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inner workings and colorful loads

I'd like to see a full load of colors with a premium HE laundry detergent and fabric softener. I'd also would like to see the inner workings of this machine running. What is the model number of this machine?
 
Speed Queen is so clever. They achieve agitation by rotating the tub back in forth rapid enough such that the clothes are stationary with respect to the agitation so you get the same agitation effect of a stationary tub/moving agitator. It's turnover is slower. But it seems to be a great idea. Should be extremely reliable too.

Way to go. I may have to get one.
 
Give Speed Queen a chance!

I think we should give Speed Queen a chance. I know, I hate what the EPA/DOE has done, but at least Speed Queen had the the customers' wants and needs in mind. This might just as good, if not better than the old method of washing clothes despite the gentle splaching noise. If you think about it, the wash action is turbulent underwater. I'm not happy about what the EPA/DOE has done as moch as I want to rant, however.
 
It's like the Frigidaire Immersion care with an agitator, LOL. It will probably clean just fine, really.

I just don't understand why with that much water, they couldn't stick with a normal agitation? I was expecting it to use like a lot less water for all the redesign they did.
 
This could lead to Speed Queen's demise, and I'll laugh when people stop buying Speed Queen washers and dryers.
 
I was thinking...I wonder if the current FlexVane agitator would fit in this washer and how much more water and load movement would be created....it’s funny how something that was tried back in the 70’s by Frigidaire GM comes back in this incarnation. I am looking forward to see what CU has to say about this washer design.
 
new 2018 speed queen

Speed Queen must've really done their homework despite all the feedback from the environmentalists. They've decided to make their machines more tough, but more gentle and more energy efficient. Less parts to go wrong. I'd bet everything I own that these electronics that they use are built to tough military specs. Who can say that about their washers? Nobody can! I'd use Tide pods original laundry detergent, Downy April fresh liquid fabric softener, and Clorox bleach packs when washing whites. I'd use the heavy-duty cycle with the heaviest soil level at all times and leave the machine at auto fill. The only thing that changes is the temperature. I hope people will give these machines a chance. I know Maytag85 feels. As much as I hate the change, I'm willing to wait and give it a chance. Give Speed Queen a chance! They've been doing laundry for over a century - come a century and a decade!
 
GELaundry4ever

I would definitely do a variac overload on the 2018 Speed Queen washer!! I would make EOL videos and put them on YouTube like Shango066 does!!!
 
It sounds like it's in pain. Certainly is different.
I'm thinking fabric softener will not be too evenly distributed. Would hate to have to use dryer sheets!
Thanks Eugene for providing the show!
 
Too early to pass judgement

So I only did 3 loads so far, one empty, one with a few items, and this full load. I was impressed how well it was able to circulate the clothing. I’ll video a few more loads tomorrow, maybe a side by side comparison and an internal view.

Those towels were already washed before I put them in and the new queen managed to squeeze more dirt out of them. That was very impressive to me.

It’s going to be a busy week but I’ll try and post more thorough videos and ultimately my review.

So far though I like it, and I think it will do well.
 
Ehh

I am left feeling underwhelmed considering the following this has had for months. I do feel, however, that the "current" 2017 agitator would create a very aggressive and effective wash action. Lets just hope that can be swapped in. I almost feel like a slightly lower water level would have helped a bit as well, but I might be completely wrong.
 
Yes, first and foremost, many thanks Eugene for taking the time to make a complete-cycle video! It's obviously something we've all been chomping at the bit to see.

Now...who's going to take one for the team and purchase one of these so we can get extensive tests in all possible situations?

I want to see it take on a full capacity load using auto-fill and the Normal Eco cycle. That and probably the Delicate cycle.

Frankly, I think the biggest problem will be this: Many people loved Speed Queen because their top-loader was, for all intents and purposes, like a washer from the 1950s-70s. Will they continue to love SQ now that it is no longer reminiscent of that time period?
 
My pants would be on fire if I said anything other than my only attraction to SQ was the rugged old school machine that this new one is replacing. I love all the sounds a 210° arc machine makes (the old helical Maytags & BD Whirlpools too), and the feeling of something doing only what you tell it to, not a computer having to go through a "thinking process" and possibly trying to outsmart you.

So yeah, now that Alliance has joined everyone else in the world of machines that must "think" about what they're doing and do all sorts of turns and motions in order to operate I will certainly consider all options if I had to do it again soon. I will also rethink SQ as my go to recommendation to others as well. That F&P with the agitator is looking more appealing at this point.

