F&P DishDrawer - No Liquid Detergent?

[yogitunes]

there are many advantages to a DishDrawer.....

.I walways liked being able to wash two different loads at the same time.....pots and pans, glassware, plates and cups....

once you learn to adapt to loading and pre-rinsing.....they are very effective machines.....

I always thought if I redid the kitchen, I wanted one on each side of the sink....or at least in combination with a regular machine.....

single drawer units come in handy for a number of configurations....would have loved to have one of these when I had a wet bar....

 

[DADoES]

 
My DD603 cycle chart.  Initial Prewash vs. Rinse depends whether detergent is dosed in the prewash cup.

 

[whitetub]

After spending the morning doing dishes by hand, because the Double drawers won’t drain, I will call the service guy tomorrow for those Fisher & Paykel dishwashers. If it’s too costly to repair, I guess I will just get a real dishwasher and get rid of the Fisher Price plastic toys. Not impressed at all. I miss my old Bosch dishwasher today.

 

[yogitunes]

Whitetub....

its a simple drain line setup.....

mine would get plugged if someone loaded with out pre-rinsing a lot of the major stuff off....

and my drain line would get plugged......

first make sure the area under the big metal screen disc is cleaned out.....

and then remove the connections under the sink.....and hook up a wet/dry vac to clear each hose individually.....

that should solve your problem....

then run a rinse or two to flush out the rest....

 

[whitetub]

Thanks, I will try this week, as soon as I can get my plumber friend over. He’s good with that stuff

 

[DADoES]

 
Load thrown together somewhat hastily and not exactly a BobLoad®, but an example of how the spray can get around and through gaps between items.

 

[fisherpaykel]

Liquid or gel, Bobload Reg., Plastics hold down clips!

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: times&#92 new&#92 roman, times;">I have used gels with no problem, was gifted two jugs-if any leaks out before the wash phase it must be minimal, clean wash results. Tabs I will sometimes add to top shelf after first prerinse but recently I tried older Cascade Complete tabs and sufficient remained after two pre-rinses.  I didn't realize Bobload was now a registered trademark, got a laugh from that Dadoes and I like your light weight items improvised hold down clips! Recently my sister's 10 year old DD top drawer would not run, we identified probable wash motor problem and after convincing her kids to not call repairman before swapping out bottom drawer motor to top, they rarely use bottom, success! Gotta love F&P's top access tool free twist and lift out motor pump rotor design- 5 minutes or less. How much effort is needed to change a pump on conventional dishwashers? My 603 model is about 14 years old and still no repair replacement, I installed with undersink switch to avoid possible power surge problems as per their install brochure. As others mentioned the top drawer ergonomics just make sense.</span></span>

 

[gelaundry4ever]

I'm just fine...

I'm just fine with my Kenmore 13222 white dishwasher with stainless steel interior.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

dishwasher soap and rinse aid

I can use any dishwasher soap and rinse aid. The tab premixes just fine due to the spray action of the wash arms. I use cascade platinum along with its companion rinse aid.

 

[iej]

You have to pre rinse?!
Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a dishwasher?

I will scrape off big food reminents but if I have to pre rinse dishes, I might as well just wash them in the sink.

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>iej:  You have to pre rinse?!
Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a dishwasher?

I will scrape off big food reminents but if I have to pre rinse dishes, I might as well just wash them in the sink.</blockquote> You're referring to FisherPaykel's Reply #25? mentioning of prerinses?  He's talking about the dishwasher cycle running one or two prerinses before the main wash ... not hand-rinsing the dishware before loading.

 

[iej]

I was referring back to post #19.

I understood it as manual pre-rinsing. I have encountered a few people staying that they feel need to manually 'pre-rinse' dishes by hand before dishwashing in a machine and it always seems like an absolutely waste of time, effort and water. Most machines in my experience will quite happily wash dirty dishes.

Miele actually goes as far as suggesting that you absolutely should not do that as the detergent needs something to work on, rather than almost clean dishes - it can result in over-foaming etc if there's no dirt present.

 

[DADoES]

 
Ah.

I don't hand-rinse anything as you can see from the pics in Reply #24 and these.

 

[jerrod6]

No pre-wash

Seems like the newer model mentioned in this post does not do any pre-rinse or pre-wash before the main wash so there shouldn't be any problem of rinsing detergent away before the main wash when using a tab.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

i NEVER prerinse...

I never prerinse any of my dishes.