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Does anyone remember much about electronic typewriters? My grandparents each had electric typewriters. I had a few manual Smith Corona typewriters growing up but later we had some electronic ones.

The ribbon looked more like film and was in a plastic cartridge. There was a wheel that had the letters on it which spun and printed on the paper. I seem to recall there was a button that would erase a letter or an entire word automatically. One model we had would also beep if you misspelled a word. I seem to recall yet another had an LCD screen on the front but I can't recall what it was for. Another fun feature was the demo, which would print out an entire stored letter about the features of the machine.

These seem to turn up in thrift stores a lot, but I don't think are being made anymore.
 
 
Had one at work, handed over from the owners' dad.  Used it for tax forms and such that were easier to do on it than trying to run them through the computer printer.  It may still be there in storage but been years since last used.
 
IBM Selectric I and II

Sounds like what you are describing.

Learned to type on one in high school, and spent may years in offices doing the same. Only when word processing finally pushed out typing that one began to switch over.

Saw one last year in the window of a local thrift shop but as one has three or four typewriters (cannot recall) already didn't bother.

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Have a Hermes manual typewriter

That one only uses for the fancy script type. Otherwise find it too painful to type on for long periods. Having been taught and come up on electric and later electronic typewriters the effort required to type on the Hermes is too much. Now understand all those "hunt and peck" type scenes from films and television shows. You really have to press down hard with these things.
 
One of my Aunt's

taught typing to high school students. This was back on the 50's and 60's and everyone learned on manual typewriters. My Aunt could type 120 words a min on a Royal standard size manual, with blind keys! Watching her was really impressive. My Mom worked for a country doctor and she typed all his records while wearing headphones for a Dictaphone. When she first began to work for him he had an Olympic manual, Mom finally convinced him to buy an IBM Selectric, which was much easier to type on. But the original Selectric's didn't have a correction tape, you either used an eraser, or white out, which was new to the market in the early 60's, and was a real boom compared to using an eraser. And does anyone remember typing "masters" that could be attached to a mimeograph machine to make copies. This was before photo copy machines became commonplace. If you made an error while typing a master, you had to use a razor blade to scrap off the error.

The electronic typewriters that are referred to in the original post were sold during the 80's and early 90's buy Sharp, Brother and some other companies. They were real POS's. I had one for a brief time, hated it and took it back. I'm so spoiled now by the computer I'd have a hard time going back to a typewriter, but I could if need be.
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Have an Olympia "Monica" electronic typewriter

That needs a new home. May just donate to a thrift and call it a day.

Actually went out and purchased a few typewriters recently after getting fed up with doing envelopes, short memos, letters, etc... on computer and printing them out. As one who spent more years than care recalling doing such things ten or more times per day in an office, can do them faster on a typewriter than messing about with a computer/printer.

Electronic typewriters for home were the last gasp attempt by manufacturers to keep up with changing times. Some functions once learned were quite helpful, others not so much.

Being able to go back, erase a work, type in the correction then go back to where one was previously was a big deal. So was entire line erase as well. The ability to store frequently used words or such in a memory was useful as well. You could store headers, footers, addresses, names, etc.. all to be recalled with a touch of a button or two.
 
Blind keys!  I'd forgotten all about those.  The manual Underwood I learned on in 9th grade had blind keys. 

 

I once hit 52 WPM on a manual typewriter, but that was exceptional.  My average was 35-40.  I couldn't hit anywhere near that on a manual anymore.  The long keystrokes and required heavy touch are so clunky and archaic compared to a modern keyboard.  A few years ago I gave a barely used 1940 Corona as a gift and it took me forever to type a very short note on a birthday card.  I managed to make a typo anyway.

 

We certainly had to be far more disciplined back then, and as mentioned above, particularly so when typing a mimeograph or Ditto master.  In my experience, Ditto masters were the only slightly more forgiving of the two.

