Euro Washer and Dryers. Which Brand do you like?

[toggleswitch]

Mine is bigger than yours.

Brand snobbery.

Just so we are clear on this issue........

ANYONE in a SUV (of any brand) or a snobbish foreign car (BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Rolls-royce, Bentley) may not EVER break any traffic regualtions and/or pull any elitisim with me.

Example: No turn signal? You may not cut me off, or changes lanes into mine. On the cell-phone(mobile)which is illegal in this state without a hands-free headset? DOUBLE WHAMMY.
On the phone in a fancy car, in the left lane doing 30 mph when the speed linit is 75 mph? (60 km/h and 120 km/h)? I will come in front of you and slow down till you have to move to the right where you belong.

Viscious no. I just can't stand selfishness and self-centeredness. [But who is going to correct me? LOL]

Ditto appliances. No honey, your million dollar set of appliances does not impress me if you order take-out (take-away) and your wash is dirty.

One good house fire and you are wiped out, and your material possessions are gone. One good car crash and your looks and health are gone. Work on the inside. It does shine through.

OH MY, BITTER IN AISLE ONE. LOL
Thanks for letting me vent. TE HE HE HE HE

We now return to the theme of this thread and our regulary scheduled programme.....

 

[peterh770]

Ask and ye shall recieve . . . after having it shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miele-Novotroni...ryZ71256QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[launderess]

Word is something "big" is coming down the pike from Mile for the USA market. Neihter my Miele dealer nor anyone else will say what, but several rumors abound.

One is that Miele is going to introduce a 120v washer for the US market, the other is a larger capacity Miele unit which could be based upon their smallest commercial units.

Miele offered dual 120v/220v powered washers previously in the US, so it is not too far fetched to see them again. What is clear Miele units, while great will never command more than a niche in the United States market due to their perceived small size and special electrical requirements. Yes i KNOW one can fit quite allot of laundry in both the 5kg and 6kg units, but to many Americans perception on the selling floor is what closes the deal, and when compared to other "small" units like those sold by GE or the Electrolux machines, the Miele is small. Also KNOW that supposedly all homes have 220v connections in the laundry for dryers, but as many times as people say this , it is not true. There are many, many homes, apartments, condos, etc which do not have 220v power and persons looking for laundry appliances either cannot or will not go through with the required electrical work needed to use Miele laundry appliances.

Think with the decreased emphasis on "boil" washes, a 120v washer with at least a 1500 watt heater would be fine for most purposes. My Miele W770 is hooked up to 120v/20amp service (it is one of the early dual power units), and will heat tap cold water to 140F, quite quickly. Can achive faster heating or temps in excess of 160F to 200F by either using a hot or warm water fill, or resetting the mechanical timer back to the heating portion of the wash cycle for longer heating.

Saw the the Miele listed on eBay, if anyone is considering bididng, make sure the owner still has the shipping braces, as the unit cannot be moved without them. Am told many Miele installers take the braces away with them, and replacing them is very dear.

Launderess

 

[toggleswitch]

Often-times, those with gas dryers don't have a 220v connection, either.

Many builders include such an electircal connecion for an electric dryer, and charge you EXTRA for a gas hook-up. In this case you'd have both.

 

[peterh770]

I moved my Miele set one at a time, on their sides in my RAV4 with no ill effect. Shipping them across country might be another thing altogether. You milage may vary...

 

[panthera]

never move a Miele without the braces. ever

I sold and delivered a billion washers in the late '80's here in Germany. We always took care to install the braces the exact way the manufacturers specified - and to remove then correctly, too. These machines are radically different from US toploaders. German engineers assume that their customers will move the machines braced so put lots of easily breakable 'thingies' in the path of destruction when the machines are tipped off their normal plane.
At the very least you risk a shattered cement block in the machine...and that is no fun to replace.
If the idiot service in-duh-vi-du-als took the braces with them, you can almost always make do just as well with bolts and washers...assuming you can find metric threading...

 

[Designgeek]

Question I have is, does anyone make a front loader with mechanical controls now, or is it all computerized?

Also does anyone recall the topic header for the topic where someone spelled out how to hack the water level control in the Danby FL? I'm also thinking of a couple of other hacks I'd like to try on one of those.

Re. snobs: Sometimes they're difficult to figure out, but once you do, you can have some extra-special fun messing with them. For example....

"Sounds like you really have a taste for doing things in a big way. So, uh, how much debt are you carrying right now, aside from your mortgage?"

"Oh, well, about $65,000, the car is halfway paid off, the rest is credit cards, why do you ask?"

"Me, about $5,000, and the ol' Chevy has been paid off for a couple of years now. Eighty thousand miles and no major repairs. So, with all that debt, how do you manage to sleep at night?"

I'm with Toggle: be a good person, treat people with kindness, enjoy the stuff you have for its own sake, and value your family & friends (and your freedom!) above all.

 

[foraloysius]

Ahem Keven...

Miele's don't have cement blocks. Their counterweights are made of cast iron. In case you want to move a frontloader and you don't have the shipping bolts anymore and you can't find replacements either you pack the drum really full with blankets and towels until it's hard to close the door. It's not perfect, but it will at least help a little to prevent the drum from moving around.

 

[toggleswitch]

....and throw them against the wall and break their fingers off if they are mean.

*LOL*

I kept my nuts. And bolts. And shipping braces. Thank you very much.

 

[panthera]

Louis,

I was, as so often, unclear. Miele uses cast iron in their FL washers as inertial dampers (the things which kept going wrong on the Enterprise).
But they also use concrete in some of their dishwashers. And that is what I had in my mind - the mental picture of my poor old Miele Geschirrspüler lying at the bottom of the steps with the door counterweight snapped into little pieces.
AEG and BSH use concrete.
I seem to recall the beautiful Phillips top-loaders we both so admire having fairly light concrete blocks bolted to the top front of the outer tub? Right below those ridiculously small springs to the left and right.
Cast iron or concrete - if you don't anchor it, it will cause all sorts of havoc in the machine.
Louis, I bet most of the folks in the 'States wonder what on EARTH we are nattering on about. Simple, folks - Mieles clean so well cause the still "pound" the dirt out of the clothes. Louise maintains with big anvils of cast iron and me with big concrete blocks torn from the Wall.
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