Eureka 664A...a close match to the vacuum of my childhood!

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Though I have a general vacuum cleaner obsession, the one machine I have always been fascinated with is the old-style Eureka upright (even before I could watch the washer), and using/hearing one brings back MANY memories. Why? Well...we actually had a pair of retro late-1970's Eurekas in our old house in Houston. I called them the "Red Vacuum" and the "Blue Vacuum"--and they were used for the second and first floors, respectively. There is actually a home video from 1990...with a scene of me, at age 2, using the red machine!

Sadly, both met their demise in 1992, when I was about 4. My dad picked up pieces of sheetrock (smart move...) with the dark-blue Eureka and ruined it. It literally jammed the fan; not a good idea with a fan-first machine. Unfortunately the "Blue Vacuum" was in better shape as well. Had I been older, I would have been able to repair it. The red-orange Eureka, which was an older machine, had a few tears in the outer bag, (from what I've seen now, this is pretty common with these machines), but otherwise worked fine which was a shame...a new outer bag would have fixed that. They were replaced with a 6.5 amp Eureka Bravo! TheBOSS...which was one of the most horrible vacuums to this date, IMHO. I have always wanted to find another red-orange & blue Eureka pair and constantly searched eBay...found many red Eurekas but nearly all of them were "schmutzy" and not even worth looking at.

Until late June, when I spotted a bright orange Eureka 664A on eBay. Not the exact match (ours had a round Dial-A-Nap knob and no headlight) but very close. The hood had a few scratches, but the underside was in very nice shape. It finally arrived Wednesday...and after cleaning it up and smoothing out the rough plastic beater bars (bad design flaw), it was great to hear that "Eureka whine" again!! I do have another Eureka, a 1989 630D, but its whine isn't as pronounced as the 664A which made that machine even better.

They both do a fantastic job on carpets and aren't bad with the attachments either. Here's a picture of the new arrival!
 
Lights on! Yes, the machine did come with the headlight lens, but it's sitting on my dresser right now. It somehow came out during shipping and I will have to remove the hood (which means breaking and replacing the cord strain relief) to reattach it.
 
Eureka

When I was little, my Mom had a brown and tan Hamilton Beach upright that was a piece of sh*t as far back as I remember. I recall my Mother always saying that the next vacuum she got would be a Hoover. Well, in 1972, the HB finally died and Mom ended up getting a Eureka model 2010, with the gold "tapestry" dust bag. It had a four position Dial-a-Nap, no headlight and those crummy red plastic beaters. This was when those machines were all metal in the base. Mom said she decided to go Eureka over Hoover because the hood on the Hoover was plastic and she didn't like that. She also got the tool kit, which I thought was the most worthless thing I had ever seen (poor suction). That machine ran for years and years! At first Mom complained about the switch being on the base, rather than the handle. When she replaced that machine with a Monkey Wards (Eureka Built), she then complained she couldn't get used to the switch being back on the handle.

That old heavy metal Eureka was a champ on carpets but I alway got the Revelation canister we had for hose jobs (Gee, that didn't come out sounding right).

I was only mildly interested in vacuums until I was about 10 and we had a Kirby demo. Then I became obsessed almost to the exclusion of washers (I said almost). My childhood is still scarred as we did NOT get a Kirby (Parents too cheap to buy premium vac)
 
Nice little vacs there

I always find the soft bag uprights the nicest looking machines, no time for the new star wars or "transformer" looking stuff. Haven't seen one of those older Eurekas for quite a while. They sold in Canada as Eurekas and also to Eatons dept store brand Viking, usually as good, better, best depending on the model features.
 