 

The IBM Selectrics were the gold standard when I worked in various office jobs after high school.   No moving carriage to bat around, relatively quiet, and when outfitted with a carbon ribbon, they provided a crisp, professional look to correspondence.   Blotchy floating capitals became a thing of the past.

 

I like the sleek rounded look of the early Selectrics, but if I were to own one, I'd want one of the more squared-off looking correcting models.

 

I never used any of the "daisy wheel" electronic machines or early "processors" like the Xerox Memorywriter.   I made the leap from typewriting to using PFS Write with an IBM PC, and it took some getting used to typing "on" a small screen instead of paper.

 

 
 
Not all 80s electronics were PsOS. I have the Smith Corona daisywheel in the original post. All the mechanics were cast/machined aluminum. You could whop a dozen people over the head with it and still write their obituaries. Various memory capacities, mine was like ~7 characters; erase by holding down backspace. Computer input, no idea what program wrote the format. Very 'Selectric' key feel. Somewhat expensive but not outrageous like IBM and nowhere near as mechanically overwrought.

Like new, not even dusty, yours for shipping but it weighs around 40#.
 
don't forget the Electronics made by IBM, Xerox, & Exxon

In the 80's there were several electronic typewriters. They were the follow on to the IBM MT/ST and Magnetic Card machines. The IBM machines first used a 96 character element (ball) and later went to the more common daisy wheel which was used by Xerox for the MemoryWriter (successor to the Xerox 800 Electronic Typing System - which also used a daisy wheel).

Pretty neat machines - would love to find an IBM Electronic Model 90 which was the top of the line.

Here are photos of the MT/ST (the one that started it all with the concept of "Power Typing" - they didn't call it "Word Processing" yet) and a photo of a later IBM Electronic 65 that is on eBay. I also have some sales literature from IBM, Xerox and Exxon - if there is any interest I can scan and post them.

These were very cool machines... I have an 1968 IBM MT/ST and Circa 1973 Xerox 800 Tape machine in storage. Back in my high school and college days, I would type all my brothers papers along with mine and a few others that I charged by the page. If you knew how to operate them, you could do quite a lot with them in spite of the fact there was no screen - just the paper.

Alan

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Now you're talking my language!

I've got quite a few keyboard-based machines around here and have a tough time turning down the odd typewriter. IBM had worked for some time to advance 'word processing' even in the 1960's with their Mag Tape Selectric and later the Mag Card Selectric, but these were expensive enough that you rented rather than bought.

In the 70's they eventually reduced it down to the size of a large Selectric II and incorporated an internal tape mechanism with the facility to save 50, and later 100 documents (Memory Writer). This way you could type up your doc, make corrections, insertions/deletions, toss the typo'd original, put in a fresh sheet of paper and hit go.

Regarding the electronic typewriters, the lag between hitting a key and imprinting on paper drove me nuts (like the Wheelwriters) but I did have a favorite made by Canon that took a film ribbon and was absolutely silent at printing. It was small enough to fit in a backpack and could run on batteries, making it handy for in-class assignments. It also had a small LCD display allowing you to type your sentence before striking return and committing it to paper.

To this day there are few things as complicated as the Selectric mechanism, but you'll be hard pressed to find one that works without attention. The problem is two-fold. One, there's a plastic cord pulley that disintegrates with age (new ones are available but replacement can be tricky if you don't do it from the get-go).

And two, the oil and grease originally used throughout the mechanism needs to be flushed away and the whole unit re-lubed with the proper oil in the proper places. Even if you can coax a machine to work without first doing this you end up putting a lot of strain on the motor and other parts that will lead to an even bigger failure long-term.
 
Cole,

I think the LCD screen was when word processing capability came along, as a transitional feature.
I loved the sound those IBM Selectrics made with the ball of type dyes on them.
 
