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I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt in the car and anytime I'm seated while flying.

I know a couple that just flat refuse to wear seatbelts in the car (maybe in a plane too?). While they may read this article if sent to them, I doubt it would change there thoughts about wearing seatbelts because they are so stubborn about it.
 
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I worked as an emt for years and people don't realize is if you have airbags in the car or truck you need to wear your seatbelts. You have no idea what people look like after an accident and they didn't have their seatbelts. They say well I have airbags so I don't need to wear my seatbelt. HA! I have had to remove lenses from sunglasses and regular glasses from under their eyelids. They will rip the skin right off from your face and chest if no shirt on. I have visited people in the hospital after accidents when bringing in other patients and what a mess. This one woman who I removed her glasses from her eyes and the frame from mounting into her forehead. She was black and blue from her face down to her stomach. Not a little but completly black and blue. It has always been my policy to wear them even before airbags. When you are moving at 30-80 mph and you hit something stationery something has to give. Same if you are sitting still and someone hits you going at the rate of speed. I feel a little guilty when I go to the corner store without it on. I feel like a kid driving without a license. Sorry didn't mean to gross anyone out here, BUT everybody should wear them.
Jon
 
I always and I mean ALWAYS wear my seat belt

I was in a crash five years ago when a drunk hit me head on. The force of the crash fractured my sternum where the seat belt restrained me before I hit the air-bag. This is in a car with force limiters on the shoulder harness.

I can only imagine what it would have been like if I had not been restrained.

I added a picture that many have seen before. The other guy was in a Ford F-150 extended cab.

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I always use my seat belt..

My late cousin who died in an accident with out a seat belt at the age of 23.

Him and his parent and brother were stubborn for using seat beat, after his death, my aunt and uncle now use seat belt, but to this day, his brother still refuse to use it.
 
but to this day, his brother still refuse to use it.

More fool him!

...and that makes me SOOOOO ANGRY!

Mayguy, I know these people are your relatives, and I can only imagine the pain they have gone through losing a son/brother/cousin who may be with us IF he had worn belt. But if it is one thing that governments can't do, is legislate against stupidity. Though they can try!

I'm normally very mild mannered (though I don't look like Clark Kent - damn it) when it comes to most topics, but this one has really struck a chord with me.

If it isn't legislation to wear a seat belt in EVERY State of the US, it should be.

I gather that it is illegal to commit suicide? I know it is illegal to commit manslaughter. Not wearing a seatbelt is akin to manslaughter (unintentional death) though you could argue that given the proven statistics on how wearing a belt saves lives, not wearing one and surviving an accident is almost attempted suicide (intentional taking of your own life) as you have intentionally put your own life in danger.

People should be dragged kicking and screaming into 1980's 'rest of the western world' - by their wallets if need be.

I'm not interested, in this instance, hearing 'It is my democratic right to choose!' or 'It isn't illegal, so I don't wear it.'

It shouldn't even be an option to not wear it (medical etc excluded) and every person caught not wearing one should not only have to pay a very hefty fine, but should also sit through a very graphic film of what can happen and meet some of the people that have been scarred for life by losing friends/family or who themselves are crippled through their own stupidity.

Then there is the human cost of it and the monetary cost to the community. There has been a recent study here that has caused the 'cost equation' for every road fatality to be revisited. It used to be around AUD$1.5million. This has just changed to AUD$6million. A 400% increase to the community.

From an Australian perspective.

In EVERY State and Territory of Australia it is ILLEGAL for every occupant not to wear a seat belt. There are some exemptions, such as medical reasons (say a mastectomy but you have to have the exemption with you) or a delivery/garbage vehicle doing less than 25klm.

The driver is responsible for ensuring that all occupants under 16 are wearing a seat belt and that no additional passengers are carried anywhere else in the vehicle (tray back, load area). You may only carry the same number of people in the car that there are seatbelts for. If you are over 16, you wear the fine with the driver copping it for under 16yr olds who are not belted up not to mention the lecture that the police officer will give you in the process of writing the ticket.

Right, I'm going to take a deep breath now and get a coffee. Sorry if I have offended anyone. Not my intention, but if it makes you wear a seat belt then it was worth it.

"Click Clack, Front and Back"
 
In Massachusetts, it's a secondary law. That means that the cops can't stop you for not wearing a seat belt, but if they stop you for something else and you're not wearing it, they can issue a citation. The exception is school bus drivers. It's a primary law for us, and we can be stopped and cited for not wearing one.

Personally, it's rare that I don't have mine on at any time, even for the 3/4 mile drive downtown!

Chuck
 
I think part of the problem is the way airbags have been portrayed in the media in US. You ask in countries out of US and a lot (if not most) people know that airbags, while being instrumental in saving people's lives, are secondary restraints and use explosive charges to operate -- the majority of people that I know out of US knows that airbags can be dangerous.

