Funny... Front Loaders are Junk

[rolls_rapide]

I think the main cause of the mould in the machines is:

cold water washes + overdosed liquid detergent + overdosed fabric conditioner + not leaving the door open at the end of the cycle.

You could save yourselves an awful lot of grief by:
washing in warm to hot water + using a powder detergent + leaving the door ajar at the end.

I stopped using fabric conditioner, due to it leaving the dispenser drawer fusty smelling.

 

[limey]

Age of Machine

To Rolls-rapide.
How old is that machine?
I thought Rolls went belly up in the 1960's or somewhere thereabouts?

 

[pierreandreply4]

me i wash in cold water and NEVER had this problem

 

[hoovermatic]

Rolls twinnies

is there any YouTube footage of these machines?

 

[3beltwesty]

Front Load Washer Mold Investigation

see link :
" If you have a front load washer that develops mold you should not accept this as a normal condition or event.

It isn’t normal.

It exists and happens because of defective design, parts, components and workmanship"

http://www.eppsteiner.com/californi...ns/front-load-washer-investigation/index.html

 

[pierreandreply4]

not only defective parts or poor worksmen ship there is also the fact that sometime the washer can be full of water if there is water in the washer near the component

 

[3beltwesty]

Miele too?

.

http://www.seegerweiss.com/defective-products/miele-front-load-washers/

 

[lavamat_jon]

Mould/mildew =

User error, nothing else.

 

[pierreandreply4]

front loader washers and pets

one thing i need to had is if you have a pet and wash a pet bed in a front loader be sure to check the gasket as pet hair might acumulate there and cause mould or mildew as well as get in the washer 's components i know every 2 months i washe in my duet washer my chocolate lab 's pet bed

 

[haxisfan]

3beltwesty I couldn't stop laughing after clicking on those links! In the first article there's probably some sense in what they're saying but it all gets incredibly absurd when it shows pictures of visible mould growing on very visible and wipeable parts of the porthole O-ring!

Probably I'd be inclined to support this case if the affected components were somehow hidden or impossible to be reached by the user... blimey... the rubber gasket can accidentally get wiped even by your own clean clothes while unloading the washer... how long does it take to give it a swift wipe?

The second article confirms the general misguidance of this type of speculation... and.. of course... whether it's Miele, LG, Electrolux or whatever-have-you, it will suffer the exact same symptoms as one another having been used by people with high levels of inncompetence: these are the people who should stick by washing in the river!

 

[sudsmaster]

When I bought this house the '78 GE Filter-Flo top loader stank.

It smelled like old chewing tobacco.

Eventually I pulled the top panel off, and lo and behold was a thick furry brown layer of mold.

I moved the washer and replaced it with a front loader - a Neptune 7500. The Neptune has NEVER had an off odor, period. And that's after ten years of regular use.

So please spare us the "front loaders are junk" type of pissing contest.

 

[3beltwesty]

Why defend poor designs?

RE "So please spare us the "front loaders are junk" type of p-ssing contest."

It is the earlier mid 1990's ? first Maytag Neptune Frontloader's that won the "contest" of folks saying their laundry room "is like an open sewer" . I heard my employee who was a neighbor too complain about this issue for many many years.

Ie one hears the "I have to hold my nose so as not to puke when walking through the laundry room" comment many hundreds of times over several years, until the old machine was replaced with a TL machine the old one scrapped and crushed. ie an American failure of a design.

One hears how they bought the Maytag based on Maytag's once great reputation of the zillion TV adverts of the "lonely Maytag repairman, where nothing every was wrong", and feel ripped off by a horrible product.

You hear about how the boot was replaced several times, wax motor issues, of how many attempts were made to fix the beast. You hear how your employee/neighbor got paid off to buy a top loader, to get rid of the foul machine. You hear about the class action lawsuits too. The "pay off" was only good for a top loader, they just punted and took back the old FL and it got crushed.

As a user of the old 1947 and later 1976 westy front loaders, it was rather interesting to hear how a new design smelled like an open sewer. It too is interesting too that poor less robust Newer designs are tolerated as being normal, and how now one has to clean ones FL washer.

 

[pierreandreply4]

about maytag neptune washers

before they decided to change the desing for the desing shown in the second pic that i will post in my second post there was lots of recalls about this desing

 

[pierreandreply4]

Second picture

and when they change to this desing witch i bough for my mother summer place there was only a minor recall but no complaints since they change to this desing around 2006 pic also includes matching dryer

 

[roscoe62]

@pierreandreply4

I had the first design Neptune and if I know now what I didn't know then I'd have kept it since now I have a better knowledge of product usage. One thing I did find with my Neptune was when it went into the first spin from the wash cycle it was very short lived, so I'm thinking it may have been the impetus for all the poor rinsing I had experienced compared to the my duet that spins for at least two minutes or possibly more before going into the first rinse.
Live and learn

 

[MrX]

Maybe US machines are gone too extreme with water saving:

Check out this European machine : (Hotpoint/Ariston Aqualtis)

Rinse levels are way higher than a US machine.

 

[MrX]

European Bosch Rinsing

Here's a European Bosch model rinsing :

Again: notice the water level

 

[MrX]

Beko rinse

Here's another European machine, a Beko doing a rinse with loads of water + a power jet!

 

[3beltwesty]

Wow; here in the usa the modern mid 1990's and later FL washers trend is a rinse is really a water shower. One really see's no clothes in water. Maybe this is due to our water police.

 

[pierreandreply4]

i think that also the save water is not only applied in the us but it also applys to canada as well if you look at my duet washer if i wash a load in warm water on the Normal/Casual cycle before the first drain spin my washer adds cold water and if i wash the same load in cold water i save nearly 70% in water use as my duet washer skips adding cold water on the same cycle