We just bought a new Frigidaire Affinity 6700 front load washer, and it doesn't clean very well I'm afraid. How much water should this thing use? During wash and rinse cycles there is no discernable water level in the tub. I would have thought that the water should come up to the bottom of the window or something. Some water does run off the clothes as they tumble, but not very much. Is there something wrong with this thing?
Frigidaire Affinity 6700 Water Level
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There´s nothing wrong with your washer.
Water level is really low, so you can open the hatch (technic definition of "door") during the program.
Don´t worry about it. This washer selects the water level according to the amount of clothes and program.
The drum arms has a complex recirculation system that ensures a good water flow even when washing bulky items.
Don´t forget to use only HE detergents.
There´s an option to upgrade the spin speed to 2000 rpm. (only for 7000 and 8000 models)
As time goes by, you´ll see it´s a great washer.
By the way, why didn´t you buy models 7000 or 8000? they are much better and the price is the same!!
Water level is really low, so you can open the hatch (technic definition of "door") during the program.
Don´t worry about it. This washer selects the water level according to the amount of clothes and program.
The drum arms has a complex recirculation system that ensures a good water flow even when washing bulky items.
Don´t forget to use only HE detergents.
There´s an option to upgrade the spin speed to 2000 rpm. (only for 7000 and 8000 models)
As time goes by, you´ll see it´s a great washer.
By the way, why didn´t you buy models 7000 or 8000? they are much better and the price is the same!!
If his clothes are coming out dirty then something IS wrong with his washer.
bbsoda, see if you can increase the water level, use the hottest water possible for your clothes, and use a bit more detergent (with a non-chlorine bleach booster). And if your clothes still are dirty, dump the unit. We went through this same nonsense with FL's (also had mold problems) and eventually went back to a Speed Queen TL.
bbsoda, see if you can increase the water level, use the hottest water possible for your clothes, and use a bit more detergent (with a non-chlorine bleach booster). And if your clothes still are dirty, dump the unit. We went through this same nonsense with FL's (also had mold problems) and eventually went back to a Speed Queen TL.
mold problems?
Please be more specific.
Please be more specific.
What would you like to know? We had the same constant mold odor problem that thousands of other people had with FL washers:
http://www.dld123.com/q&a/index.php?cid=443
http://www.dld123.com/q&a/index.php?cid=443
askomiele
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Boil it out! Wash as hot as possible with bleach and longest cycle possible! Leave the door open! And SPREAD THE WORD!
mold is not a problem "with affinity", but with all front loader washers.
there´s a simple way to avoid it.
let the door (hatch) open so air can circulate.
I have front loader washers sinde mid 80´s and never had any problem with mold.
I also remove the detergent dispenser by the end of the wash day and let it air for 24 hours.
there´s a simple way to avoid it.
let the door (hatch) open so air can circulate.
I have front loader washers sinde mid 80´s and never had any problem with mold.
I also remove the detergent dispenser by the end of the wash day and let it air for 24 hours.
laundromat
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Anybody who has any clue on how to take good care of any front loading washer,washer dryer combination or dishwasher like myself who has had enough different brands of them on and off for over twenty yeas will tell everybody to LEAVE THE DOOR AJAR WHEN FINISHED USING THESE MACHINES!!One of the original front loading brands,WESTINGHOUSE Laundromat,had what they called "laundrofile"which in the use and care section it directly says to leave the door ajar overnight or untill next washday to "keep it fresh and new"Evey model I have had has stayed clean and the door seal"boot"has stayed flexible and no mold or mildew has ever formed.Neither my cats nor ferrit ever even tried to climb into the open washer.Those models I shared with room mates are a different story.They'd use either the wrong detergent or too much of the H.E.,overload it,underload it,or close the door by slamming it shut.One girl slammed it so much,the door latch broke and it wouldn't latch.I'd allways say leave the door open once they're finished doing laundry just like I'd tell them not to rinse anything off before putting it in the dishwasher neither of which were ever followed.People just have no frigging clue nor do they care especialy if it doesn't belong to them.But truly,mold forms because of the humidity that lingers inside front loaders and dishwashers.
I have the same problem!!
