Everyone meet Horsey->LG

[mrb627]

LE Error

I seem to recall a problem with the sensor and the LE Error. If my memory serves, the sensor would wiggle out of position and cause a random error. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

I sent my LG set on to a new home within a year of owning them. They just didn't feel built to last at all. The dryer had a rattle I could not eliminate. The washer began to squeak with general tumbling action. Drove me crazy. Don't miss it one bit.

Malcolm

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Kevin:Oh this is one of the more "interesting" repairs-> the tear-down is NOT straight forward.

Malcolm:

I sent my LG set on to a new home within a year of owning them. They just didn't feel built to last at all. The dryer had a rattle I could not eliminate. The washer began to squeak with general tumbling action. Drove me crazy. Don't miss it one bit.

You have something there!! I'll get to construction and materials soon enough! First I have to continue with the donkey-work of the tear down and what else was found->thus why I call this machine Horsey!

Amyswasher:
I collect, repair and resell machines in my spare time. Your question about whether or not I will sell or keep this machine I will answer later, after going through this more difficult repair. As to what I found i'm still very much shocked and appalled as to what I found on a machine that is no more than 5 years old. I'll reserve the rest of my opinion until later.

Parts have been ordered today. Lets just say, in order to do the repair right, the seal and bearings were not the only things ordered.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

The outer tub on this machine must be removed through the front. Parts on this machine are a little more delicate and the electrical connectors are snug and hard to remove. EXTREME CARE MOST BE TAKEN! To remove the drum-> it is best to reduce its weight by removing as much as possible before the outer tub is removed. After removing the outer tub, dis-assembly of the tub is required.

To remove the outer tub->remove the rear lower access panel->remove the top->remove the motor->remove the controls->remove the front->release the shocks->remove counter weights->disconnect hoses to outer tub->remove soap drawer-> disconnect and move wires->remove terminals to heater->remove tub by springs.

 

[whirlcool]

Interesting.
The Dual 701 turntable (1970) used the same hall effect coil system to move the platter. The result is a very stable speed.

 

[macboy91si]

I Can't Stop!

Melvin, this is great material. It's very interesting what you're finding in this relatively new LG machine. I know it takes a lot of time photographing and posting this stuff and I appreciate all the time. I also enjoyed the Neptune teardown, but I have to say that one looked very daunting not having even seen one apart like that. This one seems like it will be a bear to do, so I certainly look forward to seeing what's next. This is also the 1st of the Direct Drive setups I've seen and I have to say it's a bit more complicated than I thought it would be, but very interesting. We should chat again sometime.

-Tim

 

[DADoES]

 
Fisher & Paykel's SmartDrive motor is the same design and predates LG for market introduction by several years. They refer to the Hall Effect sensor as an RPS (Rotor Position Sensor). As I recall, F&P filed a joint lawsuit against LG for duplicating the design but I don't know what was the result. My GWL08 is 11 years old and never has needed any repairs.

The rotor pictured appears to have 12 magnets, but there are probably four in each group, total of 48 magnets.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Remove the top by taking out the bottom screw of this white plastic piece(for stacking?) There is another plastic piece on the other side of the machine as well. Grab the plastic pieces and pull the top toward you->lift up and remove the top.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Machine with the top removed->I've removed the cover to the PCB for a reason, which I will get to later.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Next, remove the motor->you can follow the steps above to do that. Time to get ready to remove the front. There are two hidden screws at the opening of the soap drawer. Pull the soap drawer out, there is a tab near the middle, towards the back of the drawer. Press the tab in and pull the soap drawer out.
Soap drawer--

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Tab

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Drawer out!

 

[supremewhirlpol]

There is a screw on each side.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Screw holes

 

[supremewhirlpol]

There are a series of tabs located at the top under side of the controls->release them gently.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

After the tabs have been released->pull the controls forward and down GENTLY.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

There are tabs on the underside of the control region, be careful of those.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Unplug and release the connectors from the ties. Guide the wires through the metal opening.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Remove the screws in the front.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

There is at least one screw on the top behind where the controls go on both sides of the front of the machine.

 

[supremewhirlpol]

Remove the back plane where the controls go. Open the door to the trap at the bottom of the front of the machine. Use a flat-blade screw driver to open push in the tab at the top of the door. Remove the door by pushing in the sides at the bottom of the door. Remove the screw under the trap. Release and push the hose next to the trap into the small opening. Pull the trap housing out.