Electrolux washers

[georgect]

Launderess...

Yep I see it too but I think that's a type-o or unless they mean not to exceed 4 hours with all options chosen.

"up to" is used to cover their claims of 144 minutes in case of balancing issues, extended wash time, pre wash, extra rinse etc.

 

[norfolksouthern]

Here's a YouTube video I just dug up

It gives some graphic detail about what can go wrong with an Electrolux-made front loader. Keep this in mind when you take one of these home; they are very delicate and can corrode in places you can't see. In the end, the parts alone would have been prohibitively expensive for this owner, so the machine went to the crusher. It was only 7 years old.

NorfolkSouthern

 

[mark_wpduet]

Yes

that's the aluminum spider issue that is very well known with the Frigemore's made by Electrolux. I've asked several times if anyone on here knows if any of the other modern US FL washers use an aluminum spider, Whirlpool, Electrolux, LG, etc.. No one knows. My Duet could end up having this same problem. I have no clue if the spider assembly on my Duet is aluminum or not. Hopefully NOT. And hopefully NOT on these more expensive FL washers. I think the Firgemores are BOL for US front loaders.

 

[rayjay]

I guess because the machines is so new that there are not videos out there yet.

 

[ronhic]

mmmmm.....

I could see a court case going on here if people got together...

To say the inner drum has a 25yr warranty but the spider doesn't is pretty much false advertising when the spider isn't available as a separate spare part.

...they are one and the same item if they are sold together

 

[mysteryclock]

SQ construction vs. Fridge-Lux?

Launderess,

Over in the Speed Queen thread you mentioned that the current SQ FLs have a "non-unit tub and bearing assembly" that should enable future bearing repairs. Can you or someone contrast that with the rather detailed Frigidaire video and tell me how that's different, in layman's terms? Are the spiders on the SQ assembly at least steel or something that won't react with the tub?

I'd love to see some pictures of theirs after having seen how the F-lux was put together (yikes!!)

 

[rayjay]

I do not think we can compare the new Electrolux line with the old Frigidaire line. The Electrolux line is new and is not manufactured like the Frig-mores, etc.

 

[whirlcool]

If the spider is bolted/welded to the basket, it is really the basket at should be covered as such.

Conn's a appliance retailer here in Houston is being taken to court for pushing extended warranties and not covering the units when they break. The could have to pay $20K per individual case.

The state got involved when they received over 2000 complaints about Conn's not following repairs. When you think about it, that's not a lot.

Whoever did that video did a very nice job on it. It explained and demonstrated the problem very clearly and cleanly.

 

[launderess]

IIRC, a member posted work done on his Maytag Neptune tubs and bearing. Looking at those posts and pictures should give you a general idea.

Normally and at least for most commercial front loaders you have an outer and inner tub, plus the bearings and spider and other bits holding it all together (very simple description).

Where the tubs are an assembly instead of separate units, it tis just that, both tubs, bearings, spider et all are one componet. If the bearings and or spider goes, one is supposed to swap out the entire thing, rather than merely replace the bearing and or spider, and put the thing back together again.

 

[mysteryclock]

That's sort of what I thought, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Given SQs commercial bloodlines I can't imagine they'd engineer anything that would require the WHOLE TUB to be replaced for a bearing or spider issue.

So does anyone know how the current Electrolux machines are put together? Anybody had one apart yet or willing to take theirs apart for the obligatory money shots?

 

[launderess]

To Be Fair

Move towards tub assemblies rather than separate tubs prolly has much to do with washing machines becoming more likely not to be repaired either outof design and or cost or both.

Aside from SQ, Miele and perhaps a few others, it is rare to find long warranties on tubs, bearings, motor and such as of old. If the washing machine will last on average only four or five years (sad, isn't it?), before requiring a repair that may cost more than replacement, then what is the point of having tubs that will last the duration and or designing for bearing replacement?

On any front loading washing machine, replacing the bearings is not usually an easy job, nor very cheap. On Miele units one has to have not only the knowledge,skills, and tools, but a winch as well to lift out what amounts to roughly more than 200lbs.

Commercial front loaders such as those found in laundromats OTHO are designed for bearing replacment, mainly because of their long life and abuse taken.

 

[whirlcool]

I think in the case of Frigidaire, the 25 year warranty on the basket is more of a selling attraction in rather than an accurate description of what you will actually get.

 

[ronhic]

BUT....

I find it interesting that they warrant a part for a certain period and then when a 'compulsory' component of that part fails they are not prepared to honour their warranty...

The US court system would have a field day with that...

...AND it could be the precursor to manufacturers either giving more realistic warranties

...OR ensuring the componentry in their machines in actually up to the job they are warranting...

Blimey....could this be the mythical 'yellow brick road' to better appliance quality????

 

[cleanteamofny]

Today is D-Day!

After looking at this video and I may buy the extended warranty and
by now the problems with the spider should be worked out hopefully!

 

[cleanteamofny]

Sears delivery came one hour before schedule arrival time which was between 6-8 yesterday evening and everything went well!

I'm quite amazed how little water these washers uses but everything comes out well washed and rinsed.
The balancing act is real quick and extraction ramps up quite fast on max. The pump makes more noise than when
it is washing and spinning which is normal for this type of machine and I thought I was the only one who was watching the machine!

 

[launderess]

Just Love The Cat!

He seems not to know what to make of thing big red thing which as invaded his turf! *LOL*

L.

 

[cleanteamofny]

Thanks

That is so true L.
He had a fit trying to find out what was going on behind the closed door when Sears setting up the washer!

Now you can see who pulled a seat to the worlds largest laundry TV. lol

 

[rayjay]

Larry, Best of luck with such a beautiful machine. (I would have picked the red also). Keep us posted on all the loads that you do this weekend.

Ray

 

[cleanteamofny]

You know Ray?
I've saved my whites for the main test because my towels and wash cloths are white and somewhat grey because of the liquid body soap that I was using,
and in just one washing with Tide HE Original/STPP and LCB the cloths are cleaner looking than being washed in my TL'r.
Don't get me wrong, they were clean, but since this washer uses so little water, the detergent is very concentrated to remove stains
that requires multible washes to get as clean as in one wash in a FL'r.

If you look at the pile of cloths next to the box of Bold PLus, those were washed in the FL'r.
The two Cloths below the pile was washed in my TL'r..
Notice the difference!?!

 

[cleanteamofny]

Can you believe the difference?

See it for yourself!
Un-retouched
Side by side.......