Still have my SC Deville 110

with 35k dictionary. Typed many a term paper on it in college
 
Learned to type in elementary school late 1960s on a Royal manual. Could do 23-24 wpm. California began gifted/talented education in 1961, paying extra funds to schools that offered gifted education programs. One of the stipulations was that the school had to offer additional enrichment education in fields not otherwise covered by the curriculum. Our school district did this by creating a "geek class" in 4-5-6th grades, with pull-out enrichment sessions. The geeks got typing classes two weeks twice a year for two years, or eight weeks of instruction over two years. We did other enrichment units as well, but the ability to type in those days was considered a key academic skill for potential high school and college honors students (and basic computing to this day is still considered a basic academic skill, required in many school districts). I could do 38 wpm on our home typewrite, discussed below, which motivated me to keep trying. Clearly electric typewriters were the wave of the future.

At home, we had a Smith-Corona Electra portable. It had type bars and a standard ribbon, you could lock the type bars if you pressed two keys too close together in time, but the keys were electrically powered: it didn't matter if you applied too much or too little pressure on the key, the impression came out right. It had a moving carriage like a manual, though some later models had a Carriage Return button so you didn't have to push the level manually to return the carriage to type the next line. We called these "electric typewriters" (not electronic).

The IBM Selectric was also considered an electric typewriter, but there was no moving carriage. The type ball moved left to right across the page and imprinted the text from a plastic film tape. The platen moved up a line (or two, depending on settings) at the end of a line; you pushed a Return key to do this, it wasn't automatic. In this respect, it shared some features with future dot matrix printers. As far as I know, Selectrics initially were leased by IBM to businesses and schools, but you couldn't buy one in a retail store. I knew one girl in college who had one, I suspect her father leased some for his business and leased an extra one for his daughter to take to college.

"electronic typewriters" came on the market in the early 1980s. They often used a daisy wheel with fonts plus a plastic film tape. Daisy wheel moved across the page like a Selectric. Better models had memory and the best ones could function as primitive word processors. Some could be used as computer printers (but rather slow...).

I bought a Smith-Corona Coronet portable electric for $119 in the fall of my junior year; between my parents, my sister, and I, there was too much work for a single typewriter, plus my parents knew I would need one for college. The store also had the model with Carriage Return button for $149, but I thought it was too much money. I used this machine for "word processing" until I bought my first PC in the mid-1990s, so the Smith Corona gave me 24+ years of reliable service. During college years, I used to drop mine off at a typewriter repair store at the end of the school year. They would perform annual suggested maintenance (lubrication, replace worn belts, make adjustments) and store the machine for me over the summer (I was from California and went to school in New England). This relieved me of having to find secure storage for the machine over the summer, nor did I have to tote it home on the plane when I went home for the summer.

The machines below with manual carriage return resemble the one I owned. The side view is of a slightly earlier "Electra" model, while the overhead view is of my "Coronet" model. The white buttons adjusted the margins. Left of the platen is a selector level for single, double, or triple spacing. There were numbers and lines embossed on the left end of the platen (you can see a "9") which told you---if you remembered to align your paper and platen when you began---how many inches until the bottom of the page. This was useful if you had to do footnotes rather than endnotes. My model, probably a bit newer than the Electra shown here, had a "Half Space" key to the left of the space bar. This allowed you to retype an erroneous word and squeeze in or delete an additional letter, without having to retype the entire line. The key to the right of the space bar is the "Power Space" which simply advanced the carriage repeatedly if you kept it depressed; my model did the same simply by depressing and holding the space bar.

The white-banded key (#1) on the Electra was a key that could be changed to do foreign language fonts (German, French, Spanish). The "1" could be substituted by a lower case "l", and "!" could be approximated by typing a comma, backspacing, and typing a period below it. Copy Set adjusted the keystroke pressure in case you were doing carbon copies.

The third image shows the higher end Coronet--the one I thought was too costly--- with Power Return button: no more manual return level to move the carriage back. The final image (yellow typewriter) shows a mid-1970s, fully loaded Coronet 12 with Power Return key AND a pop-out ribbon cartridge rather than a spool ribbon. I am not sure when the cartridge was introduced, but it was not available in 1972 when I bought my machine, and many of my college classmates arriving to start school in 1974 came with brand new cartridge Coronet 12's (their high school graduation or off to college gift from relatives), so the cartridge was introduced 1974 at the latest. Possibly in 1973. By 1974 the manual carriage return had been phased out and all of the new models had Power Return keys. [this post was last edited: 2/25/2016-13:02]

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Just today

I learned to type on a manual typewriter in my Senior year of HS.  I'm assuming it was a Royal, but those years are getting fuzzy...