I think in the end for me if I can't have my old school TLer, I'll just go with a nice FLer. Never been a fan of any kind of HE TLer or TLer without a transmission.
FLer's are without a doubt superior to transmission-less top loaders IMO.
 
Compared to my new 432,

I think this would satisfy me equally well. I haven't rigged the lid as I get no sexual thrill from watching the agitator.

I really liked the design shown in the videos by Rivas, saved those to a hard drive. I like the simplicity, even though I'm not a washer repairman. I like simple durability.

How many on here piss and moan because their vehicles have electronics driving them now? How many on here have replaced their fuel injection systems with carburetors? How many on here remember exactly how much fun those carburetors were to deal with, in the 1970's with tightening emission standards?

I just got rid of my Frigidaire Affinity FL two months ago while it was still running because no repairman could figure out how to make it consistently run through its whole cycles without stopping 50% of the time before the final rinse and spin. And yes, it had every damn circuit board replaced more than once.

Like dishwashers, electronics seem almost a contradiction in terms when one views the heat and wet environment in which they must live. However, weird nostalgia doesn't butter the toast. The issue these days seems to be, again, how much electronic construction is necessary, as opposed to toys for the younger generation.

I still question whether my beloved 1977 Filter-Flo set in avocado didn't wash as well as this new SQ 432 that I bought in October; I don't think so, it certainly got my whites white and cleaned beautifully all the clothing from a very outdoor/camping/athletic lifestyle. I don't think this new SQ dryer does a whit better than that GE BOL dryer, either. I'd love to have them back, single speed and all. But then, I'd love to have my 1951 Lincoln back that I drove in high school; I'd love to have my 1959 Isetta that I also owned then. I'd love to have the 1965 Olds 98 convertible that I owned in college, or the 1972 Buick GS convertible, or certainly the 1965 VW Beetle in white with red interior that I bought in the mid 70's with only 30K miles on it (sister totaled it in Austin on an icy street when I loaned it to her).

What still disappoints me about this site is that so many people on here are so damned pessimistic. Frankly, I avoid people who are downers in my daily life 'cause they have no real basis for it. Study after study has shown that in situations where there are good and bad outcomes, that the good outcome generally occurs around 55% of the time. So why the whining?

These people at Alliance, according to the Rivas videos, spent 3 years designing this machine. I believe they didn't design it to not wash as well. I believe they wouldn't be introducing it if it didn't, and certainly not with a 7-year warranty. They could've just kept the old machine, ditched the mech timer setup, and modified what was left to accommodate the new standards. I see no evidence that anything was done to make it cheaper to produce or less durable--which appears the case with most of its competitors.

So again--why the long face? Just 'cause it isn't the one that June Cleaver used?
 
I don't like when electronics don't do exactly what I tell them to when I tell them to. I'm actually quite a tech person but a firm believer in the KISS principle. I like my car that is all computer controlled, it does what I want it to when I tell it to. OTOH I didn't like my mothers Passat with the throttle program that was always trying to outsmart me like a crafty German would (in the name of fuel economy???), but even a crafty German engineer can't outsmart this bitch.

When the redesigned for 2015 models came out I actually jumped right in and got the electronic model, I think I was the first on AW with an AWNE model. I have zero regrets choosing the electronic model.

I can already see from the video most of what I love about my SQ is now gone in the newer model. Not to say that it won't be a good machine but the things I liked about them are just gone now. Which would leave me looking everywhere again, if I were in the market anytime soon.
 
Yeah, I'll pass.  This thing is pathetic.  The first thought that came to mind as I eyed the colored towels was the Bob and Ray routine, "Slow Talkers of America."  I scrolled down while the clip was running, and as I read through the replies, I'd go back up and check on the action.   The same two microfiber towels were lazing around on the top every time I checked.   This isn't a washer, it's a soaker.

 

I am not a dyed in the wool old-school or no-school washer aficionado.  My daily driver is a 2008 Affinity FL.  I'm open to new concepts, but this one strikes me as an epic fail.  And that moaning and groaning would drive me nuts, although it would sound great turned up loud in a Halloween haunted house scene.  This machine does give neutral drain fans something to cheer about, but the notoriously stingy spray rinse remains. 

 

Can you say "No sale?"  I knew you could.

 

Oh yeah, and that pump is waaay louder than the Chinese one I just installed on the Affinity. 
 
Your Money,

your choice. It would do a fine job on my laundry and I'd really like to have that 7-year warranty. But then, I don't have a house full of oil field workers or little kids...
 
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