Exploding Whirlpool Washer in MN.

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Looks to be a 1400RPM model. Is there a reason why all WP Duets sold are now only 1200RPM? The "Whistling" sound indicates to me that it was ramping up to its full final 1400RPM when this took place, it is possible an article shifted or it just went into spin unbalanced and somehow managed to reach 1400rpm possibly loosening the shocks, judging by the position of the tub, the front shocks let go.

Nonetheless, Its good to see Whirlpool stepping up and buying them a new washer and dryer no questions asked...unlike Samsung and LG.
 
Given that she didn't load it with something waterthight, and that she heared a high whisteling sound, this could verry well be a bearing issue.
Or, thinking about it, maybe its the balancing ring?

However with these stories I am always somewhat hesitant. Such dramatic failures are extremly uncommon for bearings.
 
I cringed when I saw this story.Thankfully WP did step up and do the right thing. I know there are those of us who hates Whirlpool for "destroying" other companies but I have had good service from all the products I have purchased from them over the years. I hope they correct their problems quickly.
 
but did Whirlpool respond because of the issue, and will start a recall?...

or did they step up because of KARE-TV 11 News?....

note they didn't respond to KARE-TV right away....as mentioned, they had issues trying to get a response from Whirlpool....

I think Whirlpool should have responded way before KARE-TV even called....
 
Exploding Top Loaders?

The above comment has aroused my curiosity: are there any recent episodes of top loading washers exploding? Not counting the top and front loading Samsungs...
 
It could have been a bearing failure that caused the tub shaft to fail spectacularly like when wheel bearings seize up and cause a wheel to leave a car or trailer because everything gets so hot the spindle sort of melts/breaks. If the tub shaft had broken, it would explain why the tub dropped back, wrecking the machine and blowing bearings all over. That could be a new euphemism for any number of disgusting bodily functions. I wish there had been a security camera filming this. That door boot sticking out looked like it had given birth several many times to oversized somethings.
 
Until a few years ago I'd never heard of washing machines that violently disintegrate during the spin cycle. Maybe it's part of the new eco-intuitive design. When the machine decides to terminate itself to make way for an updated, more eco-friendly replacement, it goes bananas and rips its own guts out.

Unless, someone is able to hack these machines from Russia or some such place and make them explode. Imagine millions of washing machines all exploding at once throughout the developed world. Spectacular!
 
I believe there were also two cases in Texas and another one in Arizona and at least one Maytag Maxima (Duet sibling) that exploded.

But I don't have enough details about them, just news like the above case.
 
Someone will die

We have been over this like at least 10 times by now...

There are literally millions of FLs out there.

There have been lets say 100 cases of them failing in that way.
In at least half of them there was enough doubt about loading, maintanance and other faults that were there beforehand which could have contributed towards such a failure that it was safe to say that it was not manufacturers fault.

In the rest, there was the verry reasonable possibility that it was manufacturing defect.

Before I am scared of dying by unplanned rapind disassembly of a washing machine I am scared of my car airbags or by salmonella.
 
Our vintage machines don’t explode.They usually shut off if improperly loaded. Our old front loaders were often bolted to the ground or were so heavy it didn’t matter. Facts are facts. I don’t know what German machines do. If they don’t explode, good for you. I’m done with this stupid argument. If you all want to carry on about it, fine. I don’t care!
 
Exploding FL's #'s

There have been a total of 5 WP Duets that have exploded. One of which was actually an older WP duet with the belt drive. 5 Maytag Maximas. 2 Samsung FL'ers which have also blown up, 1 LG and 2 GE's as well.

These were sourced from safer products, Youtube, an Amazon review and news feeds.

One GE explosion cited the spider blowing apart during its high RPM spin caused the machine to blow up.
 
Looks like manufacturers feel they crossed a line allowing these giant-capacity machines and their huge drums spin at 1400 rpm. I loved spinning huge loads of bath linens at 1400 in the Maytag 8100, but often wondered if the stress of spinning a BobLoad at that speed was putting an undue amount of stress on the suspension, etc.

My top-loading Speed Queen spins at a leisurely 720 rpm, but since the dryer reaches temperatures rivaling the surface of the sun, loads of towels dry surprisingly quickly, LOL.
 
Frigilux

Do you have any idea how hot these SQ dryers actually get? I'm sure my new one gets a lot hotter than my Kenmore I just replaced last month, and it certainly didn't seem lacking.

You're right, though--I was shocked by the heat of the 'normal' heat setting. And I don't miss the higher spin speed of my former front loader, either.
 