I would also like to run into the metal body and fan Eureka uprights.The plastic fan and body ones are??? Their fans and plastic bodies BREAK all the time(Sanitaire models)At least they made the lower fan housing easily replaceable.With those older metal ones its VERY RARE that the body broke.Same with their fans-they were better than the plastic ones today.I also don't like Eureka plastic beater bars-they tore up a rug I used to have!Learned a hard lesson-Had to replace the roller brush and the rug.I thought some of the Eureka roller brushes had metal beater bars-maybe a Eureka expert can clarify.My Mom and Dad succomed to a Kirby demo the year I was born-1951,I am looking for a Kirby from that time-suppose it was a 501 or something.Used that Kirby until 1972 when it got lost in a flood. Bet it would still be running fine today if it survived.Loved using it.I was a baby at the time it was bought so I couldn't see the demo.The Kirby was bought near Cleveland Ohio-Kirbys hometown at the time.-Before the Andrews Tx factory was built.
 
Hi Rex,

Your parents' Kirby from 1951 would be the model 511. I see that model (and others as well) on eBay from time to time. Your best bet would be to get a collector-owned machine that has been restored.

With the 505 being the first "500 series" Kirby, the models go as follows:

505--1945,1946,1947
508--1948
509--1949
510--1950
511--1951
512--1952
513--1953
514--1954
515--1955
516--1956
517--1957
518--1958
519--1959
560--1960
561--1961
562--1962

After this came the Sanitronic series (which marked the end of the 1st Generation Kirby), then the Classic series (introduction of the Classic in 1969 marked the 2nd Generation), Tradition, Heritage, Heritage II/Legend, and finally, the Legend II, the last of the "2nd Generation". The Generation 3 was introduced in 1990.

--Austin
 
Eureka models

Austin,
a note on the model #'s of those Eurekas: both are from Kmart. Kmart and Eureka had a pretty close relationship, and they always had exclusive models, different colors and some features from Eureka's regular line.
the 664 is from the middle-late 70's, with the pastel machine being late 80's vintage.
You should be able to fix that headlight lens without removing the hood. On either side of the light lens frame is a small slot for a screwdriver to be inserted.
Just pry carefully!
Happy vacuuming!
Jeff
 
EUREKA......The VERY best in vacuum cleaners

Hi Austin,

I just gave away a model like that to my super cool next door neighbor to use in his cottage in northern Michigan, as he lets Marty and I go up when we wish and use it. My machine giveth away was orangy red like that, but had a four position "Dial-A-Nap", 3.5 amp motor, and the Disturbulator which has the nickable and damaging plastic beaters described above, which I replaced before I gave it to him.

Also Jeff is absolutly correct about how to get off the lens without removing the hood, by inserting a small flathead screwdriver,at the edge of the headlight housing and as described pry VERY carefully...and you should see how to replace the lens.Most later lenses with this type of housing were either held in by pressure fit, or in this case with the older series...has two small metal ears that hold the lens in place. These metal ears are held into the housing by two small flathead screws.

As to the "Disturbulator", I usually when I get these replace them with a CWP "aftermarket" brushroll that doesnt use beater bars, but instead uses different stiffer density bristles to impart that beating action, and then softer sweeeping bristles, and do a superb job of grooming the carpet, and produces a good, dirt removing buzz to the carpet. In the case of the vinyl bags...Eureka for whever reason as in comparison to Hoover, used either a different style of vinyl or had a inferior process to mold it, pleat it and emboss it as described elsewhere, becasue I have ran across FEW bags of Eureka design that diddnt have some sort of fraying, or chafing so to speak, that diddn't look tatty in a way. Your bag looks good.

I seem to have a soft spot for older Eureka's wheras Jeff primarily likes older Hoovers...

1. Chrome and black Eureka Model G, from about 1938, which was one of Eureka's first "rotary brush" models, that looks wildly like a Kirby 505; that does not have the original cloth bag, but has a good looking black replacement that only a trained eye could distinguish or care about.BUt strangely is only a single speed model.

2. Burgandy and creme yellow Eureka D272 from 1947-48, two speed model, with the original cloth bag that Has had to be sewn in spots to correct minor places where dust leaks, original brushroll AND Cord which is somewhat rare an has the clip style plug connector.

