places still stock the stuff.

 
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Local Target spring of 2022 (now N/A) and Amazon shipped to my house last December.

My local HEB has had Biz liquid for a long time, but I only bought one bottle there.

My local Walmart says there are 7 boxes on aisle A31. But not available for shipping, only pickup or delivery.
 
FWIW

I have one and only one method of getting rid of stains. Pour Persil Stain Fighter on the stain, do not rub it, set it aside for at least 30 minutes and preferably up to 1 to 1-1/2 hours if oily or greasy, and throw it in the SQ FL with the rest of the load. Has never failed me. I don’t buy stain products any more. Persil works better!
 
Oh

Interestingly the results here are consistent with my experience that tomato and mustard are the most difficult. Years ago I permanently set some tomato stains by not starting with ice cold water. Used to struggle with BBQ sauce because the tomato would be set by warm yet would not come out with cold due to the grease or oil. The Persil Stain Release pre-treatment method eliminates the water temperature issues. I pre-treat tomato based stains, let them sit awhile, and throw them in a warm wash, with perfect success every time. I never fool with trying to flush stains out with water before the machine wash anymore. No need. Persil even removes red wine that way.
 
In theory and practice yes, if one is using a good liquid laundry detergent then a separate pre-treat product often isn't required.

Wisk and its famous "Ring Around The Collar" advert told this to American housewives.

Across the pond it was Ariel and other liquid products.



Where people often go wrong is not subtracting amount of liquid detergent used to pretreat from total amount dosed in wash. Result can and often is excess detergent use that causes froth and rinsing issues.

Even those who use pre-treat products fail to heed this advice at their own peril.

One day at local laundromat watched this fussy woman pre-treat nearly every bit of wash before she bunged things into machine. She then proceeded to add not just one but two Tide pods to wash.... Result was front so intense it filled port hole window with thick rich foam. That froth remained pretty much at same level through wash and subsequent rinses. Being a commercial SQ washer the thing spun regardless but after final extraction one could still see bubbles on window and on wash.

Totally oblivious woman took that soap laden wash and chucked it right into dryer.
 
Yes, definitely

Must subtract the pre-treat amount of detergent from the main wash dose.

Especially if it’s American Persil in a front loader. Or you’d be very sorry.

I assumed that went without saying.

But shouldn’t have.

I stain so few clothes that it’s not really an issue for me.
 
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