Forces during spinning

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

Just a random tool off of Google, perfect for such situations as it supports a lot different metrics.

Just FYI: We here have machines with 1600rpm at drum diameters of up to 50cm (radius 25cm thus) and max rated capacitys of 8kg that I can confirm.
LG offers machines spinning at 1600rpm with up to 12kg capacity. Can't confirm its drum diameter though.

So I don't think that it is much of an issue to make 1400rpm happen with some small structural changes.
 
Just pondering how many machines self-disassemble that aren't reported and don't make the evening news. There must be others, statistically, not a global catastrophe of course, maybe handfuls more? Without injury or property damage, it would have no "hook" for the news coverage and thus hardly worth a mention in the trivia section of a neighborhood chat board.

Those owners might not report them for various reasons and just replace the machines. Out of warranty, self-blame, etc. I had a friend with a Samsung that flew apart while the service tech was standing in front of it diagnosing a strange noise. It was replaced under extended warranty at just under three years old so it quite likely never made the Destruct-o-Matic stats at Samsung directly.
 
first of all.....you know the media HYPED up the hell out of what really happened....

look at the size of those ball bearings.....

I have changed my fair share of bearings, yet have not worked on a DUET, plus have just viewed a bunch of youtube vids for the Duets bearing replacement, those bearings didn't look any more larger than any other washer bearing....

does this model that apparently 'blew up' have super size bearings compared to any other machine?

I have seen machines break off from their suspension springs and struts, being able to bounce the whole mechanism and bust into the cabinet......

but in all seriousness, if the bearings broke apart, or the spider snapped, a great portion of the damage would have been to the outter drum, and by dropping out of place, the inner drum would have dragged quickly to a stop....

something doesn't quite add up....
 
Balancing ring

Martin, that is what led me to the almost certain conclusion that the balancing ring at the front of the tub failed. Maybe a foreign object burst it, or a ballbearing somehow got stuck in a deformed portion and then suddelny loosed up causing a rapid weight shift.
Further, the rear berings shattering would have to pierece a metal sheet or a plastic plate in either direction to even just escape the machine.

You should be familiar with some fluid or even movable weight based balancing system from your Neptunes.

There is a ring around the front and/or back of the drum on the outside, probably fairly sturdily bolted or clipped in.
That is basicly a hollow profile, filled weither a heavy fluid and/or ball bearings of various weights.
I think on some Neptunes the paddles were filled, but that was just weight and couldn't shift much during spinning.

The idea is that after distribution in preperation for the spin, the load in the drum itself behaves like a solid with a given distribution. No matter how high you crank the spin speed, the laundry will stay in the same place relative to the drum.
The fluid and round ball bearings however can still move inside the balance rings. They experience the same forces pressing them against the the walls of the balance rings as the laundry does towards the tub, but they can behave like a fluid and flow even under that pressure.

During the intial distribution, the movement an OOB load induces in the drum causes a force pattern that shifts the contents inside the balancing ring towards the opposite site of where the heavier parts of the load are.
That creats counterforces to the forces the load excerts.

During the extraction process, these play another role.
No load is even 100% even and simmilar, so different parts of the load extract differently. This can cause slight shiftes in weight in the load. These shifts are usually not high enough to even effect the possibility of reaching the maximum spin speed, but they might cause some more vibration at high spin speed swhich the consumer might find annoying.
Otherwise, the only way to completly compensate for these would be to distribute after each spin increment.
The balancingrings however can adapt on the fly, no matter how high the spin speed is. The distribution of the materials in them dynamicly shifts as the weight of the laundry shifts.

This also explains some of the weired behavious of some machines with such balancing rings.
If you let the machine run an empty spin, the drum might seem out of balance even though the drum is empty. This is due the balls in the rings now distributing randonly at first. As there is no force that would guide them into a correct position, they randomly distribute and thus create a possible balancing issue themselfes.
Also, some uses describe that when the machine prepares to spin or starts to ramp up, sometimes, the drum seems to shake violently at first but then quickly and suddely calms down a lot even though the washer just kept ramping up. That is the different weights in these balancing rings distributing and findig the right places to counter the bad load distribution.

One manufacturer here in the EU went to the extend to add a water tank to each baffle which is then filled with exactly the right amount of water during distribution to balance the load near perfection basicly every time.
As there is not one fixed weight used as counter-balancing, it much more accurate and flexible then balancing rings.
 
Those ball bearings are from the balance rings of this washer platform.

It’s a little unnerving because I have this washer in Maytag wear.
To which it has a slight vibration issue......
hope mines not in a fuse....
 
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