Electrolux washers

[rayjay]

WOW

Hi Larry, I really so happy for you. I am also glad that I sent you the reviews and did some research and guided you in the right direction. I used to use the liquid body soap and did experience the same. SInce I have sensitive skin I switched back to Dove bar soap.

I try to tell all my friends that front loaders are better. But.....a lot of Americans want the job done quick. But, as you know, quicker is not always better. WHen I had top loaders, I always ran the whites and most of the wash through a soak or pre=wash. Yes...this did take longer, but when the whites were put out on the line, you could really see the difference. A lot of people just do not know how to wash slothes, they throw it in, and hope for the best. In my LG I usually run a pre-wash and also the stain cycle, sometimes the sanitary cycle. My sons white sock come out spotless. My sons friends sometimes leavy their sock here, I wash them and their mom, (our good friend) cannot beliewe how nice the come out. Of course....nothing like LCB also. lol

A friend of mine and his wife just bouth the Ge front loaders. She complained that it too so long, but after a few weeks, it did not bother her, since she noticed a big difference in the clothes.

Larry....I just tried the new Cheer 2x HE. It is really great for a liquid. I still ilke the Tide powder HE and I am still trying the find the Cheer HE 2x powder.

You will see as you go along how nice the wssh comes out. I mean a 9 or 10 min wash in a top loader???? What is that going to do? Unless, the load is very ligthly soiled.

Keep us posted on more loads.

Now I really want this machine. lol lol

I also like the Shaklee Powder HE. A nice clean scent, no flowers or cady smelling laundry. lol

Ray

 

[rayjay]

Just think how nice those white skievies will come out??? lol lol

I keep fogetting to get sstp. Glad you reminded me in your post.

Well....Larry, when is the wash-in??????

 

[cleanteamofny]

Ray, thanks for the reviews and recommendations!

That cady smell is Tide HE, it reeks but cleans well!
LOL

I do some what regret not getting the TOL Lux because of cycle flexiblity but to wash a comforter really does not matter as long as the job gets done and that will be tommorrow.
The instruction manual lacks giving info on washing bulky items with the correct cycle..... Why is that?
Also, I do have a bottle of Cheer HE but havn't washed a load with it yet.
And I do like the scent of Cheer regular and Tide with Dawn. Mild and not over powering.

Just be patient, you will get a set when the time is right!
As for a washin, maybe late fall, getting a plumber to work some piping around here is like fisting a chicken.

LOL.

 

[rayjay]

I do some what regret not getting the TOL Lux

Larry, Seara is very good at exchanging. If you really, really want the Wave Touch TOL, And the Wave touch has a button to have the light on during the wash cycle, I am sure Sears would exchange.

 

[georgect]

Bulky Items...

I think the reason that Electrolux doen't have a "Bulky" cycle is because the smarts are built into each cycle so it doen't need one.

I don't think Euro washers have a "Bulky" cycle, I believe it's an American thing...maybe just another cycle to add to the lineup of cycles.

 

[thomasortega]

The bulky cycle isn't important.

It's just a "commercial" cycle.

Here in Brazil, some Electrolux models used to have up to 30 different cycles, including "ordinary pants and shirts", "dress pants and shirts" and "black pants and shirts" and also more than 15 selectable options for each cycle.

of course a model with zillions of repeated cycles is much more expensive than a model with four or five cycles

 

[favorit]

Indeed some FLs have too many cycles

.... that, as Thomas wrote, are other standard cycles with some options selected by default.

I.e. in the euro mieles "dress shirts" is basically a "perma press" without interim spins, with max 600 rpm final spin and with a default waterplus/higher level.

"Jeans/denim" is again a "permapress" without interim spins, with a 3rd rinse and max 900 rpm final spin

"dark clothes" is a "cottons" with higher wash/rinse levels, interim spins and max 1200 rpm final spin instead of 1600

So which cycle works best to wash some black denim shirts ??
They're shirts, but they're denim and they're black too ..

Choose Perma press with waterplus/higher level, low/med spin speed and go !

To cut a long story short, I think that user's brain is the best programmer.
It's the user that should force the machine to do what he/she wants, not the machine performing mystery cycles.

When one learns driving cars, he/she (should) learn the behaviour of the car in various situations.
The same should be with washers. The consumer should know why the machine has a certain behaviour. I.e. why wool can't stand tumbles and it can't stand pulse spins ? Why syntetics do need a cooldown at the end of the washbath ?

I am not saying that everyone should have the skills of professional laundry techs, just should know a little more about this mysterious "washing box" .
Everyone drives a car, but not everyone is a F1 driver ;-))
Yet everyone should know how to drive on wet/frozen roads

Sadly companies don't think so. They deal with customers as they were cave people, giving them silly things such as that stupid "stuffed animals" cycle in the new W5000/6000 mieles.
Who could use that ?? maybe MrBean as Teddy's spa ?!? )

Not a case they have also some "plain" models (W3903 - basic cycles, big prints, no gadgets)

 

[suburbanmd]

Bulky cycle

I would've thought that bulky items, too big to tumble around much, would tend to get wet only around the outside, if there's no bulky cycle to tell the machine to somehow treat them differently.

 

[ronhic]

Not so

Suburbanmd....