3. Two Tone Blue and Chrome Eureka model 260B "Dual Power Automatic" two speed, from about 1959 accroding to Ads that I have found...which as described in a previous reply of mine is all original, a few minor scratches to the hood, and has a chrome light lens like on your new cleaner, and the original, but stained...woven twill bag...which on ALL Eurekas have seen from the late 1950's and Early 60's until they went to vinyl in the 1970's have disintigrated into oblivion. It also has a square handle rahter than the more traditional round style.

4. My next one was a very wonderful gift from Jeff which is my Queen Anne Gold and cream Eureka "Touch Power" from about 1974-75. It's a Two Speed model 2082 with Cordaway, Rugulator, Vibra Groommer I, and a floral design tapestry style Boxtop bag. The best feature on this model was that in the molded handgrip was a squueze type switch, that when grasped started and stopped the cleaner in the LOW or HIGH positions. The third "middle" position of this switch was a TOOLS mode that allowed the cleaner to operate on HIGH without squeezing the handgrip. Becasue of the weaknesses described above and before in other posts, the zipper on this bag is VERY weak now (ironically a design flaw for Eureka bags IMHO, so I put a fresh F&G back in it and I just don't use it anymore. I restored it anyway so It's sits with the collection. Now that I did what I did to the below machine I should be able to have the bag zipper on this one too replaced soon.

5. Eureka "Brandywine" Series Model 2097A from 1980, which was teemed with frosted white color. I found this machine while visiting Jeff several years ago, while thrifting at the HUGE outdoor garage sale/flea market in Alsip Illinois. It's the first ESP 6.5 amp cleaner from Eureka, and as usual a two speed cleaner, and is similar in design and setup to the above, but without the "Touch Power" handgrip, becasue like Jeff has explained before was really NOT popular with buyers and therfore only lasted thru the previous season's cleaners which were the green series cleaners from 1978-79. I believe...hey Jeff fill this in. In any case, the bags on the Brandywine cleaners all were weak, and while the bag is in beautiful untorn or tattered condition...this bag TOO now has a broken zipper, and I have replaced the zipper after finding a tailor in town that was willing to tackle the job...after LOTS or cajoling...as he thought I was the strangest thing to ever walk pavement to ask him to fix it..a vacuum cleaner bag. But I use this machine in rotation with the next cleaner and my Premier Commercial, also a gift from Jeff.

6. My next one, and most current Eureka model in my home as of now, is the best Eureka upright vacuum cleaner I have ever owned in terms of what I consider cleanibility, versatility, rug appearance, filtration (for that time) and in general looks. Eureka Self-Propelled Two Speed ESP upright from about 1983-84 model 5071-D. It's like a Frigidaire Poppy Red color...not sure of what the actual color is, with frosted white accents, headlight, motor is a 6.7 amp design that was powered up for the self-propelled mechanism, uses the excellent Vibra-Groomer II, Rugulator, and their premo..IMHO Tietex material Triple Filter multicolor striped bag...and what I consider tho be the ultimate feature a 30 ft cord I believe...Im not going to measure it now as it's in the closet...but it's MUCH longer than the more normal 18 ft corded models. It also has a strong chrome handle that was replaced in later designs by a cheaper plastic handle. I bought this on the single premise that the Self-Propelled mechanism not only worked well,but wasin proper adjustment, and needed NO repairs whatsoever, and looked like it just taken out of the box and shoved to the far back recesses of a closet. On these machines the Self Propelled mechanism IMHO usually wears out before the machine does, and renders the machine unpushable...and has to be junked , or a donor machine has to be found for a transplant of the mechanism proper as all patts were discontinued LONG AGO.

8. I also have a Eureka Canister which is the mate to the Eureka "Touch Power" model above above. It's a Emperss II Roto-Matic Model 1288A In Queen Anne Gold and Frosted White. It's a Two Speed model with a six pushbutton suction control panel on the cansiter, a blower port, a 16 ft Cordaway cordreel and Eurekas excellently designed attachments with the additional two wands with the curved attachment elbow to use both the regualr Eureka carpet nozzle and the floor-wall brush. I replaced the original "Disturbulator" design brushroll witht he later Brandywine Series Vibra-Groomer I style brushroll used inthat and subsequent styles of Roto-Matic powerheads. I had to change the belt pulley on the brushroll mandrel to use the smaller "Disturbulator" circumfrence pulley as the one on the VGI was larger than the space would permit between it and the bottom plate of the head.

