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westie2

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Reading the water/sewer post got me to thinking what do you pay for your electicity. Our power here is from hydro electric with coal fired backup just in case. All city services are city owned water/sewer/trash pickup/electricity. Here is the link to what our charges are. We average for our city bill for all services about $180.00 a month for a 2,600 heated and cooled home. Our gas is averaged at $35.00 month

http://siloamsprings.com/departments/electric/elctric_rates.php
 
Cost adjustment is for when they have to start up the coal plant and it is for payng for the coal and the clean air,
 
 

I'm on service from the local electric cooperative (used to be referred to as "REA" - Rural Electric Administration).  The effective rate varies on each billing.  There's also a "cost recovery factor" involved, which compensates for varying cost of the fuel for the generating plants from which they buy power.  I don't know if it's true of all cooperatives, but this one operates as a non-profit, other than "margins" for operating & maintenance costs (they own/operate the local distribution lines) and capital improvements.

 

The stated rates are:

Generation:  $0.04688/KWH

Transmission/Distribution via the state "grid":  $0.01633/KWH

Local/Distribution:  $19.28 customer charge + 0.03775 first 475 KWH + 0.01871 addt'l KWH over 475

 

The effective rate on my last bill was $0.13104/KWH

 

There's a CRF on both the Generation & Transmission/Distribution sections.  Generation CRF on the last bill was 0.02750.  T/D CRF has been zero for some while.  CRFs occasionally were negative (credits) in the past, but not for the past few years.

 

When TX went to deregulated electric, the local cooperative opted not to participate in competition, so anyone on their "grid" can't switch to another provider ... unless in a dual-certified area covered by other lines.
 
Here in Northern California we're on a residential tiered rate structure that is designed to punish anyone who lives in a dwelling bigger than a one room apartment.

Typically, any electricity use over about 330 KWh/month is subject to rapidly increased rates.

Up to 100% of the "baseline" of 330 KWh, $.13/KWh. 133% over the "baseline" of 330 KWh is charged about $.24/KWh. 200% of the baseline is charged about $.30/KWh.

Meanwhile, various corporate customers are charged LESS per KWh the more electricity they use.

Outrageous? You bet!
 
This was a lot simpler when they charged rate x kWh. Now, just to keep you from figuring out what the rate actually is, are all these various fees so it ends up costing even if you use zero kWh which makes the rate equal to infinity. But if I just take what I paid (including fees, taxes, whatever) and divide by what I used I get 11.8c kWh. Could be worse. This is DFW metro, "deregulated". It's possible to bid the rate down some but the terms become uncertain, like disconnect penalties short of the contract or rates tied to nat gas exchange prices.
 
My current rate with EDISON is 20 €cents/kWh, for an average usage of 430 kWh every TWO months, I have a 15% discount on the current "standard tariff" electricity price that makes up for 55% of the bill.
Previously with ENEL, the national electric company, charged around 22 cents.

That is 0,29 USD/kWh or 18 GBP/kWh.

If I were to consume 600 kWh bi-monthly (next tier), the rates would be higher.
If I had a 6 kW meter I'd pay a double fixed price, there is a fixed tariff of around 4,5 euro/month for each available kW.
 
EIGHT CENTS? That's got to be subsidized. It's below cost unless you're heavily hydro and the facility is already amortized. Might be the lowest rate in the world.

Remember when they said nuclear power would be too cheap to bother metering? Hawhawhaw, like that ever happened.
 
Rates in this area (north-central Iowa) are $.078/kw summer and around $.05 in the winter on an all-electric plan from the local utilities. They have their own coal boilers but the majority of power these days is bought from other utilities; coal goes online when it makes sense. Of course there's the ever-shifting energy adjustment factor to figure but I can't complain. Cory
 
Funny thing is, I just got the power bill! We pay by-monthly, and Nova Scotia Power forecasts your usage, and then adjusts your bill accordingly. If you are under what you use in a year, they give you money back, and if you go over, youll just pay extra the next year. But I looked at how much per kWh, 12 cents per kWh. All coal fired power too.
 
Counting all the fees and taxes and dividing the monthly bill by the KWH, it works out to about 14 cents/KWH from San Diego Gas & Electric. Some nuclear, some hydro, some gas-fired turbine generators. No coal that I know of. SDG&E has one of the highest rates in the country because they have to import electricity and don't produce all they need locally.

Similar to sudsmaster, there is a baseline allowance of about 330 kwh in coastal areas (allowance is higher in hotter inland areas) and if you exceed it, the rates go way up, though down here it's the third tier that really bites you.
 
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