filterflo58
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Would anyone here buy a fisher-paykel?
if so why? or why not?
if so why? or why not?
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arrrooohhh
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30% market share.
It's the number one selling washer in Australia and New Zealand!
It's the number one selling washer in Australia and New Zealand!
laundryshark
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The Sounds of a Fisher & Paykel Washer
Not sure if I would jump this quickly onto the F&P bandwagon, but had a roommate who bought an F&P laundry pair for his house several years ago. The sounds of that washer were fascinating, but it was weird how it would fill, wash, and then a series of rinses with an increase in the spin speeds till it spun dried the fastest for the final cycle. Below is the company Web site that is Australian based, but international in scope.--Laundry Shark
http://usa.fisherpaykel.com/
Not sure if I would jump this quickly onto the F&P bandwagon, but had a roommate who bought an F&P laundry pair for his house several years ago. The sounds of that washer were fascinating, but it was weird how it would fill, wash, and then a series of rinses with an increase in the spin speeds till it spun dried the fastest for the final cycle. Below is the company Web site that is Australian based, but international in scope.--Laundry Shark
http://usa.fisherpaykel.com/
I've bought Fisher & Paykel. Three times.
July 1999, a GWL08 and matching DE04.
August 2003, a DD603.
October 2004, an IWL12 and DEGX1, as an "upgrade" to the GWL08 and DE04.
Never any trouble with any of them.
The GWL08 and DE04 went to my grandmother. They were soaked in 12" to 14" of water during a freak flood in November 2004 for ~12 hours, came out none the worse for wear.
The DD603 came along when I moved to a new house in January 2005.
I find the technology/engineering to be fascinating. Fun and interesting to watch the washers run their auto water level sensing routine. The IWL12 (Intuitive series) also has automatic fabric sensing to determine an appropriate agitation speed for a given load, which adds another dimension of intrigue. Reverse-tumble on the SmartLoad dryers does help reduce balling-up/tangling, and I love the 24-hr wrinkle guard.
I imagine everyone here is tired of hearing about my F&Ps, so e-mail me if you want more details or have specific questions!
July 1999, a GWL08 and matching DE04.
August 2003, a DD603.
October 2004, an IWL12 and DEGX1, as an "upgrade" to the GWL08 and DE04.
Never any trouble with any of them.
The GWL08 and DE04 went to my grandmother. They were soaked in 12" to 14" of water during a freak flood in November 2004 for ~12 hours, came out none the worse for wear.
The DD603 came along when I moved to a new house in January 2005.
I find the technology/engineering to be fascinating. Fun and interesting to watch the washers run their auto water level sensing routine. The IWL12 (Intuitive series) also has automatic fabric sensing to determine an appropriate agitation speed for a given load, which adds another dimension of intrigue. Reverse-tumble on the SmartLoad dryers does help reduce balling-up/tangling, and I love the 24-hr wrinkle guard.
I imagine everyone here is tired of hearing about my F&Ps, so e-mail me if you want more details or have specific questions!
mixguy
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I have used my cousin's F&P washer when I have house sat for them while on vacation. Intersting how they work and not sounding like a typical automatic made here in the US. Are you pleased by their washing ablity and stain removal? Do they conserve water like they claim? Does their faster spin speed reduce drying time significantly? Their top load dryers seem interesting but have not used one.
laundromat
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I like the design except that the dryers are too small to accomadate a load as large as the washers hold.The dryer capacity needs to be twice the cu.ft of the washer i.e if the washer is 3.8 cu. ft.,then the dryer needs to be at least 7.6cu.ft.If not,the clothes not only take longer to dryh but they have a tendancy to wrinkle too.
Consumer Reports likes Fisher-Paykel a lot; It's the highest rated top-loading washer with a conventional agitator. They rank water usage as 'Good'. Most front-loaders rank 'Very Good' in that category, so there isn't a huge difference. Gentleness and noise are rated Very Good. Energy usage is rated as Excellent (no doubt due to the F-P's 1000 rpm. final spin speed, which matches that of many front-loaders).
CR's data shows F-P machines a little more prone to repair as compared to Whirlpool and GE; around 15% of their washers have needed repair as compared to about 10% for Whirlpool/GE/Frigidaire top-loaders. Again, not a major difference. Glenn has mentioned he's never had a problem with any of his F-P washers.
CR's data shows F-P machines a little more prone to repair as compared to Whirlpool and GE; around 15% of their washers have needed repair as compared to about 10% for Whirlpool/GE/Frigidaire top-loaders. Again, not a major difference. Glenn has mentioned he's never had a problem with any of his F-P washers.
My DE04 is larger than the current 08/09 models which are 6.0 (and have a flat backside). My DEIX1 is 6.2 cu ft and I've not had any trouble drying full loads.
