mrb627
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Interesting.
Malcolm
http://laundry.reviewed.com/content...ess-dryer-eied200qsw-first-impressions-review
Malcolm
http://laundry.reviewed.com/content...ess-dryer-eied200qsw-first-impressions-review
Electrolux Compact Laundry
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mrb627
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These have been mentioned in THAT forum. Condenser dryer. Frigidaire heritage and they probably don't have a clue.
mrb627
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Dryer
Reversing condenser dryer for 900?
Malcolm
Reversing condenser dryer for 900?
Malcolm
mrb627
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They are sold in some countrys arround Europe.
The dryer does not recycle energy. It dumps it into the room. And the condensat tank is about 5l, so nearly 2 gallons. And you pretty much have to empty it every or every other load. And in fact, they do reverse!
The dryer does not recycle energy. It dumps it into the room. And the condensat tank is about 5l, so nearly 2 gallons. And you pretty much have to empty it every or every other load. And in fact, they do reverse!
mrb627
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VSUG like appearance
In my opinion.
Like delay start on both washer and dryer too.
Wonder how the extra rinse is implemented. Can you specify the number of rinses, perhaps?
Malcolm
In my opinion.
Like delay start on both washer and dryer too.
Wonder how the extra rinse is implemented. Can you specify the number of rinses, perhaps?
Malcolm
I just saw these on ajmadison, thought they looked like Miele knock-offs 
The dryers, by the way, have brushless motors like many Euro dryers these days. When using the Wool cycle, the drum spins for the most part of the cycle, preventing woolen items from excessive tumbling. The blower has its own motor, of course. Not sure if that feature will be included in the US version, though.
Electrolux Group
These look to be the De-Luxe version of the AEG Protex range, the mid point of Electrolux Groups offerings.
Electrolux Laundry especially automatic washers and dryers have been around decades and are accredited both in Commercial and Domestic Home Laundry.
It does make me smile that all Europe and other continents have a "Standard" range of appliances yest in USA are marketed "Compact" is it not that the rest of the world is normal and yours are "LARGE"? dunno!!
These look to be the De-Luxe version of the AEG Protex range, the mid point of Electrolux Groups offerings.
Electrolux Laundry especially automatic washers and dryers have been around decades and are accredited both in Commercial and Domestic Home Laundry.
It does make me smile that all Europe and other continents have a "Standard" range of appliances yest in USA are marketed "Compact" is it not that the rest of the world is normal and yours are "LARGE"? dunno!!
Guess you're right. It must be quite windy in there during those spinning cycles then...
But I guess that's exactly what not-tumble-drying needs 
I guess the French Electrolux TOL pair comes close to this pair.
arbilab
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E-lux's previous 'extra rinse' implementation worked like this:
The 'e-r' switch turned on the pump halfway through the 3rd rinse. Then the waterlevel switch turned on spin. When the timer turned both those off it went into refill for the second half of rinse 3. Rinse 4 was always active though the timer dial labelled it 'extra rinse'. It was also 'warm' if warm rinse was selected but only the final rinse was warm.
With the e-r switch off, rinse 3 simply tumbled twice as long, skipping pump/spin/refill. However, this applied to the clockwork timer. No idea how it's implemented in digital.
The 'e-r' switch turned on the pump halfway through the 3rd rinse. Then the waterlevel switch turned on spin. When the timer turned both those off it went into refill for the second half of rinse 3. Rinse 4 was always active though the timer dial labelled it 'extra rinse'. It was also 'warm' if warm rinse was selected but only the final rinse was warm.
With the e-r switch off, rinse 3 simply tumbled twice as long, skipping pump/spin/refill. However, this applied to the clockwork timer. No idea how it's implemented in digital.
Extra Rinse?
It adds another rinse/spin to the cycle.
It adds another rinse/spin to the cycle.
mrb627
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Just the one?
So it doesn't toggle from 3-4-5 rinses? Damn!
Malcolm
So it doesn't toggle from 3-4-5 rinses? Damn!
Malcolm
How many extra rinses can be added depends on the software. The manual for the Australian version of this machine speaks of "rinsing phases" that can be added. I looked at my AEG/Electrolux IFA videos on YouTube and saw that certain (higher end) AEG models allow up to five extra rinses.
Rinses
Greetings all
I have the AEG clones of these e'lux machines and yes one can add up to 5 extra rinses - the standard rinses are 2/3/4 depending on cycle and amount loaded. Duvet (comforter) cycle and any cotton load in excess of 6kg receive 4 rinses automatically.
Greetings all
I have the AEG clones of these e'lux machines and yes one can add up to 5 extra rinses - the standard rinses are 2/3/4 depending on cycle and amount loaded. Duvet (comforter) cycle and any cotton load in excess of 6kg receive 4 rinses automatically.
