Appreciate your time and energy involved in making these videos. Although I will NEVER go back to a top loader, I like to see what's out there that I'm not missing.
Finally the full wash video of the new 2018 Speed Queen washer
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My Thoughts On The New SQ TL Washer
First of all thanks Eugene for all the time you put into recording and posting the videos on these washers.
As I already posted and predicted this machine will not turn over and wash large loads clean, no surprise here.
However some customers will like this new washer and it will solve a lot of the problems we see as a major servicer of SQ laundry appliances, the good points
It will be gentler on clothing,
It will be more reliable,
It is quieter in operation,
It has much better water extraction,
It will have less linting complaints and less walking problems than the current machine,
It should be easier to repair.
As I predicted before SQ will lose around 25% of their TL washer sales in the coming years, possibility more.
This new machine will cause me as a servicer additional problems because there will be dissatisfied customers , but I lived through the 70s working for a Maytag home appliance store and we had LOTS of customers that were dissatisfied with their new MT AWsa nd we had to do a lot of reselling and teaching people how to try and get clean clothes out of their new MT when they had been washing clothing for years in their old Kenmore or just about any other brand washer and had never had any problems.
When we get one of these washers in the store we will post the results of a SXS cleaning test between this new machine and a few other popular washers.
John L.
First of all thanks Eugene for all the time you put into recording and posting the videos on these washers.
As I already posted and predicted this machine will not turn over and wash large loads clean, no surprise here.
However some customers will like this new washer and it will solve a lot of the problems we see as a major servicer of SQ laundry appliances, the good points
It will be gentler on clothing,
It will be more reliable,
It is quieter in operation,
It has much better water extraction,
It will have less linting complaints and less walking problems than the current machine,
It should be easier to repair.
As I predicted before SQ will lose around 25% of their TL washer sales in the coming years, possibility more.
This new machine will cause me as a servicer additional problems because there will be dissatisfied customers , but I lived through the 70s working for a Maytag home appliance store and we had LOTS of customers that were dissatisfied with their new MT AWsa nd we had to do a lot of reselling and teaching people how to try and get clean clothes out of their new MT when they had been washing clothing for years in their old Kenmore or just about any other brand washer and had never had any problems.
When we get one of these washers in the store we will post the results of a SXS cleaning test between this new machine and a few other popular washers.
John L.
@ Stricklybojack: I agree. Consumer reports and reviewed made a mockery of Speed Queen, but I think people looked the other way because its not that bad. But now that these machines have an agi tub, its almost like they saw into the future. No longer will these reviews be off or biased, sadly.
Also, it does not matter if SQ used an impeller, agitator or even a nuetator, the issue is that these washers lack a mod shifter. Something as simple as a floating tub would have helped- but no. If Agi tubs were really that great, then GE would have used them when their hydro-waves washers came out. That would have lowered cost and eliminated a few failure points- but they didn't. In fact I am willing to bet that every manufacturer has considered an agitub at some point- but was quickly scrapped early in experimental R&D. How SQ let this get so far is beyond me.
Also, it does not matter if SQ used an impeller, agitator or even a nuetator, the issue is that these washers lack a mod shifter. Something as simple as a floating tub would have helped- but no. If Agi tubs were really that great, then GE would have used them when their hydro-waves washers came out. That would have lowered cost and eliminated a few failure points- but they didn't. In fact I am willing to bet that every manufacturer has considered an agitub at some point- but was quickly scrapped early in experimental R&D. How SQ let this get so far is beyond me.
Very dissatisfied!
I am very dissatisfied! I was gonna have high hopes for this washer platform. No more! No way laundry detergent and fabric softener will be evenly distributed through the clothes!
I'd stick with a GE laundry pair with laundry detergent and fabric softener tanks. Speed Queen... no more!!!!
I am very dissatisfied! I was gonna have high hopes for this washer platform. No more! No way laundry detergent and fabric softener will be evenly distributed through the clothes!
I'd stick with a GE laundry pair with laundry detergent and fabric softener tanks. Speed Queen... no more!!!!
duttyb11
Member
Strange to me...
They say resluts prove it cleans better than the old one....but how is that possible? The agitator is terrible the bottom fins are a joke. Who would in their right mind approve of this? WHO? If the tub spun faster with longer rotations and instantly reversed directions with a better agitator then maybe MAYBE it would have been semi decent. This damn thing is a joke. I predict Alliance will stop making washers for home use soon. This will be a disaster for them. Some ppl like everyone else said will buy it not knowing the difference, just like some people think buying a Fiat or Chrystler is a good idea. People are fools and they will sell some of these, but I sure as hell won't buy one. God what a dissapointment life is at times. I had high hopes. Those hopes were shit on real fast.