 

Funny that I found this thread today.  I just returned from a trip to my Jeep dealership for some service, and while I was there I wandered through the showroom and heard this odd noise coming from the receptionist's desk.  She was using a typewriter.  My goodness, when was the last time I heard THAT?  She and I talked about what she was doing; she said it's how they produce addenda for sales contracts.  She said the typewriter (I did not get a full look at it) had correcting capabilities, but did not have the correcting ribbon in it now.  Judging by the noise the typewriter was making and her description of the unit, I'm betting it was a Correcting Selectric.

 

lawrence
 
Later Selectric models had the correcting tape. It could lift off up to one line of text, so it must have had a primitive memory. Each time you depressed the key, it would lift off the most recent character typed. If you held the key down, it would backspace-lift off-backspace-lift off etc. moving backwards across the line, until you released the key. I don't recall that it could erase the preceding line, only the line on which you were working. And you are correct, if you were out of correction tape, you could type (separate ribbon) but not correct.
 
Alan,

It looks like both you and I were posting at the exact same time about the MT/ST and MC/ST machines! IIRC the 96 character element debuted on the Sel III, the others use a 72.

And if you really want to push the definition of word processing, here's a video of one of my Flexowriters. If you made a mistake while typing, you could rubout that code on tape with a keypress. You could also program in stops and merge tapes from multiple readers.

 
fan of fans:

I see them at thrifts regularly. If typewriters are made, they must be in some part of the world insulated from all news. I too took typing in HS - slow 35wpm with accuracy and one or two electrics were used by some whiz girl students only.

Cory -that's such a cool machine - never saw one before and loved watching the videos of it working. IBM's need constant use and lubrication and repairs when they were office norms -wife can testify, she has been on all mechanical and electric and computerized equipment since 1972 to now (alot of IBM equipment!)

I have a couple mechanical -a Hermes and a Tower Constellation. The rest electricals - Olivetti RT5400l, IBM Wheelwriter 5 and a Personal Writer, IBM selectrics II and III(tan, black, green colors), Panasonic R310(another word processor electric), Sears Electronic Communicator I,Sears SR 1000C(Daisy-Wheel full ling memory correction), Smith Corona PWP(Personal Word Processor)2400- left out the Personal Writer and an image of the Tower Constellation manual. There are mamy better looking and more collectible than mine here, but...enough for me(need to downsize).

That's neat - someone using a typewriter at a dealership! A couple years ago, my wife and I went to Pontiac, MI. court house and there were many Wheelwriter's in use. It was fun hearing and seeing these still working for some select form generation(?).


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Numerous fully electronic portable typewriters appeared in the early 80's but by far SCM was the leader with their PWP (Personal Word Processor) series ranging from simple machines with no display or memory other than for a word or two you could erase up to machines with a 9 line display, built in thesaurus , right hand justification, pagination etc. I had one but it was a tedious process for a long doctument.  It also had a removable solid state memory card (about the size of a credit card) later replaced by a standard diskette. There was a tol model too, that came with a stand alone 9" ish CRT.  

 

One of my  favorite full size machine were the Xerox Memorywriters. I found one only a couple of years before we moved but I sold it when we moved  and I'd never seen another  up until about 3 years ago.  I was over at a friends place,  he'd retired from the hospital which was being shuttered and told me he'd brought some stuff home they were going to toss.. Of course I wanted to see this stuff so we go upstairs to the spare bedroom and there sitting on a desk is a TOL Memorywriter with the CRT.. It's mine now, I just haven't figured a way to get it from his house into mine without being caught.  LOL.  Here's a pic of one I grabbed of the web.  

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