Most new front loaders have pressure sensors in them that register the water level. As a result the fill, tumble and then depending on how much water has been absorbed the level in the drum will have dropped and they fill some more until the load stops absorbing...there fore the water level stops dropping

 

[suburbanmd]

ronhic, I'm thinking of the case where the load is a comforter (doona in Australia, right?) big enough so it turns along with the drum and doesn't tumble. Then the same surface keeps coming into contact with the water at the bottom. It would get good and wet, but that wetness would only migrate slowly to the center of the comforter, no?

 

[launderess]

Bulky Items

Domestic front loaders have several methods for doing "bulky" items such as pillows and duvets.

Miele amoung others has a special cycle for "comforters" and pillows where first the machine will do a very fast spin to get the air out of the item, the commences with washing and rinsing using high water levels.

Other front loaders simply instruct one to load bulky items a certian way, then commence with a wash programme that uses high water levels for washing and rinsing.

Personally feel anything larger than a double sized comforter, should go to either a commercial laundry or off to the laundromat for one of the huge "triple" sized front loaders.

Besides tubs with more than enough volume to handle bulky items, the wash and rinse action IMHO is more through because entire item gets exposed to water. Also down filled items can hold LOTS of water and become quit heavy. Unless the domestic washing machine in question has sturdy build quality and programs designed to cope with large volumes of water and perhaps suds being extracted quite quickly, there may be problems. Persons have literally caused their home front loaders to bash themselves to bits trying to cope with a very unbalanced, and heavy load.

L.

 

[ronhic]

You might be surprised just how fast the water moves to the middle of the load...especially if it is a synthetic comforter...less then 10minutes I reckon...

...it is something you can try anyway. I can pause my machine and open the door on washes cooler than 60c and if you can do the same (pause/add) you can tell - just stick your hand in the middle and feel

 

[suburbanmd]

ronhic

Thanks, but I wasn't asking for myself (have a Miele with comforters cycle). Rather, I was commenting on Thomas' statement that a bulky cycle isn't important. Also, when the Electroluxes were announced in the US, I looked at the manuals online, and was surprised at the lack of a bulky cycle, especially in such a large machine that would seem ideal for comforters.

 

[launderess]

"Lack of a bulky cycle..."

Like I said, for a front loading washer to cope with large and heavy items that will also hold lots of water, requires a certian level of design and build quality.

In theory any front loading washer should be able to handle "bulky" items. Though how clean the item will be, and in what condition it and the washing machine will be in afterwards is another matter.

L.

 

[logixx]

Our Electrolux washer does have a Bulky Items cycle. Here's the video:

 

[logixx]

And if you scroll down the playlist, you can see how it copes with a feather bed:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CB7E6ADDE5435292

 

[thomasortega]

Bulky vs modern FLs

I agree with the difference of having a spin before the fill. it helps (sometimes).

But if we get a modern front loader, for example Frigidaire Affinity or the new Electrolux, we would discover they don't have a bulky items cycle.

The answer is very simple and can be compared to a previous post above.

What if the comforter is made of black denim? Which cycle? Bulky, blacks or jeans?

The solutions is very simple.

no matter if it's bulky or not. the machine should be smart enough to detect the load. just choose the cycle based on the fabric. (cotton, sysnthetics) and it's soil level (too dirty, heavy cycle. Not so dirty, normal cycle, etc..) That's why I say the bulky cycle isn't important.

Both machines will detect a bulky item by itself and ouviously use more water (much more).

Also, during the spin, is ouvious a lot of water will come out of the clothes and it can cause a huge problem. The machine should be smart enough to detect it too. Both machines (even having those monster pumps) stop spinning immediatelly and start draining again. no matter how many times it's necessary to do these ramps, they will do it and save the machine.

Yesterday I washed two thin (but very big) comforters at the same time in my Affinity. everything came out perfectly clean and rinsed (even being a HE machine).

If you pause (for 10 minutes) one of these machines during the wash, you'll see there's a lot of water, much above the bottom of the door.

 

[cleanteamofny]

Bulky Cycle is needed on this machine

As for the water level in this machine, it's consistance in all cycles, 1/2 inch in the front to 4-5 inches in the rear.
The water level never goes to the door seal in any cycles including delicate.

Just finished doing two comforters and they washed well.
BUT as for the mattress pad, I used the Sanitary cycle which is 2 hours long and one of the three stains did not wash out.
Tide powder did not breakdown during the cycle. I've already dried it and didn't take note of it until it was placed
back on mattress and returned to the box spring. I will re-wash tomorrow after my B-friend leaves.
I wish these MFG would give the user three choices of water levels : Auto, Med and High.

 

[georgect]

Try Stain Clean option?

CleanteamofNY...
Did you try the "Stain Clean" option? If not try that the second time around.

Did you try LCB? That could be another thing to try to remove the stains that didn't remove the first time.

 

[thomasortega]

sure, during the wash and rinse cycles, water should never reach the door seal

what i mentioned about water above the door during the long pauses is only to demonstrate how much water it uses when washing a bulky and absorvent load.

There's something I don't like on those machines. the water spray above the door.

if the water pressure is too low in your house, water won't spray and there will be a lot of detergent residue on the glass.