All in all I love Eureka's and love to see it when another is rescued from the landfill. I usually try and limit latly my cleaner's that I buy; and try to , unless it's in pefect shape otherwise stay away from the lower level stuff and try and find high end machines. The Eureka's of today as with Hoover or any manufacturer are a far cry from what they were making. I wouldn't drop a dime into a Eureka from today NOR would I for a Hoover.

If I had to buy a vacuum cleaner from today it qwould probably be a current Rainbow, or a Royal PowerCast...

Im done now...sorry

Chad
 
Thanks Chad and Jeff for your information!

Didn't Hoover produce Convertible models exclusively for KMart as well in the early 80's? I *thought* I saw a Convertible in someone's collection that they noted was a KMart model. It had a green color scheme.

I agree, Eureka and Hoover machines today are a far cry from what they were producing 20+ years ago. With Eureka, it started with the Bravo line, and Hoover started with the Elite line in my opinion. If I had to have a new machine, it would be a Royal (the old design).

--Austin
 
As a follow-up, the 630D's bag is in perfect shape, but the 664A's bag does have some tears near the base, and I remember the bag being torn on our old red Eureka. I always wondered why the Convertible bags held up so well!

Chad, you have some interesting models. LOVE the "Touch Power" machines and have been looking for one, though I haven't seen many on eBay recently. I wonder why that handgrip didn't last too long...IMHO it would be quite convenient. I didn't think Eureka designed their self-propulsion mechanism well, as the drivetrain looked way too small for the machine and used flat wheels as opposed to the Hoover DAM's thick rubber "tires". Glad to see yours is in perfect working order!

I'm going to be out of town for the next week and may not be able to get on here...I'll see what happens.

Again, great info!

--Austin
 
Follow up to Eureka...Book number 2...LOL

Austin,

I've seen a "Touch Power" w/ Cordaway and boxtop bag machine like mine, but a later version with the full "Continental" style hood form the green line that I was talking about from the 1978-79 years I believe, just after mine, and before it was dicontinued with the Brandywine series cleaners in 1980. The machine is in pefect working order, and the dude knows what he has, or is just innane and stupid for he is asking nearly $250.00 for it, and refuses to come down even a "touch". And at last look, which was over 6 months ago he still had it....as "FEW" people ever visit his overpriced landfill sale.

IMHO, the reason that the "Touch Power" handle diddn't last long was because while "mostly" convienent,was electrically more techinical than just a simple switch on the handle; or the foot controlled hood style switch like yours, an it was only offered on the TOL model and usually the one just below it. So consumers, in order to try this novelty, had to pay big bucks to get it....and therefore just wasn't popular with the buyers who felt that a machine like yours was good enough for their home, and promptly shoved the cleaner in the closet when done and abused it like many were.

The vacuums that were sold with this option were loaded, and were like the Lincoln Town Car Cartier Series of the Eureka line sold either to vacuum cleaner nuts/conisseurs like us at the time,or people who were very wealthy and had money to burn. And these people, when vacuuming with their $150.00++ purchase were dismayed to see that that when a momentary release of the handgrip occured...such as like manuevering around furniture/obstacles the cleaner would stop until you regained control of the grip. One other thing, "becasue" you had to squeeze the hand grip the whole time while vacuuming, that became tiring to most users that sought out the TOL cleaner to make vacuuming easier and the like, hence they never bought another.

Also on the Self Propelled part of the Eureka lines. For what the mechanism was it "was" compact and fairly sturdy given the parameters and package dimensions that it had to fit into, and did do a fairly good job out of that; and many "worked" that I had come in to be repaired for whatever reason...it's just that the forward/reverse cable and handgrip would fall out of adjustment and destroy the small felt/jute--forward/reverse clutches in the transmission. And yes I thought that the smooth wheels were a rather stupid idea,(unlike the cogged Hoover style) but the machine schleps itself back and forth across most carpeting without any duress. At least mine does.