And yet, the majority of people I know here, I had to educate about the issue. Just look at every single footage of airbags operating that is shown in America. It's always the super-slow motion, it takes several seconds for the airbag to inflate, then the crash test dummy hits it, then it falls back in the seat, the airbag deflates and it's over 20-30 seconds of footage and *no* sound, which is totally incomprehensible to people like me that knows that a crash is a fraction of a second. I've seen the real movies from the crash tests, with the real sound turned on.

Finally, a friend's sister, driving her expensive luxury car, with the seat belt fastened and everything, had a very low speed crash (both cars were going at something like 15-20 miles per hour on the parking lot of a mall) during which she rear-ended the car in front of her because of something, I forgot if it was a wild animal running in front of the car or something. Anyway, not much damage to the cars, her face was all abraded, and she said, and I quote:

"...and the airbag never deployed, there was this loud bang, and powder everywhere and the plastic bags were just hanging from the steering wheel and the passenger-side, I dunno!"

And we had to explain to her that no, in fact the airbags *had* deployed, and, while her face was hurt, it was better than having her fact through the windshield or the steering wheel. I know because I had friends in those accidents with cars that had no airbags.

After that, my friends started wearing their seatbelts more often, but it wasn't until the small kids started dying because they were seating on the front passenger seat, that most of them started wearing their seatbelts.

The thing to remember is that airbags are just like ejection seats: they are operated by explosive devices, they are dangerous and they save lives, but they are to be used as a last resort -- you would definitely prefer mild injuries to your face/body to smashing your face/body in the steering wheel, dashboard or windshield, but the airbags are deployed in excess of 200 MPH and deflate nearly instantly and you do not want to meet it without the help of a seatbelt. You also do not want to be smoking a pipe (or at all, really) when it deploys. And, according to the account of at least one friend or two, you want, if possible, to refrain from reaching towards the dashboard or putting the arms in front of your face when you realize you are about to crash -- keep your arms near the legs to avoid breaking them or being punched in the face.
 
And the surface of an airbag is the same as a burlap sack of potatoes. As noted above it will give you a 4 skin layer deep facial. Also if you ride with your dog in the car, make sure it is in the back seat as an airbag impact can kill them.

The same goes for emergency slides on airplanes. They are textured the same way. You see these people flying in short shorts and flip flops. If they have to evacuate using the slides, they won't have any skin left on the back of their legs and their heels. They'll just be laying on the tarmac screaming in pain while the passengers behind them pile on top of them, unless they are lucky enough to have somebody drag them out of the way.

And yes, it is the law in all states here in the US to wear your seatbelt. It also prevents you from "submarining" under the dashboard.

A few years ago I had to drive a woman somewhere who refused to wear her seatbelt because "it'll wrinkle my dress". I told her I'd rather see her with a wrinkled dress than a wrinkled face, put the damn seat belt on lady!
 
Here in Canada, in most provinces I believe, it is against the law not to wear a seat belt. This has been in place for at least 20 years. I don't remember ever NOT having to wear a seat belt and I am 50 yrs old now. I get in the car and don't even think about buckling up - it is just an automatic thing to do. The fine is pretty steep for not wearing a seat belt, I think between $100-200. The police regularly have seat belt blitzes where they park themselves on on-ramps to the highways and check every car that passes by.

Gary
 
Here in Canada, in most provinces I believe, it is against the law not to wear a seat belt. This has been in place for at least 20 years. I don't remember ever NOT having to wear a seat belt and I am 50 yrs old now. I get in the car and don't even think about buckling up - it is just an automatic thing to do. The fine is pretty steep for not wearing a seat belt, I think between $100-200. The police regularly have seat belt blitzes where they park themselves on on-ramps to the highways and check every car that passes by.

Gary
 
On a similiar safety note, cars manufactured for use in Canada also require daytime running lights ie. the headlights turn on automatically when you start the car (on a lower intensity) and cannot be turned off. At first everyone thought it was crazy, bulbs would burn out quicker, etc. but actually it does make it a lot easier to spot a car and the bulbs do not burn out any quicker. This law too has been in place for about 20 years.

Gary
 
We have had manditory seat belt laws in Kansas since 1986, however, it is a secondary offense. The officer can not stop you just for not wearing a seat belt.

Child restraints are another story, you can be stopped, and actually have your children taken from you by SRS for not having them properly restrained (usually this is happens if you don't have a child restraint, or they find another offense at the time of the stop such as a DUI). If you have a restraint and you buckle them in at the time of the stop, and you don't have another offense it will cost you $140.

I agree with Lee Iaococca. Your state drivers license should say "Not valid unless wearing a seat belt" Driving is a previlidge not a right. Mandating seat belt usage does not infringe on a right if you are operating under privilidge.
 
A few years ago I was reading my auto insurance policy and found that the snuck a new one in there. If you have an accident while not wearing a seatbelt, they will not cover any personal injuries to anyone in the car.