My affinity doesn't clean the clothes... I think, the project is horrible because I test all the brazilian soaps and a French HE Skip tablets, but they failed!
And now my washer have a trouble on spin cycle with lil' load!
I have no more expectations for this washer cause the Electrolux service on my city is terrible!
My affinity doesn't clean the clothes... I think, the project is horrible because I test all the brazilian soaps and a French HE Skip tablets, but they failed!
And now my washer have a trouble on spin cycle with lil' load!
I have no more expectations for this washer cause the Electrolux service on my city is terrible!
Well, I didn't mean to get people shouting, and before comments get too nasty just forget I mentioned it, ok? It's not related to bbsoda's issue.
But for the record we did leave the door open on our FLs and they still developed mold. Rant all you want, that was our experience, and judging from other people the problem is pretty common.
But for the record we did leave the door open on our FLs and they still developed mold. Rant all you want, that was our experience, and judging from other people the problem is pretty common.
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Stoichiometric
Waxy fabric softeners bring mold and residue build-up.
Loading up your clothes with it makes them "Waterproof" and future washing results will suffer.
My front-loading Frigidaire uses very little water, but my clothing is clean and my machine is mold-free.
Important also is to use about 1/5 to 1/4 of the amount of detergent used in a top-loader. Amount of detergent should be proportional to amount of water, not amount of fabrics/clothing.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stoichiometric
Waxy fabric softeners bring mold and residue build-up.
Loading up your clothes with it makes them "Waterproof" and future washing results will suffer.
My front-loading Frigidaire uses very little water, but my clothing is clean and my machine is mold-free.
Important also is to use about 1/5 to 1/4 of the amount of detergent used in a top-loader. Amount of detergent should be proportional to amount of water, not amount of fabrics/clothing.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stoichiometric
And we also must remember ALL detergent manufacturers always instructs to use more than the necessary for excellent results, so they can sell more products.
I always used Skip Intelligent from Argentina and now i also use the new Ariel Ecomax from Brazil.
Both instructions are 1 full scoop for a full machine.
If I follow the instructions the results will be good, but not excellent so i decided to try 1/4 of scoop and the result for very dirty whites is more than perfect. (considering a standard top loader washer)
With my Electrolux´s Ecoturbo (aka Frigidaire Affinity 7000) I have excellent results using only 2 table spoons.
So, before increasing the dose, reduce it! Your results would be greater!
Most people suffers for some weeks after purchasing a new washer or changing the detergent brand. You just got to discover it´s tricks.
I always used Skip Intelligent from Argentina and now i also use the new Ariel Ecomax from Brazil.
Both instructions are 1 full scoop for a full machine.
If I follow the instructions the results will be good, but not excellent so i decided to try 1/4 of scoop and the result for very dirty whites is more than perfect. (considering a standard top loader washer)
With my Electrolux´s Ecoturbo (aka Frigidaire Affinity 7000) I have excellent results using only 2 table spoons.
So, before increasing the dose, reduce it! Your results would be greater!
Most people suffers for some weeks after purchasing a new washer or changing the detergent brand. You just got to discover it´s tricks.
golittlesport
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I've used front loading machines by Electrolux for over 8 years with excellent results (better than modern agitator washers) and no mold problems.
I've read that the discontinued Maytag Neptunes seemed to have a mold problem, but I have not heard that complaint from anyone I know personally that owns a front loader. I'm not sure why some folks report that problem with their machines and others don't. Is it operator error? Something in the water? The detergent or softner they choose? Hmmm...
I would be sure to follow the machine manufacturer's instructions for use and care. I think most Americans tend to use more detergent than needed and probably overdose on softener too.
If your clothes are not getting clean I would call for service and have them check the machine out. From my experience, front loaders get clothes very clean using very little water.
Good luck!
I've read that the discontinued Maytag Neptunes seemed to have a mold problem, but I have not heard that complaint from anyone I know personally that owns a front loader. I'm not sure why some folks report that problem with their machines and others don't. Is it operator error? Something in the water? The detergent or softner they choose? Hmmm...
I would be sure to follow the machine manufacturer's instructions for use and care. I think most Americans tend to use more detergent than needed and probably overdose on softener too.