Hoover's K-Mart association was as strong, or stronger than Eureka's association with the same company, and as Jeff stated quite correctly from above, produced mainly BOL and MOL models in various color schemes and options with our without toolkits and usually included some kind of bag belt deal inside the box.
Infact i believe that Hoover's first K-Mart cleaner was the U4001?

When my folks purchased our house in Grand Ledge we got a Eurkea 630D just like yours pictured from K-Mart as a third upper floor vac with our Kirby on the main level, and in the lower level we had our Hoover Convertible model U4003...and compared to our Kirby Tradtion and the Hoover; was the coolest vac I had used to that point....and had such a distinctive whine. When it was my day to vacuum I used the Eureka exclusively all over the house.

Today my mom uses a Fairfax "Faxomatic" and loves it more than any vacum she has ever had...becasue as noted long ago..she's hard on them and all machines I have ever given her have met an early retirement becasue of that, including all the machines above...but cant seem to kill this Fairfax. It has the Eureka built Rotomatic Powerhead and again I installed a Vibra Groomer II in the head and it fits perfect with NO modifications, and it does very well for her ranch style house she has today. Ironically she also has a beat up, yet fully functional Hoover model 70 that she uses for quick cleans...that I had originally purchased to rebuild my collection model 70, but then found a perfect one new almost out of box machine...so the parts donor became her second "upright" vacuum the better one became the parts machine, and the best one sits in the basement with my other machines described above.

Okay I'm done now...

Oh wait P.S. I am not able as of this time to post pictures, although I could under different circumstances becasue my system is screwed up and the photo program I have will not allow my system to properly upload them from the camera...they look garbled and pixilated..so after some time and work in the future I should be able to. I also have to use my brothers camera. I have to mess with that some to get it to work but it has before so I know it will do it again...

Thanks

Chad
 
Hoover and Eureka

Austin,
What I meant to say in last night's post(I was very tired when I put that up) is the 3 digit Eureka model numbers on those machines you have designate them as Kmart machines. Had they not been exclusive Kmart Machines the would have been 1400 series machines.
Like Chad, I have a touch power Eureka in the gold with a chrome hood, vintage 1972 or so. It won two blue ribbons at the VCCC convention in Chicago last year. I'll put a pic of it up later today. I have a few Eurekas, in fact my first new-out-of-the-box vacuum was a Eureka, a 1979 model 1458A.
Chad is also correct, Hoover's first Exclusive Kmart machine was the U4001 Convertible, about 1972.
 
Do you still have the.....

Jeff,

Now that Im thinking about it...do you still have the Monkey Wards Signature Eureka that I brought to you a few years ago. I think you told me once that you still do. I have been searching for a chrome hood that would work on my Touch Power like yours, but I never have...all of them are set up for the Dialanap style of carpet level control, not the Rugulator like ours have.

So Am I wrong then...does my machine hail from earlier...1972 area? I thought for sure it was from 1974.

I need to get my photoprogram up and running...should work on that now becasue I could get up some pictures of my cleaners. I have one of the Singer Golden Powermaster, and the Premier Commercial in my system already...but have posted them before.

Anyway...got to run...

Chad
 
some Eureka's in my collection

Chad,
The golden Eureka started in 1972 and ran til early 1975. If you remove the hood, the year it was made is in the base casting.
I still have the Signature, and it has a friend now.
Attached are pics of some of my Eurekas...
Jeff
 
Great collection Jeff

I had no idea there were such a wide variety of models. How about the motors I suppose they tweaked, mix'n'matched a few of those as well as other features to keep coming up with a "new" model too. Somewhere in the cobwebs of my mind I recollect the guy at a local vac repair shop who used to work exclusively for Hoover saying something about Hoover suing Eureka over self propell patent infrigements, could be mistaken though. Looking at my Hoover vs. the Lady K (Panasonic) drive wheels, both are treaded however the Lady K wheels are much larger diameter but thinner. In practical use it (Lady K) was the smoother operator back and forwards.
 