As with any TL, water usage depends on load size. F&P TLs have a lower low level (1/4 of the tub) than most other TLs which typically fill about half even on low. The default rinse method on the GWL models is a shower rinse which runs a series of saturation sprays and spins. The volume of water used can be adjusted within a range, and a traditional deep rinse option is also available.
On my IWL12, use of the Creasables option (equivalent to Perm Press) increases water usage considerably. The machine literally wants the clothes to float loosely in the wash water so it raises the water level one level higher than would otherwise be needed, and adds a 2nd "cool down" deep rinse. Interesting to watch the process. It runs standard water level sensing, then fabric sensing, then fills to the next higher level (except it can't go higher if it's already at the highest level) and runs fabric sensing a 2nd time.
On my IWL12, use of the Creasables option (equivalent to Perm Press) increases water usage considerably. The machine literally wants the clothes to float loosely in the wash water so it raises the water level one level higher than would otherwise be needed, and adds a 2nd "cool down" deep rinse. Interesting to watch the process. It runs standard water level sensing, then fabric sensing, then fills to the next higher level (except it can't go higher if it's already at the highest level) and runs fabric sensing a 2nd time.
Earlier this evening I was at Zellers (walmart like store) and they had two F&P washers. One was the Intuitive $829 with the auto fill and auto cycle selector, looked to be a model up from the other one.. Is that a good price? Would equal about $722 USD or $877 Aus.
lightedcontrols
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a friend that sells them....
....has BUNCHES that have been returned. He has dropped the laundry line and is just selling the Ovens for now. Mark Lightedcontrols
....has BUNCHES that have been returned. He has dropped the laundry line and is just selling the Ovens for now. Mark Lightedcontrols
They are popular over here
And the price is about what you've seen Pete.
The Australian ones have had a problem with failing computer boards. As far as I understand, they use a solid state method to rectify the power from AC-DC and from 240 to 12V. This appears to be very prone to failure and the new part is around $400AUD (Reconditioned $140). Most stores in Australia will sell you a plug in surge protector at the time of purchase. This mayn't be a problem in the US due to the lower voltage and therefore a potentially different design.
Most of the ones I see out on the curb are 5-10 years old, so they do last as long as the average machine these days. The either fail quickly (Under warranty) due to dirty power, or they last the 5-10 years. I recently picked up an almost new one from the curb that needed a new divertor valve. The part was only $40AUD and it took 5 minutes to fit. These machines are very easy to work on if something goes wrong.
I've been testing the one I collected recently, and my only comment is the noise. Our Laundry opens off the Kitchen and ones hears everything. The F&P makes lots of high pitched squeaks/motor noises during operation. For Michael and myself they are pretty annoying and intrusive. The Miele we have can be loud, but at a much lower frequency which is tolerable. The Belt drive whirlpool we had before was all about really low frequency noises, so even though it was loud, it wasnt intrusive. You mightnt find the pitch annoying, but they do make lots of different noises compared to a traditional top loader.
Just another opinion.
Nathan
And the price is about what you've seen Pete.
The Australian ones have had a problem with failing computer boards. As far as I understand, they use a solid state method to rectify the power from AC-DC and from 240 to 12V. This appears to be very prone to failure and the new part is around $400AUD (Reconditioned $140). Most stores in Australia will sell you a plug in surge protector at the time of purchase. This mayn't be a problem in the US due to the lower voltage and therefore a potentially different design.
Most of the ones I see out on the curb are 5-10 years old, so they do last as long as the average machine these days. The either fail quickly (Under warranty) due to dirty power, or they last the 5-10 years. I recently picked up an almost new one from the curb that needed a new divertor valve. The part was only $40AUD and it took 5 minutes to fit. These machines are very easy to work on if something goes wrong.
I've been testing the one I collected recently, and my only comment is the noise. Our Laundry opens off the Kitchen and ones hears everything. The F&P makes lots of high pitched squeaks/motor noises during operation. For Michael and myself they are pretty annoying and intrusive. The Miele we have can be loud, but at a much lower frequency which is tolerable. The Belt drive whirlpool we had before was all about really low frequency noises, so even though it was loud, it wasnt intrusive. You mightnt find the pitch annoying, but they do make lots of different noises compared to a traditional top loader.
Just another opinion.
Nathan
My GWL08 is much less with the squeeaky/grindy/stepper-motor sounds. I noticed the difference immediately when I got the IWL12. I've heard mention that the newer models are more "out-there" with the noises due to changes in how the motor is controlled, supposedly for better servo feedback. The sounds don't bother me. It's a mechanical device, it's supposed to make noises! Closing the utility room door effectively muffles it except during full-speed spin.