Here in Texas, they CAN and WILL stop you for not wearing a seatbelt as well as the front seat passenger not wearing a seat belt. They recently updated the law to include rear seat passengers too.
 
I always wear a seat belt, even when I am going from the post office to my aunts, which is a distance of about 500 feet.

In Pennsylvania wearing a seatbelt was a secondary law, but I believe they can now pull you over for not wearing a seatbelt, but meanwhile what dosent make sense to me is that a seatbelt is mandatory, but they removed the law of wearing a helmet on a motorcycle, so it is optional now.

Unfortunately though a seat belt dosent always save you, one of my grandfathers cousins in the mid 1980's had just got a new Chrysler Fifth Avenue because they felt being a big car it was safer. He was hit one morning coming home from breakfast by drunk 19 yr old in a little honda. Bob was wearing his seatbelt but he was hit so hard(I do believe from the side) he was still thrown out of the side of the car and splattered on the road.
 
My saying is

"Once you've tasted air-bag, you don't want to do it again."
But I was sure glad they were there. You will notice that the entire front of my Jeep is gone, but the windshield is not cracked.
 
Iheartmaytag

I have the same opinion. Airbags are awful, I had abrasions and burns on arms, left ear and face, a broken nose, a terrible headache and many days hearing a buzz inside my ears.

But if i have to suffer another crash in my life, I hope the airbags work again. Today I can be here with my poor but understandable english writing these words to my friends and colleagues thanks to the safety belt and airbags that saved my life more than once.

The most interesting about a crash are those 2 seconds that last for years or centuries. I don't know if science can explain it. It looked like everything, including the time has stopped and my whole life passed in front of my eyes and then a strong explosion flash came from inside the S.wheel and the top area of the column between the door and the windshield.

I could feel myself diving in the bag and my head being held by the side bag, but it was so fast that i couldn't see them inflated. According to my perception, everything happened in very slow motion, like one of those crash test videos and between the deflated bags i saw fragments of glass flying slowly like that famous "The Matrix" scene..

Thanks to that explosive technology I left my car walking and all the witness amazed with the damages. Considering the damages on my car one would say I would never survive a crash like that and the worst damage was only a broken nose.

If I find the pictures I took that day, I'll scan them and post here.

By the way, the impact was so severe that the safety belt that was relatively new before the crash looked like a very old mop after it.
 
Thomas

I know exactally what you are talking about the slow motion. I remember the things that were going on, and it felt like it was minutes, when actually it took less that a milisecond.

I remember saying to myself "the air bag deployed" and I felt like I was glued to the bag. Then all the sudden I was bounced back into the seat and somewhere along there my glasses flew off. I was just stunned, I could hear people talking to me but I couldn't respond. I would look at them but my brain just wouldn't work. I remember thinking I had better shut off the ignition in case the fuel line is broken there isn't a fire. Luckily when I did that the car unlocked the doors and that is what allowed them to get inside to me from the passanger side of the car.

THEN I WAS P'd. The stupid car would have been paid for on Feb. 15th, the drunk hit me on Jan 31. Took me five years to pay for the next one, and then--then. The hail storm last week totaled it. I kept it dents and all, it still drives ok.
 
And if you all read the original aviation report, please notice that from just a few seconds of turbulence people ended up with broken ribs and broken verabrae in their backs.

I know there are people out there who like to play games with the F/A's and hide the end of their seat belts so the F/A thinks they are buckled, but it is only for your safety. Remember, these are the same F/A's that will help you get off the plane despite your cuts, bruises, and broken bones.

I can't tell you how many times I have encountered unexpected turbulence in the air. Just because it hasn't happened to you in the past doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.
 
I once won a car in a charity raffle. I was allowed to drive it off the ramp, and out of instinct I fastened the seat/shoulder belt as soon as I got in. The announcer made some sort of wisecrack about it. Still have the car. Never had an accident in it (knock on the faux wood dash). I also feel something is missing if I don't fasten the seat belt. It also helps keep me in my seat when driving a mountain road at the limit.
 
The Hard Way

was how my OM had to learn the lesson! Always with the "I don't need seat belts, never have" attitude. With his vision failing and his refusal to give up driving, he made a left turn in front of an "unseen" vehicle that hit him head-on at full speed. Airbags deployed and he was knocked almost senseless. For days afterwards he was disoriented: Trying to put his pajama tops on his legs, using the Electrolux tank vacuum to suck up ants (that weren't there), stuff like that. Of course Mr. Know-it-all wouldn't seek medical help. He did finally straighten-out after several weeks.

When we at last went to the demo lot to get his personal effects out of the wreck, I was amazed he survived. To Ford's credit (he drove a 1991 Merc Sable), it was impressive to see that the passenger cage was still intact although the rest of the car was demolished. I guess there is some truth to the advances in engineering over the years.

Plenty of blood on that deflated air bag, though. He wears his belt now...

The state did lift his license following the accident investigation.
 
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