My childhood vac

The vac I remember is a BOL Eureka with the adjustment knob in the center. The body was white and the bottom part was green.

I remember seeing a setting for Shag carpet on the vac. YEAH BABY!
 
WOW, those are BEAUTIFUL Eurekas!!

The 1972 Touch Power with the Cordaway is the best one yet! The "Monkey Wards" machines are nice as well...who wouldn't love the "Box-Top" bag style?

It's amazing how that headlight-equipped hood design didn't really change much over the years. The Monkey Wards Dial-A-Nap bears a striking resemblance to the chrome Eureka. Mine has air vents in the hood but is otherwise unchanged as well.

What was the significance of the foot rocker switch versus the button switch on different Eureka models? There were two 1970's Eurekas on eBay, one a light blue (not quite turquoise), one gold. The gold machine had the rocker switch on the base, and the blue machine had the button switch, but they were otherwise the same model.

--Austin
 
Wow...is that the Contessa model...next to the one I gave yo

Well,

That Monkey Wards Eureka was my very first vintage find when I went to work for my first vacuum cleaner job in 1999. It was in a load of cleaners that we had bought for rebuilding purposes from the Local Rexair dealer. It was mixed in, but as I carried it to the cargovan to take back to the store...I knew right then and there that It would never see the sales floor.

I saw that thing come off the truck, the nex day and immidatly hid it and restored it after hours. And took it home to the collection. I couldnt believe what beautiful shape that it was in condsidering. I Believe that machine hails from 1975 accroding to the MW cat I have from that year's Fall and Winter Book.

Yes I would give a tooth to find a chrome hood like that. I finally was able to find paint that was a similar match to the hood, and touched up most of the scratches to my satisfaction. Now I need to get the zipper replaced and I'll be all set. Becasue as I mentioned it's fairly weak and needs it... it's not broken...but the teeth are disintegrating and need replaced.

Becasue it was done with the Brandywine cleaner..I know it can be done..it's just a touch pricey...

I see that you have a similar cleaner to the one that I have mentioned from my collection...the 260B, except again yours has a chrome hood. I love this model because it was one of the long running cleaners like the Hoover Convertible...from like 1949 to like 1997 or something.

What's that blue machine over in the far left corner...is that a full hood Kenmore from 1978-79? Or is it a Singer, or quite possibly a Lewyt upright which was again like the Kenmore Twin Fan a Singer in drag...

And Austin...the rocker switch was used by Eureka for it's lower line models...( that diddn't have them in the handle) to either slect low or high speeds, and on older F&G models and some MW built uprights on and off. I believe that it was sometime in the mid 1970's that Eureka dropped the rocker switch in the lower level cleaners for the simpler and cheaper pushbutton/stepbutton switch more commonly found.

I had a nice later Mid 1970's Eureka Blue cleaner...about 10 years ago that had the two speed rocker switch and headlight. Then later our Eureka like yours had the button....times changes everything.

Jeff, Also I see that you have one of the later Eureka Self-Propelled cleaners theblack and chrome one with the houndstooth vinly bag...from about 1990? I love mine which I know for sure is an earlier version prolly from the 1984-85 timeframe...and my aunt uses the blue version that I gave her from a tough earlier still...that has the lighted Eureka and Self Propelled that is backlit off the headlight. That machine is only a single speed tho.

Im done rambling vacuums now...

Chad
 
Design was never limited...especially in the 1970's..

As you can see by the pictures Jeff posted from above, vacuum cleaners as well as other appliances were not limited to just drab colors.

Bright colorful multi-toned hues were the norm,as was the case with modern architecture of the period. Chrome was used not so sparingly in some applications on cleaners, nor was it used sparingly in the homes, furniture or cars of the time either. Funky little woodtone appliques were stuck on machines abound just like we found in our homes, cars and furniture and finally the outer vinyl coverings for the inner paper filterbags were embossed with psycedelic desgins and floral patterns ; looking like current wallpaper or fabric selections of the day.