They say resluts prove it cleans better than the old one....but how is that possible? The agitator is terrible the bottom fins are a joke. Who would in their right mind approve of this? WHO? If the tub spun faster with longer rotations and instantly reversed directions with a better agitator then maybe MAYBE it would have been semi decent. This damn thing is a joke. I predict Alliance will stop making washers for home use soon. This will be a disaster for them. Some ppl like everyone else said will buy it not knowing the difference, just like some people think buying a Fiat or Chrystler is a good idea. People are fools and they will sell some of these, but I sure as hell won't buy one. God what a dissapointment life is at times. I had high hopes. Those hopes were shit on real fast.
stchuck
Well-known member
Goodbye to SQ
How many of you have now set their sites on the new commercial Maytag? If it had a water level adjustment I would have already bought it. I keep watching the videos and am constantly impressed.
How many of you have now set their sites on the new commercial Maytag? If it had a water level adjustment I would have already bought it. I keep watching the videos and am constantly impressed.
I am going to keep my current SQ alive for as long as it is economically viable. Unless SQ continue to bring out top loaders with their standard transmission -
i.e. not agitub, I will probably go for Fisher and Paykel.
To address the reply #259 - after 30 years of owning and using SQ top loaders I am relatively experienced with their washers.
They are gentle enough on clothes - only marginally less so than front loaders.
My first SQ lasted 20 years and this one has been running for 10 and without issues. So, I'd say are already pretty reliable.
My current one is noisy in comparison to other washers, but I have a dedicated laundry room in the basement. I shut the door to contain the noise.
Water extraction is fine. Most full loads take an hour to dry on gentle heat in matching SQ dryer.
I don't have linting issues and on the occasion that there is a little bit of lint, it will come off in the dryer or I use my Scotch-Brite roller. Anyway, if there is excessive lint it's my fault.
My SQs have 'NEVER'walked and they usually spin without fail. The number of times that I have had an unbalanced load in 30 years I can count on one hand.
If I were a product engineer at SQ I'd be embarrassed to put my name to their new top loaders. This is nothing short of self-sabotage.
i.e. not agitub, I will probably go for Fisher and Paykel.
To address the reply #259 - after 30 years of owning and using SQ top loaders I am relatively experienced with their washers.
They are gentle enough on clothes - only marginally less so than front loaders.
My first SQ lasted 20 years and this one has been running for 10 and without issues. So, I'd say are already pretty reliable.
My current one is noisy in comparison to other washers, but I have a dedicated laundry room in the basement. I shut the door to contain the noise.
Water extraction is fine. Most full loads take an hour to dry on gentle heat in matching SQ dryer.
I don't have linting issues and on the occasion that there is a little bit of lint, it will come off in the dryer or I use my Scotch-Brite roller. Anyway, if there is excessive lint it's my fault.
My SQs have 'NEVER'walked and they usually spin without fail. The number of times that I have had an unbalanced load in 30 years I can count on one hand.
If I were a product engineer at SQ I'd be embarrassed to put my name to their new top loaders. This is nothing short of self-sabotage.
mrb627
Well-known member
Commercial Maytag?
Nope.
Malcolm
Nope.
Malcolm
mrb627
Well-known member
Specialty Cycles Explained
I wonder if wash performance would be greatly improved using one of these choices...
Malcolm
I wonder if wash performance would be greatly improved using one of these choices...
Malcolm
duttyb11
Member
I believe....
IF this machine turns out to be the flop I see it as being, Speed queen will simply stop making washing machines for home use. I predict that they will just stick to commerical washer/extractors. What a shame this is, I remember being a child of the late 80's early to mid 90's and my aunt had a maytag she still has to this very day, and this machine reminds me so much of that maytag (2017 model) I love that washer so much. This sucks so bad guys. It seems like our washer options are shittier and shittier in the US. Why can't we have washers that heat the water to the appropriate temperature, oh yeah, because of the shitty DOE. I'm convinced that Europe, although smaller than US machines have the best washers.
IF this machine turns out to be the flop I see it as being, Speed queen will simply stop making washing machines for home use. I predict that they will just stick to commerical washer/extractors. What a shame this is, I remember being a child of the late 80's early to mid 90's and my aunt had a maytag she still has to this very day, and this machine reminds me so much of that maytag (2017 model) I love that washer so much. This sucks so bad guys. It seems like our washer options are shittier and shittier in the US. Why can't we have washers that heat the water to the appropriate temperature, oh yeah, because of the shitty DOE. I'm convinced that Europe, although smaller than US machines have the best washers.
European front loads
Are simply the best front load washer in terms of clean-ability and versatility.
I said it before and I will say it again, if SQ had a FL washers with a heater in 2013 I would have probably gotten that over the SQ TL. A FL without a heater is useless IMO.
Are simply the best front load washer in terms of clean-ability and versatility.
I said it before and I will say it again, if SQ had a FL washers with a heater in 2013 I would have probably gotten that over the SQ TL. A FL without a heater is useless IMO.
Malcolm-- Thanks for the chart explaining the special cycles on the new SQ top-loader. It would probably be to the company's benefit to give cycles like 'Super Soiled' a higher profile.