If your clothes are not getting clean I would call for service and have them check the machine out. From my experience, front loaders get clothes very clean using very little water.
Good luck!
Last night I washed very dirty coloured shirts, pants and sheets in my Electrolux Ecoturbo (Frigidaire Affinity 7000),
Heavy, cold water, all options selected, 1/2 dose of Ariel Ecomax = Perfect results in exactly 1 hour and 3 minutes.
Heavy, cold water, all options selected, 1/2 dose of Ariel Ecomax = Perfect results in exactly 1 hour and 3 minutes.
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Hi Jeff. I am from the 1950's when front load washers had water coming 1/4 to 1/3 of the way up the window. But with today's mania to save water (please see my thread "leave our washers alone), while people are filling their pools, watering their lawns, taking long showers, etc, everyone I talk to is in favor of low water level front loaders.
I have a friend in Palm Springs, Ca where I used to live. I was back there for New Years. He wears his white socks around the house like slippers so they were very soiled. He washed them in his new Frigidaire Affinity in hot water and bleach.
I watched the machine in horror as I did NOT see any water in the tub. All I saw was wet clothes sloshing around.
The socks did NOT come out clean. A front loader with a decent amount of water still uses less than a top loader. Why is the water level left up to the computer instead of us?
And also, front loaders cost more than many top loaders. I got a Maytag/Whirltag less than a year ago for $399.00 and it washes like a champ. I was just in Best Buy where they featured an LG set by the front door at $1,999.00 EACH!!!...add on taxes and delivery and it costs $4,500.00. I do not understand that with the economy as it is, that people would spend that much when they can get a Whirltag set for less than $1,000.00 and it cleans better.
Ross
I have a friend in Palm Springs, Ca where I used to live. I was back there for New Years. He wears his white socks around the house like slippers so they were very soiled. He washed them in his new Frigidaire Affinity in hot water and bleach.
I watched the machine in horror as I did NOT see any water in the tub. All I saw was wet clothes sloshing around.
The socks did NOT come out clean. A front loader with a decent amount of water still uses less than a top loader. Why is the water level left up to the computer instead of us?
And also, front loaders cost more than many top loaders. I got a Maytag/Whirltag less than a year ago for $399.00 and it washes like a champ. I was just in Best Buy where they featured an LG set by the front door at $1,999.00 EACH!!!...add on taxes and delivery and it costs $4,500.00. I do not understand that with the economy as it is, that people would spend that much when they can get a Whirltag set for less than $1,000.00 and it cleans better.
Ross
Consumer Reports rates the Affinity's washing ability only 'Fair'. The 2940 (with the square door), on the other hand, is rated 'Good'. Does the 2940 use a little more water, or maybe the wash portion of the cycle is longer?
My 3.1 cu.ft. Frigidaire uses more water than most newer designs, but the water doesn't come up to the window or anything.
My 3.1 cu.ft. Frigidaire uses more water than most newer designs, but the water doesn't come up to the window or anything.
Ross, I agree completely. We tried one TL (Cabrio) and two FLs (LG and Frigidaire) before we found a washer that performed brilliantly and didn't impose its own rules (for water levels, temperatures etc) over ours. And we had the same experience with whites, with all 3 washers. I think the Cabrio could be made workable, if it allowed a lot more flexibility (someone please explain why the machine insists on emptying/refilling the entire tub, just to change agitation speed during a cycle??), and didn't have some of the newer gingerbread marketing fluff (Automatic Temperature Control, Direct Inject System, 6th Sense etc). Style-wise we loved it, and also loved its free-floating tub and 1000+ RPM spin.
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Hi Jeff. With all that fussiness and digitalized computers, just give me a simple direct drive Kenmore/Whirlpool as far as modern machines go.