It was during this period that machines started to break the horsepower barriers using full horsepower motors and in some cases in canister applications: 2 full horsepower which a decade earlier was not only unthinkable...but thought to be sheer utter madness. This decade brought forth the first 12 amp cleaner as well with the Hoover Celebrity series cleaners, and The Eureka Empress I canister, and many others quite close to this mark.

It also brought forth the Self-Propelled concept to many manufacturers( Hoover was first in 1967 with the Dialamatic), many manufacturers after finding out that consumers wanted the convienences of an upright cleaner (better rug cleaning ability) in a canister type cleaner; stopped fiddling with less sucessful devices (Like Eureka's Vibra Beat) and Air driven powerbrushes, and brought out more useful ( and proven)electric Powerheads for their cleaners.

It was ironic that this diddnt happen sooner considering that Lewyt Kenmore/Whirlpool and Electrolux had powerheads by 1960.


Anyway yes cleaners from this decade were very predictive of what was to happen in the next decade...but were not at all sure of what would happen after that point...besides everyone using a 12 amp motor in everything.....such is progress

Chad
 
Eureka Motors and such

Eureka machines could be kinda grouped into a couple different styles.
The step on Rocker switch models were considered the "cheap" cleaners. All of their more deluxe models had the handle switch and were usually 2 speed.
They did have a distinct sound, that that motor design is what eventually became the Sanitaire motor.
In the early 1970's Eureka needed a cheap(er) cleaner than the rocker switch models, so the 1400 series was born, easily identifyable by the vents on TOP of the motor hood. The 1400's also featured the step on switch.
What made the 1400's so cheap was their motor, originally 3.5 amps like the big motor, but about 1/3 the weight AND size! The 1400 series motor was Eureka's electric broom motor, re-worked and installed in the upright. I remember the shock I felt the first time I saw a 1400's motor, WOW, so tiny! I think a hand mixer might have more motor to it! That motor is still made today, and used in the BOL Sanitaire cleaners. It sound is unmistakable!
Chad, the blue cleaner in the pic is a Sunbeam 2+2 with cord reel, made by Singer.
 
Austin:I don't have the Kirby list at my computer and I could never remember their model sequences-have all that at home.Yes 511 would be the one I was looking for.I am waiting for a nice one to show up.The Kirby dealers and other vac dealers here are helping and notify me if any old machines show up.One time the Kirby dealer here sold a new Kirby to a woman that had a 1938 model Kirby that had all of the attachments and was "like new" according to the Kirby saleswoamn. She said she tried everything to get the customer to trade it in.she kept it as her "upstairs" vacuum.I got an early "Fairfax" vacuum from the Rainbow dealer. Sometimes the oldies show up-also got a Rainbow "D" as a trade in toward a Tri-Star.If the machines got minor problems I can take care of it. The collector owned one would be best-but the $$$$.
 
Sunbeam/Singer/Kenmore twin fans

That el cheapo Singer twin fan upright I picked up a couple of months ago shows made by Ryobi USA on the serial tag inside. Did Ryobi make them all. BTW as awful as it is it pulls up flattened carpet pile better than any other vac I have
 
Singer Twin fans...

Pete,
The Singer Twin fan design goes way back to 1949 with the first dual suction "magic carpet" upright. These were Singer made, and were around in this 1949 design with a few changes until about 1963-64 when Singer changed the looks and came out with their U series upright. These were heavy, hearty machines, they cleaned well too. Problem was the motors were not very good, and the ductwork was small, the clogged very easy! The U series was around until the early 1980's, about which time the Singer sewing stores started to disappear...
The twin fans came back in the middle-late 1980's made by Ryobi. They were now mass marketed at places like Wal-Mart and such, but still the sme basic design as the U series, except now mostly all plastic.
In their heyday in the 1960's, Singer made those twin fan uprights for LOTS of people, among them: Kenmore, Sunbeam, Westinghouse, and in Canada for Lewyt.
 
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