Wish my SQ had the Heavy Duty Eco and Delicate Eco cycles. I fill the washer with true warm or hot water, then switch to the Normal Eco cycle for nearly every load that doesn't contain liquid chlorine bleach. Saved a few hundred gallons of soft water last month. Frankly, I find the spray rinse does an adequate job. Have had no problems with detergent sensitivity or irritation even in our super-dry winter air.
I use the trick you mentioned in another thread about skipping ahead to the next portion of a cycle by pressing the Whites and Perm Press buttons simultaneously regularly, as well. It comes in handy when I want slow agitation for partial loads of things like dress shirts. I start the Bulky cycle, set a kitchen timer for the amount of wash time needed, then return to the washer, select Normal Eco, then jump it ahead to the spin/rinse sequence.
Wish my SQ had the Heavy Duty Eco and Delicate Eco cycles. I fill the washer with true warm or hot water, then switch to the Normal Eco cycle for nearly every load that doesn't contain liquid chlorine bleach. Saved a few hundred gallons of soft water last month. Frankly, I find the spray rinse does an adequate job. Have had no problems with detergent sensitivity or irritation even in our super-dry winter air.
I use the trick you mentioned in another thread about skipping ahead to the next portion of a cycle by pressing the Whites and Perm Press buttons simultaneously regularly, as well. It comes in handy when I want slow agitation for partial loads of things like dress shirts. I start the Bulky cycle, set a kitchen timer for the amount of wash time needed, then return to the washer, select Normal Eco, then jump it ahead to the spin/rinse sequence.
Eugene, you give new meaning to the term push button washing.
mrb627
Well-known member
Easter Egg
I like how the machine will pause after the presoak/prewash and sound a tone for the user to add detergent for the main wash bath. Proceeding automatically after two minutes. Cool feature!
Malcolm
I like how the machine will pause after the presoak/prewash and sound a tone for the user to add detergent for the main wash bath. Proceeding automatically after two minutes. Cool feature!
Malcolm
Bob-- I'm definitely giving the SQ's electronic controls a workout, but it's kind of fun to play with, LOL. Have to admit I miss the 2015 Maytag front-loading set, which had everything a person could ask for in a laundry pair, but am having more fun with the SQ than I'd expected.
Malcolm-- The "add detergent" alert after the prewash or soak reminds me of my mid-'90s stacked Gibson-branded front-loader. It did that immediately after the fill for the final rinse so you could add fabric softener. An actual detergent dispenser would be ideal, but this is Speed Queen, so that would be looked upon as a frill. I have yet to use the soak or prewash options. Loads of heavily stained kitchen whites (plus personal whites) get a hot fill and a few minutes of agitation. Then I shut the machine down for about 45 minutes for a soak. After that, I add Clorox, fire up the Whites cycle plus a 2nd rinse and away we go. I've found this process to be the most effective for removing stains.
Malcolm-- The "add detergent" alert after the prewash or soak reminds me of my mid-'90s stacked Gibson-branded front-loader. It did that immediately after the fill for the final rinse so you could add fabric softener. An actual detergent dispenser would be ideal, but this is Speed Queen, so that would be looked upon as a frill. I have yet to use the soak or prewash options. Loads of heavily stained kitchen whites (plus personal whites) get a hot fill and a few minutes of agitation. Then I shut the machine down for about 45 minutes for a soak. After that, I add Clorox, fire up the Whites cycle plus a 2nd rinse and away we go. I've found this process to be the most effective for removing stains.
Eugene,
It seems you have figured out how to succeed with your top load washer. You are the master chef of top-load laundry.
paul
It seems you have figured out how to succeed with your top load washer. You are the master chef of top-load laundry.
paul
llmaytag
Well-known member
Amana
This is very discouraging. I'm not sure how much this machine was, but it seems to operate very much like my $269 sale Amana top load which I bought for a weekend home. I finally figured out on the Amana that I can select "bulky sheets and blankets" and deep wash+extra rinse and it will actually fill completely for the wash, with NO autosensing does intermittent full 360 turns of the agitator as it feels, even before any base level of water has been injected! Anyway, on these setting I can get a full-fill wash, and actually two deep rinses, but unfortunately a slower spin and slightly less vigorous agitation.
This is very discouraging. I'm not sure how much this machine was, but it seems to operate very much like my $269 sale Amana top load which I bought for a weekend home. I finally figured out on the Amana that I can select "bulky sheets and blankets" and deep wash+extra rinse and it will actually fill completely for the wash, with NO autosensing does intermittent full 360 turns of the agitator as it feels, even before any base level of water has been injected! Anyway, on these setting I can get a full-fill wash, and actually two deep rinses, but unfortunately a slower spin and slightly less vigorous agitation.
A Better washing AdjTub!
From looking at more vintage videos on youtube I encountered this European model and at least it has better washing action for a AdjTub!
Hey speed queen why didn't you do some research?
From looking at more vintage videos on youtube I encountered this European model and at least it has better washing action for a AdjTub!
Hey speed queen why didn't you do some research?
Best agi tub
Well, maybe not exactly an agi tub...
Well, maybe not exactly an agi tub...