Ross
Ross
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well the debate:
I think its safe to say some of us are people who prefer toploaders to frontloaders. With every person comes unique experiences some people who have frontloaders claim that there clothes come out clean and some dont. Some people who have a toploader say that there clothes come out clean and some dont. In the end different strokes for different folks. I prefer toploaders hands down even the HE toploaders however i would try a frontloader on a non bias attempt. I guess it just depends on the user and circumstances and models within a brand will vary upon reliablity performance,and overall value. I must admit not seeing water or what seems as a not visible water level can be a little hard getting around but in the end the proof is in the pudding. what interests me is lower priced frontload units from my understanding and viewing use more water than pricier ones or top of the line models thats interesting to me. In the end as long as we have a choice as to what washer we want its ok like our fellow aw.org member said "leave our washers alone" and may i add our frontloaders too!!!
I think its safe to say some of us are people who prefer toploaders to frontloaders. With every person comes unique experiences some people who have frontloaders claim that there clothes come out clean and some dont. Some people who have a toploader say that there clothes come out clean and some dont. In the end different strokes for different folks. I prefer toploaders hands down even the HE toploaders however i would try a frontloader on a non bias attempt. I guess it just depends on the user and circumstances and models within a brand will vary upon reliablity performance,and overall value. I must admit not seeing water or what seems as a not visible water level can be a little hard getting around but in the end the proof is in the pudding. what interests me is lower priced frontload units from my understanding and viewing use more water than pricier ones or top of the line models thats interesting to me. In the end as long as we have a choice as to what washer we want its ok like our fellow aw.org member said "leave our washers alone" and may i add our frontloaders too!!!
passatdoc
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interesting observation re: Frig 2940
The 2940 is not rated as conserving water as much as the Affinity series. In my area (SoCal), you get a water district and gas company rebate on qualified models. The gas rebate of course because you use less hot water, assume your water heater is gas. The last time I looked, there were two tiers of rebate awards, depending on the water efficiency. The 2940 gets the lower rebate, and the Affinity gets the higher rebate. That would tell me that the 2940 and 2140 use more water than the Affinity series. Which may in turn explain its higher rating vs. Affinity for cleaning ability.
The 2940 is not rated as conserving water as much as the Affinity series. In my area (SoCal), you get a water district and gas company rebate on qualified models. The gas rebate of course because you use less hot water, assume your water heater is gas. The last time I looked, there were two tiers of rebate awards, depending on the water efficiency. The 2940 gets the lower rebate, and the Affinity gets the higher rebate. That would tell me that the 2940 and 2140 use more water than the Affinity series. Which may in turn explain its higher rating vs. Affinity for cleaning ability.
Jim--That would seem to make sense (re water usage in Frigidaire FL'ers), but then you get Duet/Hettie/LG's that use very, very little water with very good-to-excellent cleaning scores. Longer wash cycle, perhaps? There must be additional parameters (beyond simple water usage) at play...
passatdoc
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Agree....differences could even be explained by how the water shoots out of the holes in the drum paddles. Within the Frigidaire lineup, however, it's odd and probably not a coincidence that the least water-conserving models seem to wash the best.
2000 rpm Affinity washer wohooooooooo
My ex work colleagues taught me how to increase the maximum spin speed on Affinity washers.
Both motor and suspension is able to handle 2000 rpm, but I don´t know why Electrolux decided to limit the speed to 1100 rpm.
Tho deactivate the speed limit is easy, but i can´t remember now. I have the instructions at home and i´ll post it later.
It´s something like enter the autotest mode and press a sequence of butons. the "high speed" goes from 900 rpm to 1100 rpm and the "maximum" speed goes from 1100 to 2000 rpm every time these speeds are selected.
yesterday night i washed a huge comforter (heavy cycle, warm water, 2000 rpm) it dried in 20 minutes at the affinity electric dryer.
My ex work colleagues taught me how to increase the maximum spin speed on Affinity washers.
Both motor and suspension is able to handle 2000 rpm, but I don´t know why Electrolux decided to limit the speed to 1100 rpm.
Tho deactivate the speed limit is easy, but i can´t remember now. I have the instructions at home and i´ll post it later.
It´s something like enter the autotest mode and press a sequence of butons. the "high speed" goes from 900 rpm to 1100 rpm and the "maximum" speed goes from 1100 to 2000 rpm every time these speeds are selected.
yesterday night i washed a huge comforter (heavy cycle, warm water, 2000 rpm) it dried in 20 minutes at the affinity electric dryer.
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