Frigidairs New Stacked ands Compact Laundry
The first thing I noticed is on the 27" full sized stack it looks like they have already abandoned the terrible one piece agi-tub, they may be using the same design that GE has been using for several years in its 27" and 24" stacks now that FD bought GEs appliance division. [ note GEs 24 and 27" stack washers have been having catastrophic failures in the washer part of their stacks, I have written estimates as high as $900 on machines that are just a few years old].
I would love to see proof that these compact condensing dryers use less electricity to dry a load of clothing, in my testing of a 1966 Frigidaire Filtrater dryer vs a 1970ish 29" WP dryer the FD uses at least 25% more power and I will not even comment on the slow speed of the FD. And of coerce they fail to mention the heat dumped in the house that the A/C has to remove [ more people world wide are moving to and living in warmer locations ] and again this dryer is not available in GAS which is a very popular way that makes doing laundry in the US more environmentally friendly than almost any washer-dryer system that relies on electricity for heating wash water and drying the clothing.
Other thoughts, I have never seen ANY clothes dryer that has brushes in the motor, also a number of dryers the world over have seprate motors for the tumbler and the blower, the little Italian built WP dryers sold here for about the last ten years have dual motors.
The first thing I noticed is on the 27" full sized stack it looks like they have already abandoned the terrible one piece agi-tub, they may be using the same design that GE has been using for several years in its 27" and 24" stacks now that FD bought GEs appliance division. [ note GEs 24 and 27" stack washers have been having catastrophic failures in the washer part of their stacks, I have written estimates as high as $900 on machines that are just a few years old].
I would love to see proof that these compact condensing dryers use less electricity to dry a load of clothing, in my testing of a 1966 Frigidaire Filtrater dryer vs a 1970ish 29" WP dryer the FD uses at least 25% more power and I will not even comment on the slow speed of the FD. And of coerce they fail to mention the heat dumped in the house that the A/C has to remove [ more people world wide are moving to and living in warmer locations ] and again this dryer is not available in GAS which is a very popular way that makes doing laundry in the US more environmentally friendly than almost any washer-dryer system that relies on electricity for heating wash water and drying the clothing.
Other thoughts, I have never seen ANY clothes dryer that has brushes in the motor, also a number of dryers the world over have seprate motors for the tumbler and the blower, the little Italian built WP dryers sold here for about the last ten years have dual motors.
ronhic
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The last test done by our consumer magazine, Choice, confirmed that Heat-Pump condenser dryers used approximately half the electricity when compared to a normal condenser or vented dryer per KG of clothes.
So, regardless of load and size of machine, a Heat-Pump condenser will cost half the money to use than any other electric dryer.
Natural gas is approximately the same as a Heat-Pump dryer. However, we only have one natural gas dryer that is available domestically in our market and the majority of people would consider it nuts to run a gas line to the laundry.
So, regardless of load and size of machine, a Heat-Pump condenser will cost half the money to use than any other electric dryer.
Natural gas is approximately the same as a Heat-Pump dryer. However, we only have one natural gas dryer that is available domestically in our market and the majority of people would consider it nuts to run a gas line to the laundry.
mrb627
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Rating?
Are these AEG machines highly regarded or considered middle of the pack or even junk?
I don't think these are heat-pump dryers (US version), but air-cooled condensers.
Malcolm
Are these AEG machines highly regarded or considered middle of the pack or even junk?
I don't think these are heat-pump dryers (US version), but air-cooled condensers.
Malcolm
ronhic
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All Electrolux machines get solid ratings. The EWF14912 which looks closest to the one in the original post scored:
Wash - 75%
Rinse - 83%
Gentleness - 71%
Water efficiency - 87%
Spin - 75%
Those results are from a machine with a capacity is 9kg. Choice, however, choose to test 3.5kg across the board as this is the average load that consumers wash regardless of machine size. Additionally, they test in tap cold water. In our market, this machine is $1500....so getting close to Miele money though the range does start at around $900 and less. Some of the lower priced machines scored 80% of dirt removal.
Wash - 75%
Rinse - 83%
Gentleness - 71%
Water efficiency - 87%
Spin - 75%
Those results are from a machine with a capacity is 9kg. Choice, however, choose to test 3.5kg across the board as this is the average load that consumers wash regardless of machine size. Additionally, they test in tap cold water. In our market, this machine is $1500....so getting close to Miele money though the range does start at around $900 and less. Some of the lower priced machines scored 80% of dirt removal.
I wouldn't be caught buying an Electrolux appliance because their company philosophy seems to be to swallow smaller companies, shut everything down and produce the machines as cheaply as possible.
That being said, AEG-branded laundry in Germany seems to be positioned more towards the higher-end section (think Kenmore Elite). Their washers and dryers get solid ratings by our consumer magazine - not Bosch or Miele, but okay.
If you want to see them running, youtube "aeg protex".
That being said, AEG-branded laundry in Germany seems to be positioned more towards the higher-end section (think Kenmore Elite). Their washers and dryers get solid ratings by our consumer magazine - not Bosch or Miele, but okay.
If you want to see them running, youtube "aeg protex".
