Found Vestel washer / dishwasher in NJ - Need Help!

[appliancelou]

I hit the mother load by accident found a Vestel washer and dishwasher. Need help both have same voltage usage plug. Both are 230 volt units Washer made in Italy ,
dishwasher made in France. I have a 220 volt line. Can I or how can I connect the washer to line even though its stated 230 volts? Do I need a adaptor or what?
Desperate cannot wait to use and play with them. Any information will be appreciated.
Lou

 

[appliancelou]

Vestel washer

washer

 

[appliancelou]

Vestel washer

control

 

[appliancelou]

Vestel washer

another control

 

[appliancelou]

Dishwasher!

Dishwasher

 

[appliancelou]

Dishwasher

control

 

[appliancelou]

Dishwasher

interior

 

[appliancelou]

Dishwasher

Racks

 

[aegokocarat]

Washer is a rebadged sangorgio
the dishwasher is a rebadged brandt
and i would suggest an adaptor but if a connection is poor it wiil cause a fire

 

[appliancelou]

power

Thanks for answer - but can it be hooked up to 220 volt saftly without damage to machine even though it says 230 volt? I am in the dark over here.

 

[joe_in_philly]

I think you may need more than an adapter. I would guess it is for 50 Hz power, while we have 60 Hz power in the US.

http://goeurope.about.com/cs/electricity/l/bl_electricity.htm

 

[rolls_rapide]

Europe was 220 volts, the UK was 240 volts.

There was a nominal "alignment" of voltage to 230 volts.

In reality though, the voltage in the UK at least, stays at around 240, but can approach 250 volts. (This was the scenario that sparked the Bosch UK dishwasher recall).

The problem with the Vestel machines might be the frequency of Alternating Current: 50Hz as opposed to 60Hz.

What does the ratings plate say?

 

[appliancelou]

voltage

Thanks both machines are 50Hz
Is a stepup transformer what I would need that goes up to 3000 walts
washer states from 1900 to 2150 W - we think that means watts
Lou

 

[ronhic]

1900 to 2150 W

...is definately 'Watts'......

 

[toggleswitch]

No adapter or transformer will fix the "cycles" (HERTZ) issue.

On 60hz (here in the USA) the machines' 50hz motors and timers will be 20% faster. I am not sure if this is a fire-hazard or not per se.

HOWEVER here, our 220v is a split-phase double-hot system. In places with 220 (line to ground/neutral) it is not. Generally for safety BOTH SIDES A 220v CIRCUIT (HERE) must be protected by a fuse and BOTH sides must be switched for safety.

If you do decide to use those appliances here

1- never leave them unattended.
2- never leave them plugged-in when not in use.

Other than a motor-generator set to provide the "proper" 220v 50hz/Hertz current I don't know how to advise you.

I have heard of a 220v Miele vacuum cleaner used here on our current, but in all fairness there is no additional load to such a motor (except when the bag is full) and it is probably very well air-cooled, and densest run for 2 hours continuously!

If you are DYING to try them, get a Euro power-strip (of adequate amperage) or extension cord, cut off the male end (LOL) and add a USA 220v plug that fits your (female)receptacle.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

The rest of the world will laugh, but we are not used to 220v power here and generally need to fear and respect it for the dangers involved.

The joy of 110-120 volts is if you do anything stupid or careless you get to live to do it again.

P.S. so yes the difference between 220 to 240 volts can be considered generally "in name only" and is, for the most part, meaningless.

Perhaps we should convert the whole world to 220v 60 hertz and be done with it!

 

[appliancelou]

voltage

Thanks Toggles for the information.

 

[peterh770]

They sure looks Danbyesque to me...

 

[tolivac]

Just to say something here about 120V-ITS DEADLY!!! Don't take it for granted.More people are killed from 120V in the US than other voltages.When people deal with the higher voltages they are normally more careful.Those that get killed take the attitude-"Its only 120V it won't hurt me"that can get you killed.Please, you appliance collectors and experimentors out there-treat 120V with the respect it deserves-it CAN KILL you.Wether its 120V,208V,240V,480V,or whatever BE CAREFUL!Stay alive!ANY powerline voltage is dangerous.for the 50Hz issue-besides the higher speeds in motors-Convertors to change US 60Hz power to 50Hz power are available-but VERY expensive.In a shop where I worked at they had a convertor device that changed 120-220V to 220V,400V 50Hz,60Hz or even 400Hz.Never used it but they had it.It could handle up to a 1000w load.

 

[docker]

Frequency

These machines should work on 220V (p-p), but as Toggleswitch stated, the timers use synchronous motors where the speed is determined by the frequency & therefore cycles will be completed sooner. South Africa also aligned the voltages to those of Europe in the early 80's, going from 220 - 230v (p-n) & 380 - 400v (p-p). Sockets went from 15A - 16A. If you cut the plug off, the colours will be: green/yellow: earth, Brown: live & Neutral: Blue. The plug shown above is known as a Shuko plug; ie Shutz Kontakt or sheltered contact. There is no chance of touching the pins when inserting or removing it. All sockets in Europe are unswitched.